Every day I see headlines like this, and everyday I am further reinforced of my decision to reject all animal products and their associated cruelties from my system.
Beef prices have been low recently in my experience, often cheaper than chicken in Aldi.
Its so depressing the food is always a race to the bottom.
Even half hearted ethical consumption isn’t going to win a fight against higher prices, going to be sooner rather than later that Australian beef and US chicken is going to be on our shelves.
Their stance should have been that the higher prices are a reflection of supporting our industry and quality
People would pay them if it was their only option.
Some of the other cheaper supermarkets are managing to support selling only British Beef
Response via our wallets is the only way they’ll ever take note.
I thought we voted for British Jobs?
I guess I missed the ‘British jobs but only with no price increase whatsoever’ caveat.
So let’s recap:
* Rising costs, despite animal produce already being subsidized when our taxes could go elsewhere
* Huge amounts of suffering/exploitation/death of sentient creatures that don’t want to die
* Large contributor to climate change (for example, most of the soy being grown in the Amazon actually being used to feed cattle)
* Local/organic/grass fed farming is actually worse for the environment, so it’s a case of choose your poison: less climate damage/cheaper produce but more animal suffering, or vice versa
* Zoonotic disease
* Nutritionally no reason to eat animal produce (a fact supported by the NHS)
and people call anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers selfish deniers of science, happy to provide further sources if asked
They’ve also ditched their pledge to deliver my fucking shopping by 6pm. It’s 20 minutes late now. Pricks. Edit: by an hour.
I live in hope that the EU starts labelling goods more clearly – a great big fucking flag on the front of the packaging. It would be really handy for Brits who want to maintain the food standards that we as a country designed, contributed to and which were law for so long.
I’ve no faith that the UK’s post-Brexit standards will be higher or even as high.
Doesn’t really matter at the end of the day. Consumers can make their voices known. Sadly they never do, they just complain about the scenario they helped create.
Why is it cheaper to get meat from other countries than it is to just use our own supply? I don’t get it.
>“The higher price for beef is being eroded,” said Shand. “Asda may claim beef is too expensive, but it can’t be produced at a lower price.”
Obviously it *can* as evidently the Irish are managing it.
Good. I want a quality affordable product, not to subsidize other people’s nationalities.
When Brexit happened the Tories were planning very openly **to de-regulate everything** **they could**. Everything from beach cleanliness regulations to food safety regulations. All to open our markets up to less well regulated countries like the US and it’s chlorinated chicken.
The irony is that **we can’t actually de-regulate as the Tories thought because the reality is our biggest trading partner (EU) would refuse to trade with us if we started doing that.**
So for example there’s a lot of laws like the UK GDPR law which we still enforce which makes us a “Safe Country” according to EU regulations. The USA is considered Unsafe. For Canada to get onto the “Safe List” of countries and gain it’s open trading relationship with the EU it had to follow EU trading laws and implement something similar to the GDPR in order for information and data to be shared with Canada. Remember we live in the Information Age – Information/Data are a trading goods nowadays.
Now the UK since ***’re-gaining it’s sovereignty’*** are still heavily guided ***(on the quiet)*** by what the EU Commission decides regarding data safety laws. If the EU Commission suddenly decides that Canada is no longer a Safe Country on it’s data sharing list the UK will likely follow the EU to keep it’s Safe Country Listing because they are still our biggest trading partner. We haven’t broken our ‘shackles from the EU’. All we’ve done is given them all the power and gained theoretical power.
So we’re still being ‘controlled’ from Brussels but we no longer have any control within the EU to affect that control. In the past we could have influenced the Commission and Parliament (which we often did btw). But now we can’t.
# So in effect we’ve
**Increased our Theoretical Sovereign Power.**
But!
**Decreased our Real Power.**
Brexiters are idiots – I’m sorry if that upsets anyone but if you didn’t see this coming and you’re a Brexiter then yes – you’re an idiot.
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Every day I see headlines like this, and everyday I am further reinforced of my decision to reject all animal products and their associated cruelties from my system.
Beef prices have been low recently in my experience, often cheaper than chicken in Aldi.
Its so depressing the food is always a race to the bottom.
Even half hearted ethical consumption isn’t going to win a fight against higher prices, going to be sooner rather than later that Australian beef and US chicken is going to be on our shelves.
Their stance should have been that the higher prices are a reflection of supporting our industry and quality
People would pay them if it was their only option.
Some of the other cheaper supermarkets are managing to support selling only British Beef
Response via our wallets is the only way they’ll ever take note.
I thought we voted for British Jobs?
I guess I missed the ‘British jobs but only with no price increase whatsoever’ caveat.
So let’s recap:
* Rising costs, despite animal produce already being subsidized when our taxes could go elsewhere
* Huge amounts of suffering/exploitation/death of sentient creatures that don’t want to die
* Large contributor to climate change (for example, most of the soy being grown in the Amazon actually being used to feed cattle)
* Local/organic/grass fed farming is actually worse for the environment, so it’s a case of choose your poison: less climate damage/cheaper produce but more animal suffering, or vice versa
* Zoonotic disease
* Nutritionally no reason to eat animal produce (a fact supported by the NHS)
and people call anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers selfish deniers of science, happy to provide further sources if asked
They’ve also ditched their pledge to deliver my fucking shopping by 6pm. It’s 20 minutes late now. Pricks. Edit: by an hour.
I live in hope that the EU starts labelling goods more clearly – a great big fucking flag on the front of the packaging. It would be really handy for Brits who want to maintain the food standards that we as a country designed, contributed to and which were law for so long.
I’ve no faith that the UK’s post-Brexit standards will be higher or even as high.
Doesn’t really matter at the end of the day. Consumers can make their voices known. Sadly they never do, they just complain about the scenario they helped create.
Why is it cheaper to get meat from other countries than it is to just use our own supply? I don’t get it.
>“The higher price for beef is being eroded,” said Shand. “Asda may claim beef is too expensive, but it can’t be produced at a lower price.”
Obviously it *can* as evidently the Irish are managing it.
Good. I want a quality affordable product, not to subsidize other people’s nationalities.
When Brexit happened the Tories were planning very openly **to de-regulate everything** **they could**. Everything from beach cleanliness regulations to food safety regulations. All to open our markets up to less well regulated countries like the US and it’s chlorinated chicken.
The irony is that **we can’t actually de-regulate as the Tories thought because the reality is our biggest trading partner (EU) would refuse to trade with us if we started doing that.**
So for example there’s a lot of laws like the UK GDPR law which we still enforce which makes us a “Safe Country” according to EU regulations. The USA is considered Unsafe. For Canada to get onto the “Safe List” of countries and gain it’s open trading relationship with the EU it had to follow EU trading laws and implement something similar to the GDPR in order for information and data to be shared with Canada. Remember we live in the Information Age – Information/Data are a trading goods nowadays.
Now the UK since ***’re-gaining it’s sovereignty’*** are still heavily guided ***(on the quiet)*** by what the EU Commission decides regarding data safety laws. If the EU Commission suddenly decides that Canada is no longer a Safe Country on it’s data sharing list the UK will likely follow the EU to keep it’s Safe Country Listing because they are still our biggest trading partner. We haven’t broken our ‘shackles from the EU’. All we’ve done is given them all the power and gained theoretical power.
So we’re still being ‘controlled’ from Brussels but we no longer have any control within the EU to affect that control. In the past we could have influenced the Commission and Parliament (which we often did btw). But now we can’t.
# So in effect we’ve
**Increased our Theoretical Sovereign Power.**
But!
**Decreased our Real Power.**
Brexiters are idiots – I’m sorry if that upsets anyone but if you didn’t see this coming and you’re a Brexiter then yes – you’re an idiot.