If refugee’s who claimed asylum here for safety reasons goes on holiday to the very country they are fleeing from to visit family or friends, their visa should be revoked as a recent finding found that 79% of them go home once a year.
noo. we need slaves to work for under nmw where natives argue about it, and freedom to weaponise poverty against the working class. yer jus racist if you say otherwise!
I look forward to rUK saying how stupid these racist bigots are.
I’m surprised 1 in 10 constituencies in England and Wales don’t want to cut immigration levels.
You can repress common sense forever. No borders, no identity, no nation.
Meanwhile the amount of job vacancies amount to just under a million.
I wonder if there was some kind of labor pool we could utilize to fill those jobs… hnnghhhh.
Let’s just do what they’re doing in the states and make kids go to work!
Those damn immigrants underfunding the NHS, schools and police!
I bet it was them who allowed dumping of sewage into our rivers as well!
Immigrants haven’t caused the ongoing housing crises
Most problems affecting our lives are not caused by immigration… why is there so much focus?
“support for looser migration controls and higher numbers was concentrated in cities such as London, Birmingham, Manchester, Cardiff and Edinburgh,”
I mean just those named cities are about a third of the UK population. So at least a third of the country is potentially supportive.
Hello right wing bots! Nice to see you again (it’s not nice please go away)
Throughout history immigration has ALWAYS been used as a tactic to rile hatred within a population. Immigrants aren’t the cause of most of the issues we face as a country. In fact, because our education system in poorer areas has been so bad for decades we desperately NEED immigration for professions such as doctors and nurses. We need to focus on the aspects that are actually damaging our society.
Ask yourself , why do you actually care . Deep down, what’s the issue going on in that little noggin that makes your biggest worry immigration?
The Tories solution to cut migration was to make the country so shit no one wants to come here. Hasn’t worked yet, most of the people who live here want to go live somewhere else which is ever so slightly ironic.
Yeah it’s almost as if the government and their pet newspapers shout loudly enough about something it becomes a ‘key issue’ for voters and creates an effective smokescreen for all the incompetent chucklefuckery that goes on in Westminster. Any time the electorate start noticing that Brexit was a con, the NHS is on its knees, the roads are crumbing, the railways are dying and public services are cut to the bone all you need to do is jump up on TV and yell “BOAT PEOPLE! RWANDA! YOUNG ALBANIAN MEN!” as loud as humanly possible and the sheep will fall back in line.
Well if we cut immigration we better be gearing up for a robotics revolution cuz the uncomfortable truth is that ppl don’t wanna do the work to support the economy
They always say that, but then if you ask “where will care workers come from?” they say “foreigners”.
With an aging population, low birth rates and the need to constantly grow the economy in order to reduce debt relative to GDP….. how do people expect to achieve this? Option one is through immigration. Option two is to improve productivity and therefore GDP per capita. The problem with the latter is that involves long term investment in educating the workforce and automation. This country unfortunately is terrible at investing for the long term benefit of the country and residents rather than short term profit so immigration it is.
There is nothing wrong with immigration but the refugee status has been exploited to the max.
They would be foolish not to exploit this although it will prevent actual refugees from finding a new home. Also, I am an immigrant so maybe I should claim refugee status instead of paying taxes?
How can the British public fall for this every damned time?
One day we will have to realise that foreigners are not the cause of all of our problems. Nothing will get better until we realise that.
STOP IMMIGRATION*
*unless me or a relative is dying and need the help of the multitude of immigrants in the NHS
**unless you provide me with food at my local Indian
***unless you don’t claim benefits (which you can’t straight away anyway)
****I want to retain the right to move abroad when I’m older, and complain no one speaks English and still vote in a country I’ve not lived in for years.
Amazing how this topic can be weaponised by the media when 100 more daily life impacting things are going on.
Scapegoat topic to deflect from things like sending over 2 billion to Ukraine for example.
Imagine not wanting every Tom, dick & Harry allowed in. Madness
The torygraph has been making shit up these days. First it was that ridiculous interpretation of the yougov poll, now this. It’s horseshit
As a recent immigrant to the UK this might be slightly controversial but I think it’s not the quantity of immigrants that are the problem, but the quality. The £38,700 is far too low a threshold to live comfortably and not be a burden on existing public services. Raise to £70k or £80k and exempt NHS staff from this threshold. A high number would reduce a vast number of immigrants and just keep the ones that are paying into public coffers in larger amounts.
Bit of a disingenuous reporting though when they were asked ‘do you want immigration to reduce, or to increase and have less controls on it?’ rather than being asked what they thought of immigration generally in isolation.
Most people in most areas of any country are not going to say they want *more* new people and change in their local area. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they are completely against immigration altogether, or even that it is the top priority that will influence their vote as this headline implies.
This is the case in Canada, Australia, Europe, even Ireland’s creeping that way recently.
In recent years, likely due to economic pressure, governments have significantly raised intake numbers while (in some cases) promising the opposite.
The backlash will become hard to avoid soon, yet the only alternative (increasing fertility) is a tricky one.
This stat is nonsense. They surveyed 14,000 people and found at least one person mentioning immigration. They’re twisting that into something superficially meaningful. All it means is that one person in 90% of surveyed constituencies (so maybe 600/14,000) mentioned immigration. That’s not news nor is it newsworthy.
This poll was funded by the right wing of the Tory party (Lord Frost) who is trying to pull Sunak even further right wing. Public sentiment currently rates this current Tory party as right wing as UKIP in 2016. How can they be further right wing and still be considered a mainstream party?
“Please cut them”
*votes for a party that supports continuing immigration*
“Why aren’t you cutting them?”
Just goes to show how much of public opinion is manufactured. I refuse to believe that immigration is a genuine problem in virtually every community in the country. We know immigration tends to be concentrated in particular areas, so it makes no sense for the worry about it be this widespread.
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If refugee’s who claimed asylum here for safety reasons goes on holiday to the very country they are fleeing from to visit family or friends, their visa should be revoked as a recent finding found that 79% of them go home once a year.
noo. we need slaves to work for under nmw where natives argue about it, and freedom to weaponise poverty against the working class. yer jus racist if you say otherwise!
I look forward to rUK saying how stupid these racist bigots are.
I’m surprised 1 in 10 constituencies in England and Wales don’t want to cut immigration levels.
You can repress common sense forever. No borders, no identity, no nation.
Meanwhile the amount of job vacancies amount to just under a million.
I wonder if there was some kind of labor pool we could utilize to fill those jobs… hnnghhhh.
Let’s just do what they’re doing in the states and make kids go to work!
Those damn immigrants underfunding the NHS, schools and police!
I bet it was them who allowed dumping of sewage into our rivers as well!
Immigrants haven’t caused the ongoing housing crises
Immigrants don’t lower the national minimum wage
Immigrants didn’t cause the financial crashes
Immigrants didn’t increase mortgage rates
Immigrants aren’t underfunding the NHS
Immigrants aren’t underfunding councils
Immigrants aren’t reducing refuse collection rates
Immigrants aren’t increasing our fuel bills
Immigrants aren’t raising supermarket prices
Immigrants are not increasing the cost of living
Immigrants aren’t taking my job
Most problems affecting our lives are not caused by immigration… why is there so much focus?
“support for looser migration controls and higher numbers was concentrated in cities such as London, Birmingham, Manchester, Cardiff and Edinburgh,”
I mean just those named cities are about a third of the UK population. So at least a third of the country is potentially supportive.
Hello right wing bots! Nice to see you again (it’s not nice please go away)
Throughout history immigration has ALWAYS been used as a tactic to rile hatred within a population. Immigrants aren’t the cause of most of the issues we face as a country. In fact, because our education system in poorer areas has been so bad for decades we desperately NEED immigration for professions such as doctors and nurses. We need to focus on the aspects that are actually damaging our society.
Ask yourself , why do you actually care . Deep down, what’s the issue going on in that little noggin that makes your biggest worry immigration?
The Tories solution to cut migration was to make the country so shit no one wants to come here. Hasn’t worked yet, most of the people who live here want to go live somewhere else which is ever so slightly ironic.
Yeah it’s almost as if the government and their pet newspapers shout loudly enough about something it becomes a ‘key issue’ for voters and creates an effective smokescreen for all the incompetent chucklefuckery that goes on in Westminster. Any time the electorate start noticing that Brexit was a con, the NHS is on its knees, the roads are crumbing, the railways are dying and public services are cut to the bone all you need to do is jump up on TV and yell “BOAT PEOPLE! RWANDA! YOUNG ALBANIAN MEN!” as loud as humanly possible and the sheep will fall back in line.
Well if we cut immigration we better be gearing up for a robotics revolution cuz the uncomfortable truth is that ppl don’t wanna do the work to support the economy
They always say that, but then if you ask “where will care workers come from?” they say “foreigners”.
With an aging population, low birth rates and the need to constantly grow the economy in order to reduce debt relative to GDP….. how do people expect to achieve this? Option one is through immigration. Option two is to improve productivity and therefore GDP per capita. The problem with the latter is that involves long term investment in educating the workforce and automation. This country unfortunately is terrible at investing for the long term benefit of the country and residents rather than short term profit so immigration it is.
There is nothing wrong with immigration but the refugee status has been exploited to the max.
They would be foolish not to exploit this although it will prevent actual refugees from finding a new home. Also, I am an immigrant so maybe I should claim refugee status instead of paying taxes?
How can the British public fall for this every damned time?
One day we will have to realise that foreigners are not the cause of all of our problems. Nothing will get better until we realise that.
STOP IMMIGRATION*
*unless me or a relative is dying and need the help of the multitude of immigrants in the NHS
**unless you provide me with food at my local Indian
***unless you don’t claim benefits (which you can’t straight away anyway)
****I want to retain the right to move abroad when I’m older, and complain no one speaks English and still vote in a country I’ve not lived in for years.
Amazing how this topic can be weaponised by the media when 100 more daily life impacting things are going on.
Scapegoat topic to deflect from things like sending over 2 billion to Ukraine for example.
Imagine not wanting every Tom, dick & Harry allowed in. Madness
The torygraph has been making shit up these days. First it was that ridiculous interpretation of the yougov poll, now this. It’s horseshit
As a recent immigrant to the UK this might be slightly controversial but I think it’s not the quantity of immigrants that are the problem, but the quality. The £38,700 is far too low a threshold to live comfortably and not be a burden on existing public services. Raise to £70k or £80k and exempt NHS staff from this threshold. A high number would reduce a vast number of immigrants and just keep the ones that are paying into public coffers in larger amounts.
Bit of a disingenuous reporting though when they were asked ‘do you want immigration to reduce, or to increase and have less controls on it?’ rather than being asked what they thought of immigration generally in isolation.
Most people in most areas of any country are not going to say they want *more* new people and change in their local area. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they are completely against immigration altogether, or even that it is the top priority that will influence their vote as this headline implies.
This is the case in Canada, Australia, Europe, even Ireland’s creeping that way recently.
In recent years, likely due to economic pressure, governments have significantly raised intake numbers while (in some cases) promising the opposite.
The backlash will become hard to avoid soon, yet the only alternative (increasing fertility) is a tricky one.
This stat is nonsense. They surveyed 14,000 people and found at least one person mentioning immigration. They’re twisting that into something superficially meaningful. All it means is that one person in 90% of surveyed constituencies (so maybe 600/14,000) mentioned immigration. That’s not news nor is it newsworthy.
This poll was funded by the right wing of the Tory party (Lord Frost) who is trying to pull Sunak even further right wing. Public sentiment currently rates this current Tory party as right wing as UKIP in 2016. How can they be further right wing and still be considered a mainstream party?
“Please cut them”
*votes for a party that supports continuing immigration*
“Why aren’t you cutting them?”
Just goes to show how much of public opinion is manufactured. I refuse to believe that immigration is a genuine problem in virtually every community in the country. We know immigration tends to be concentrated in particular areas, so it makes no sense for the worry about it be this widespread.