>For many, growth is a longer-term solution, so what about other more immediate choices, such as taxing people’s wealth? I turned back to Blair, reading this quote: “It’s not a burning ambition for me to make sure that David Beckham earns less money.” Did he disagree with that?
>“No,” Starmer responded without hesitation about Beckham or a similarly rich footballer today. “I don’t disagree with that.”
>But if you are prime minister, I went on, would you want to take more money from the super-rich (non-doms aside) and redistribute it to the poorest? Again, a “no”, without hesitation. “That isn’t how I want to grow the economy.”
They don’t need to be taxed more, but actually taxed.
We’re certainly building up a long list of things labour won’t do. Is it the intention that the document them all in a sort of anti prospectus?
The guy gets elected as Labour leader with promises of taxing oil and gas companies and their over excessive profiteering, power companies doing the same, the greed of the 1% who doubled their yield in the last year alone.
He then sits and decides he has to pander to the pressure the press and media put Corbyns party through and go over the top in ” cleaning house.”” This included ousting long-standing Labour members who had the slightest whiff of old Labour socialism about them.
Added to this, the guy goes to war on the broad brush slander of those accused of anti semitism. This included all criticism of Israel to the extent that anyone in his party or cabinet was threatened with dismissal or demotion for daring to call for a ceasefire during a genocidal blood bath.
He then goes to Scotland to bang the table in the branch office HQ to demand they come to heel and stop thinking for themselves. From now on him and the Dame do the thinking.
And on top of it all, he sees the tory vote collapse and decides its them that he needs to pander policy to. He abandons all promises of wealth taxation and gives wink and mod approval to every tory policy from Rwandan deportation, pay rise awards, refuses to backtrack anti strike legislation, bows to Murdoch for his approval and all but wears a blue rosette.
But then again, none of this matters to the ” Labour ” supporters on this sub who only care about who’s best placed to see the Jack dominant again over Scotland.
It’s important to see the tories flung out of NO.10 for all our sakes, but whod a thought it meant replacing them with new blood refreshed and competence selling conservatism anyway ?
Roll up folks, get yer tartan paint. Open the lid, see it as red, but watch it spread blue on yer walls.
Walks like a Tory, talks like a Tory, taxes like a Tory 😂😂😂
Labour really should change their name to Capital. It’s false advertising at this point and has been since at least 1997.
Just let the landlords and stockowners do it in reverse, thanks!
Taxation is only a very small part of the problem, although it is easy to point at as it is one of the mechanisms the state uses to ‘redistribute wealth’. The biggest problem is that this pool of wealth has been frittered away over the last few decades/half century. The state itself is dirt poor and running out of options to provide even basic services that we’ve come to expect.
Voting is no longer a means to resolution, in fact I doubt it has been in the UK for a long time. So frankly it doesn’t matter what Starmer has to say, all he is, is an extension of the same trap that we’ve fallen for time and time again.
The balance needs to be right, taxing the rich is all good until they leave and take their tax with them, I am not saying the balance is correct but just that it needs to be handled carefully to not end up with less money aka France when they did the same thing.
The concentration should be on growth to help grow the economy, get people better jobs that pays better to increase the tax take
Labour being advocates of, thoroughly debunked, trickle down economics now?
Next he’ll be boasting about diverting money out of impoverished inner cities to give to wealthy areas like his mate Sunak.
This man is single handedly going to put the Tories back in power for the next 13 years at this rate. I give him 2 years before a vote of no confidence forces a general election.
Mr “Im slightly more competent than the tories” but fundamentally unwilling to put in anywhere near the money needed to unfuck this country, setting himself up perfectly for the Daily Heil and the Scum to use him as a perfect example of how “loony lefties” ruined the country and how we need “strong far right wing leaders” to lead us.
Honestly all I can hope for at this point is that he’s just being as bland and Tory as possible so he can win the election by being palpable to Tory voters, then he actually turns around and introduces some actual policy. The alternative I don’t even want to think about, I don’t think this country could survive another decade of status quo stagnation.
So what is he going to do? He keeps saying about the things he won’t do.
What is the point of Labour?
Red Tory. Of course he won’t, he has to look after his cronies. It’s their turn to feed from the trough.
Besides, it’s irrelevant to Scotland what this muppet decides to do. Tax is a devolved power in Scotland is it not, ScotGov charges more tax so we can get prescriptions without being charged.
It would be so satisfying to be able to say ‘I told you so’ about Kier if it weren’t for the fact his fanboys won’t listen.
Meet the new boss the same as the old boss.
* The Who – “Won’t get fooled again”
Nah, we need to start stripping assets from tax dodgers.
We’re not getting the money back from these big companies; time to take their toys.
We know. The Red Tories protect their Blue Tory pals. The Scottish Electorate are not fools and will not fall for these lies.
That’s cause he’s a Tory cunt in disguise.
Most people focus on the wrong end of taxes, what if everyone already pays more than enough but the distribution of the money is bad…
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Will Yousaf tax the super rich more to redistribute to the poorest?
Starmer is in Thatcherite language a “wet tory”. He will get elected not because he espouses this or that, but because the Tory Party is in terminal self-destruct mode, and the SNP is weak. So he gets elected because “no alternative” (© Angela Merkel, 2015). Of course there is an alternative, there is ALWAYS an alternative, and this will make his premiership one of the most difficult in British history. He has excluded Momentum and all its valid issues – *that will no’ go unrequited*.
Also, the sky is blue, water is wet etc
The National, like others, picking up on some of coverage [this article’s generated](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/13/i-talked-to-keir-starmer-for-three-months-this-is-what-i-learned). One part:
>For many, growth is a longer-term solution, so what about other more immediate choices, such as taxing people’s wealth? I turned back to Blair, reading this quote: “It’s not a burning ambition for me to make sure that David Beckham earns less money.” Did he disagree with that?
>“No,” Starmer responded without hesitation about Beckham or a similarly rich footballer today. “I don’t disagree with that.”
>But if you are prime minister, I went on, would you want to take more money from the super-rich (non-doms aside) and redistribute it to the poorest? Again, a “no”, without hesitation. “That isn’t how I want to grow the economy.”
Blair inherited the best economic situation any Labour government ever did. Starmer’s inheriting (gestures) this. At once Labour’s leadership say that the Tories have messed up the UK’s public services and growth and [repeatedly commits to implementing Tory spending plans](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/no-more-tax-and-spend-labours-fiscal-plans-revealed-f7x7f5n5s).
Either they don’t see the connection, or don’t care to, but either way we’re facing rising costs for public services and a prospective Labour government that won’t increase funding and whose ministers argue that [crises in public services are ‘excuses’.](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/dec/10/wes-streeting-nhs-uses-winter-crisis-excuse-more-money-labour)
They don’t need to be taxed more, but actually taxed.
We’re certainly building up a long list of things labour won’t do. Is it the intention that the document them all in a sort of anti prospectus?
The guy gets elected as Labour leader with promises of taxing oil and gas companies and their over excessive profiteering, power companies doing the same, the greed of the 1% who doubled their yield in the last year alone.
He then sits and decides he has to pander to the pressure the press and media put Corbyns party through and go over the top in ” cleaning house.”” This included ousting long-standing Labour members who had the slightest whiff of old Labour socialism about them.
Added to this, the guy goes to war on the broad brush slander of those accused of anti semitism. This included all criticism of Israel to the extent that anyone in his party or cabinet was threatened with dismissal or demotion for daring to call for a ceasefire during a genocidal blood bath.
He then goes to Scotland to bang the table in the branch office HQ to demand they come to heel and stop thinking for themselves. From now on him and the Dame do the thinking.
And on top of it all, he sees the tory vote collapse and decides its them that he needs to pander policy to. He abandons all promises of wealth taxation and gives wink and mod approval to every tory policy from Rwandan deportation, pay rise awards, refuses to backtrack anti strike legislation, bows to Murdoch for his approval and all but wears a blue rosette.
But then again, none of this matters to the ” Labour ” supporters on this sub who only care about who’s best placed to see the Jack dominant again over Scotland.
It’s important to see the tories flung out of NO.10 for all our sakes, but whod a thought it meant replacing them with new blood refreshed and competence selling conservatism anyway ?
Roll up folks, get yer tartan paint. Open the lid, see it as red, but watch it spread blue on yer walls.
Walks like a Tory, talks like a Tory, taxes like a Tory 😂😂😂
Labour really should change their name to Capital. It’s false advertising at this point and has been since at least 1997.
Just let the landlords and stockowners do it in reverse, thanks!
Taxation is only a very small part of the problem, although it is easy to point at as it is one of the mechanisms the state uses to ‘redistribute wealth’. The biggest problem is that this pool of wealth has been frittered away over the last few decades/half century. The state itself is dirt poor and running out of options to provide even basic services that we’ve come to expect.
Voting is no longer a means to resolution, in fact I doubt it has been in the UK for a long time. So frankly it doesn’t matter what Starmer has to say, all he is, is an extension of the same trap that we’ve fallen for time and time again.
The balance needs to be right, taxing the rich is all good until they leave and take their tax with them, I am not saying the balance is correct but just that it needs to be handled carefully to not end up with less money aka France when they did the same thing.
The concentration should be on growth to help grow the economy, get people better jobs that pays better to increase the tax take
Labour being advocates of, thoroughly debunked, trickle down economics now?
Next he’ll be boasting about diverting money out of impoverished inner cities to give to wealthy areas like his mate Sunak.
This man is single handedly going to put the Tories back in power for the next 13 years at this rate. I give him 2 years before a vote of no confidence forces a general election.
Mr “Im slightly more competent than the tories” but fundamentally unwilling to put in anywhere near the money needed to unfuck this country, setting himself up perfectly for the Daily Heil and the Scum to use him as a perfect example of how “loony lefties” ruined the country and how we need “strong far right wing leaders” to lead us.
Honestly all I can hope for at this point is that he’s just being as bland and Tory as possible so he can win the election by being palpable to Tory voters, then he actually turns around and introduces some actual policy. The alternative I don’t even want to think about, I don’t think this country could survive another decade of status quo stagnation.
So what is he going to do? He keeps saying about the things he won’t do.
What is the point of Labour?
Red Tory. Of course he won’t, he has to look after his cronies. It’s their turn to feed from the trough.
Besides, it’s irrelevant to Scotland what this muppet decides to do. Tax is a devolved power in Scotland is it not, ScotGov charges more tax so we can get prescriptions without being charged.
It would be so satisfying to be able to say ‘I told you so’ about Kier if it weren’t for the fact his fanboys won’t listen.
Meet the new boss the same as the old boss.
* The Who – “Won’t get fooled again”
Nah, we need to start stripping assets from tax dodgers.
We’re not getting the money back from these big companies; time to take their toys.
We know. The Red Tories protect their Blue Tory pals. The Scottish Electorate are not fools and will not fall for these lies.
That’s cause he’s a Tory cunt in disguise.
Most people focus on the wrong end of taxes, what if everyone already pays more than enough but the distribution of the money is bad…