I find the low score for Ireland suprising, given how many sweets and crisps we consume. Is it a genetic factor, or sheer luck?
Huge variance interesting that some Mediterranean population is so high given the diet is always lauded for it’s long live/health aspects of low carbs/bad fats.
Obviously Germany is apple strudel hell
Fuck you denmark
Not sure if that’s accurate. Think it’s closer to double that rate.
Surely variance has to do with our young population?
Diabeetus
Given that ireland had such a high cancer rate I wouldn’t be too impressed about this data, even if it is accurate
Most of these MapPorn maps are wrong in my experience. People should not take random internet crap as being accurate.
It’s interesting alright – if you feed people all around the world the exact same diet, it’s usually the Irishman who’s last to get diabetes. One explanation, however credible, which I heard once was that due to the fact that ancestral Irish people were largely cattle herders, we came to tolerate diets which were disproportionately heavy in beef and dairy – to the extent which beef and dairy are related with diabetes though is a different question
Why on earth are type 1 and type 2 categorised together? One is genetic, one is a choice. Yeah yeah yeah, there’s loads of factors blah blah, but you mainline biscuits for breakfast, you’re getting type 2.
This mangling of the two together means type 1 will never ever ever get the research money it needs. I know it’s not a scientific map or anything, but it’s indicative or how the two are lumped together
Doesn’t specify type 1 or type 2? Two very different conditions
Great, will someone tell my pancreas to stop acting the maggot
HSE estimates it at 6.2%.
I’m doing my bit to bring up the national average.
Diagnosed in 2018 Type 2 in the house! Woop woop!
Also, maybe Ireland has more undiagnosed diabetics?
Lowest % but I still manage to get T1 without any history of it in my family.
I’m surprised at this given our obesity rates are so high
F U C K. Y O U. D E N M A R K.
Lowest? There was an rte documentary saying we were one of the highest. Maybe we’re only high in type one and very low in type 2
When’s the last time most people here have had blood work done? I think this is an issue of testing rather than something to be proud of. Likely a lot of undiagnosed people.
You’d think tubby UK would be higher.
These data are completely meaningless. They’ve included type 1 and type 2 diabetes which have different causes and different treatments. You cannot derive anything related to health/fitness/diet/genetics/etc. from this map.
It was somewhere around 5% in 2007, cannot find the source but I used it as a reference during my degree, I’d argue it’s probably higher now, likely somewhere between 6-8% in Ireland. UK is definitely higher, around 8% I believe although it’s probably higher
You’ll never dia-beat the Irish
I feel like lumping both T1 and T2 into the same map defeats the whole purpose of the map. Type 1 is a genetic, autoimmune disease that has no cure. Type 2 is caused by poor diet and can be reversible with improvement to diet and exercise.
I’m T1D and I’d be curious to see if there’s a particular country where it’s more concentrated.
🇹🇷: skibidi dom dom yes yes yes
Ireland finally winning at something
I would like to specify diabetes doesn’t always come from bad lifestyle, Type 1 happens and there isn’t anything you can do about it
I thought we were the fattest proper country in the world tho?
I dont wanna say its accurate, but tbh I dont know anyone with diabetes, except one person who was born with it. Now obesity, is a different story.
How is ours so low?
And I have 3 people in me family with diabeties (2 type 1 as well). I’ll let them know the good news.
Nonsense numbers
[HSE](https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/cspd/ncps/diabetes/#:~:text=In%20Ireland%20it%20is%20estimated,or%20secondary%20causes%20of%20diabetes.)
>”In Ireland it is estimated that there are 190,000 (5.6%) of the Irish population with diabetes (Institute of Public Health in Ireland, 2007). Approximately 30,000 (15%) of these people do not have Type 2 diabetes, but either have Type 1 diabetes, or genetic or secondary causes of diabetes. The remaining 160,000 (85%) patients have Type 2 diabetes. A significant proportion of these patients (20-30%) remain undiagnosed. It is expected that the number of people with Type 2 diabetes will increase by 60% over the next 10-15 years.”
>”Type 2 diabetes and Pre-diabetes
The Irish Longitudinal Study on Ageing (TILDA) 2015 showed that 10% of adults aged 50 and over in Ireland, have Type 2 diabetes rising to 16% in those aged 80 and over. This study further revealed that one in ten people with diabetes in this population are undiagnosed. A further 5.5% of the older population have pre-diabetes which puts them at an increased risk of developing Type 2 diabetes in the future.”
“OECD and Others” is not a source and the website listed gives zero extra information. Daily lesson in not believing every shiny graphic on reddit.
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I find the low score for Ireland suprising, given how many sweets and crisps we consume. Is it a genetic factor, or sheer luck?
Huge variance interesting that some Mediterranean population is so high given the diet is always lauded for it’s long live/health aspects of low carbs/bad fats.
Obviously Germany is apple strudel hell
Fuck you denmark
Not sure if that’s accurate. Think it’s closer to double that rate.
Surely variance has to do with our young population?
Diabeetus
Given that ireland had such a high cancer rate I wouldn’t be too impressed about this data, even if it is accurate
Most of these MapPorn maps are wrong in my experience. People should not take random internet crap as being accurate.
It’s interesting alright – if you feed people all around the world the exact same diet, it’s usually the Irishman who’s last to get diabetes. One explanation, however credible, which I heard once was that due to the fact that ancestral Irish people were largely cattle herders, we came to tolerate diets which were disproportionately heavy in beef and dairy – to the extent which beef and dairy are related with diabetes though is a different question
Why on earth are type 1 and type 2 categorised together? One is genetic, one is a choice. Yeah yeah yeah, there’s loads of factors blah blah, but you mainline biscuits for breakfast, you’re getting type 2.
This mangling of the two together means type 1 will never ever ever get the research money it needs. I know it’s not a scientific map or anything, but it’s indicative or how the two are lumped together
Doesn’t specify type 1 or type 2? Two very different conditions
Great, will someone tell my pancreas to stop acting the maggot
HSE estimates it at 6.2%.
I’m doing my bit to bring up the national average.
Diagnosed in 2018 Type 2 in the house! Woop woop!
Also, maybe Ireland has more undiagnosed diabetics?
Lowest % but I still manage to get T1 without any history of it in my family.
I’m surprised at this given our obesity rates are so high
F U C K. Y O U. D E N M A R K.
Lowest? There was an rte documentary saying we were one of the highest. Maybe we’re only high in type one and very low in type 2
When’s the last time most people here have had blood work done? I think this is an issue of testing rather than something to be proud of. Likely a lot of undiagnosed people.
You’d think tubby UK would be higher.
These data are completely meaningless. They’ve included type 1 and type 2 diabetes which have different causes and different treatments. You cannot derive anything related to health/fitness/diet/genetics/etc. from this map.
It was somewhere around 5% in 2007, cannot find the source but I used it as a reference during my degree, I’d argue it’s probably higher now, likely somewhere between 6-8% in Ireland. UK is definitely higher, around 8% I believe although it’s probably higher
You’ll never dia-beat the Irish
I feel like lumping both T1 and T2 into the same map defeats the whole purpose of the map. Type 1 is a genetic, autoimmune disease that has no cure. Type 2 is caused by poor diet and can be reversible with improvement to diet and exercise.
I’m T1D and I’d be curious to see if there’s a particular country where it’s more concentrated.
🇹🇷: skibidi dom dom yes yes yes
Ireland finally winning at something
I would like to specify diabetes doesn’t always come from bad lifestyle, Type 1 happens and there isn’t anything you can do about it
I thought we were the fattest proper country in the world tho?
I dont wanna say its accurate, but tbh I dont know anyone with diabetes, except one person who was born with it. Now obesity, is a different story.
How is ours so low?
And I have 3 people in me family with diabeties (2 type 1 as well). I’ll let them know the good news.
Nonsense numbers
[HSE](https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/cspd/ncps/diabetes/#:~:text=In%20Ireland%20it%20is%20estimated,or%20secondary%20causes%20of%20diabetes.)
>”In Ireland it is estimated that there are 190,000 (5.6%) of the Irish population with diabetes (Institute of Public Health in Ireland, 2007). Approximately 30,000 (15%) of these people do not have Type 2 diabetes, but either have Type 1 diabetes, or genetic or secondary causes of diabetes. The remaining 160,000 (85%) patients have Type 2 diabetes. A significant proportion of these patients (20-30%) remain undiagnosed. It is expected that the number of people with Type 2 diabetes will increase by 60% over the next 10-15 years.”
[Diabetes Ireland](https://www.diabetes.ie/about-us/diabetes-in-ireland/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20most%20recent,diabetes%20in%20Ireland%20in%202022.)
>”Type 1 diabetes in adults
According to the study on epidemiology of type 1 diabetes in Ireland utilizing prescription database, there were 20,081 prevalent cases of type 1 diabetes in 2016 in Ireland, with 17,053 adults over 18.”
>”Type 2 diabetes and Pre-diabetes
The Irish Longitudinal Study on Ageing (TILDA) 2015 showed that 10% of adults aged 50 and over in Ireland, have Type 2 diabetes rising to 16% in those aged 80 and over. This study further revealed that one in ten people with diabetes in this population are undiagnosed. A further 5.5% of the older population have pre-diabetes which puts them at an increased risk of developing Type 2 diabetes in the future.”
“OECD and Others” is not a source and the website listed gives zero extra information. Daily lesson in not believing every shiny graphic on reddit.