how much kilo warhead does these fpv drones carry ?
the blast is very big compared to its size
Isnt that a warcrime?
Hands up with no weapon…Thats literally surrendering. So we have videos where this sub says “look POWs being shot” and no proof they are POW and then here we can clearly see whats happening and this same community celebrating killing a surrendering solider.
Edit 4: r/Ukraine [post where in they describe how to surrender to a drone and one of the top comments mentions how people said you cant surrender](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraina/s/2BqKkpT5hm)
Edit 5: [The only video of a Russian running. You know, the only one people talk about and it shows a dude surrendering while pointing to his buddy running back to the trench, still armed. So far no one seems to be able to produce a video showing a hands up Russian bailing on a surrender. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/lyvUJbotbr)
Thats fucked up. How long till some super power starts making hives of drones controlled by AI, just zerging around in the battlefield identifying targets and killing them automatically directed by the AI?
Imagine: a truck with 3 or 4 hives in its bed, each hive with 50 or 70 FPV drones, releasing them near the front. Thats easily 300 kills.
Pretty difficult to remote capture someone in no man’s land. Yes, we seen few successful drone surrenders, but this short clip leaves lots up to interpretation. Sometimes it’s simply too late to surrender, if the bullet has already been fired.
Turned into dust…
Wars get more cowardly by the day.
It has nothing to do wether you can facillitate the capture or not when deciding if it is a warcrime. Surrendering and not offering resistance grants you protection, period. If you cant take them prisoner you let them off. Very common to take prisoners in battle without logistics support, you cant simply kill them because if it. They could have tried to follow him to ukr lines, or simply let him walk off without a weapon. Simple. Any argument that then he can fight another day is irrelevant – he surrendered under the circumstances and is granted protection by the laws of war.
This is disgusting
From A to B in less than a second….
It doesn’t look like he try to surrender, more like he try to catch that drone. Anyway….
The age of AI driven drone swarms targeting people is nearly upon us. I know throughout all of history the future can seem pretty dark. But I really feel like we’re on the brink of a total catastrophe – climate change, AI replacing masses of jobs, including killing, the collapse of what’s left of western democracy, the collapse of public services that have been privatised, the continued transfer of wealth to the already absurdly wealthy, food scarcity will shortly be upon us as supply chains begin to collapse/alongside people genuinely being unable to afford food, rising bills to line already wealthy pockets, the list goes on.
I cannot see a bright future at all.
You can’t surrender by email.
Thats fucked up. But, he would have done the same. Rest in peace now
Maybe the drone operator had some friends who tried to surrender to the russians…and remembered what they did. Or it was just too late to call it off.
F Putin
Yeah, the rules of war will have to be rewritten once fully AI powered drone warfare is upon us.
Until then, not feeling sorry for Ivan. He made his choice.
**”Russian soldier ‘tries to’ surrender to a Ukrainian FPV at the last moment”**
That’s some ugly stuff
Isn’t it a war crime?
surrendering isn’t just a technicality where you throw your hands up and no one is allowed to target you, especially when the logistics for taking captives isn’t there. you also cant pick and choose when and when not to surrender as intent is important. if you gun down 5 men, only to surrender to a tank, your surrender as you might imagine is tenuous at best. y
Drones count as either aircraft or missiles, neither of which can take prisoners, and holding them or their operator accountable for targeting an enemy on the battlefield would set an ass backwards precedent which would disproportionaly disadvantage anyone who follows the geneva conventions that it would make a further mockery of the rules of wartime conduct.
Ultimately, soldiers who surrender are ultimately the ones who have to take the iniative. if a russian soldier truly wished to surrender he should walk in a straight line to the ukrainian positions, waving a white flag if possible whilst unarmed, and then you’d have an argument that he was surrendering and no longer a combatant.
a russian soldier huddling in a crater is still a soldier, armed and a present danger to ukrainian soldiers.
Is killing a surrendering enemy combatant a war crime? Wars need to end.
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how much kilo warhead does these fpv drones carry ?
the blast is very big compared to its size
Isnt that a warcrime?
Hands up with no weapon…Thats literally surrendering. So we have videos where this sub says “look POWs being shot” and no proof they are POW and then here we can clearly see whats happening and this same community celebrating killing a surrendering solider.
Edit: [Russian surrendering to drone that was posted in this sub.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/x3YlWFcmSw)
Edit 2: [Another example, sadly dude stepped on a mine](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/sUCl4uP5Y4)
Edit 3: [yet another surrender to drone with interview footage](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/MZmMSSpInB)
Edit 4: r/Ukraine [post where in they describe how to surrender to a drone and one of the top comments mentions how people said you cant surrender](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraina/s/2BqKkpT5hm)
Edit 5: [The only video of a Russian running. You know, the only one people talk about and it shows a dude surrendering while pointing to his buddy running back to the trench, still armed. So far no one seems to be able to produce a video showing a hands up Russian bailing on a surrender. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/lyvUJbotbr)
Thats fucked up. How long till some super power starts making hives of drones controlled by AI, just zerging around in the battlefield identifying targets and killing them automatically directed by the AI?
Imagine: a truck with 3 or 4 hives in its bed, each hive with 50 or 70 FPV drones, releasing them near the front. Thats easily 300 kills.
Pretty difficult to remote capture someone in no man’s land. Yes, we seen few successful drone surrenders, but this short clip leaves lots up to interpretation. Sometimes it’s simply too late to surrender, if the bullet has already been fired.
Turned into dust…
Wars get more cowardly by the day.
It has nothing to do wether you can facillitate the capture or not when deciding if it is a warcrime. Surrendering and not offering resistance grants you protection, period. If you cant take them prisoner you let them off. Very common to take prisoners in battle without logistics support, you cant simply kill them because if it. They could have tried to follow him to ukr lines, or simply let him walk off without a weapon. Simple. Any argument that then he can fight another day is irrelevant – he surrendered under the circumstances and is granted protection by the laws of war.
This is disgusting
From A to B in less than a second….
It doesn’t look like he try to surrender, more like he try to catch that drone. Anyway….
The age of AI driven drone swarms targeting people is nearly upon us. I know throughout all of history the future can seem pretty dark. But I really feel like we’re on the brink of a total catastrophe – climate change, AI replacing masses of jobs, including killing, the collapse of what’s left of western democracy, the collapse of public services that have been privatised, the continued transfer of wealth to the already absurdly wealthy, food scarcity will shortly be upon us as supply chains begin to collapse/alongside people genuinely being unable to afford food, rising bills to line already wealthy pockets, the list goes on.
I cannot see a bright future at all.
You can’t surrender by email.
Thats fucked up. But, he would have done the same. Rest in peace now
Maybe the drone operator had some friends who tried to surrender to the russians…and remembered what they did. Or it was just too late to call it off.
F Putin
Yeah, the rules of war will have to be rewritten once fully AI powered drone warfare is upon us.
Until then, not feeling sorry for Ivan. He made his choice.
**”Russian soldier ‘tries to’ surrender to a Ukrainian FPV at the last moment”**
That’s some ugly stuff
Isn’t it a war crime?
surrendering isn’t just a technicality where you throw your hands up and no one is allowed to target you, especially when the logistics for taking captives isn’t there. you also cant pick and choose when and when not to surrender as intent is important. if you gun down 5 men, only to surrender to a tank, your surrender as you might imagine is tenuous at best. y
Drones count as either aircraft or missiles, neither of which can take prisoners, and holding them or their operator accountable for targeting an enemy on the battlefield would set an ass backwards precedent which would disproportionaly disadvantage anyone who follows the geneva conventions that it would make a further mockery of the rules of wartime conduct.
Ultimately, soldiers who surrender are ultimately the ones who have to take the iniative. if a russian soldier truly wished to surrender he should walk in a straight line to the ukrainian positions, waving a white flag if possible whilst unarmed, and then you’d have an argument that he was surrendering and no longer a combatant.
a russian soldier huddling in a crater is still a soldier, armed and a present danger to ukrainian soldiers.
Is killing a surrendering enemy combatant a war crime? Wars need to end.
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