Palestinian Ambassador to the UK holds press conference – watch live

Palestinian Ambassador to the UK holds press conference – watch live

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Day is this working good morning good day before I take your questions allow me to say a few words we have just passed aund days of Israel’s war of choice on Gaza some 85,000 Palestinians have been killed or wounded so far that amounts to 850 people killed or wounded every single day

The vast majority are women and children this does not even include innocent people under the rubble missing or uncounted for Israel has damaged and destroyed 70% of gaza’s housing stock the damage to gaza’s civilian infrastructure has been comprehensive hospitals schools universities un facilities offices shops water treatment plants mosques Church churches and so

On this is the plan Israel began implementing a 100 days ago to make Gaza unlivable alas the plan is succeeding some 1.9 million people that is 85% of gaza’s population have been displaced to the south of Gaza primarily Rafa and are still bummed regular L even though these are supposed to be safe

Areas they now they now stay in tents overcrowded un facilities Schools public spaces homes of friends and relatives whereever they can there is no running water anywhere in Gaza or electricity and barely any fuel food assistance is only trickling in because Israel’s blockage and preventing access under the pretext of

Security gaza’s entire population of 2.3 million is being starved 93% face crisis level of hunger and Mal malnutrition 93% I’m quoting you International organizations un infectious diseases brought about by contaminated water a lack of hygiene and overcrowding is already becoming a pandemic a pandemic cases of Cholera reciproc illnesses diarrhea

Scabies atitis chicken poox are all soaring this will only get worse during the cold winter months gaza’s ability to treat people is and has been limited as you all know out of the 38 hospitals only eight are functioning partially Israel has decimated the health sector combined these are deliberate policies

Of starvation and diseases used as a weapon of War used as a weapon of war and we have no final count yet of the innocent people who have died because of the lack of health treatment Health Care starvation diseases pandemics and what have you the numbers I quoted earlier

Was only those who have been killed and wounded directly because of Israeli air strikes and fire but I assure you the numbers of those who have been killed because they were not treated for their cancer or they didn’t get the dialysis for their kidney failure is going to be

Shocking an entire population has been sentenced to death or mass expulsion exactly as top Israeli officials have been saying since the beginning of this aggression and even before even before the 7th of October using starvation as a weapon of War has happened before it happened in Ukraine in the

30s it happened in Saro in the ’90s it has happened in many other places but never never in history of mankind in such a short spam span of time and at this scale along with with the wholesale destruction of Gaza Israeli Onslaught on the West Bank is at a

Pace in Janine in nais in Jerusalem in heon KH everywhere but the whole destruction of Gaza is a deliberate genocide and ethnic cleansing very deliberate the intent and the execution despite this unprecedented man-made humanitarian disaster we see no serious efforts by the most important International actors to bring about an immediate

Sustainable comprehensive and permanent seaspa we do not see efforts to bring about an immediate and comprehensive lasting Ceasar without an immediate Ceasar there is no hope immediate comprehensive permanent without that immediate ceasefire we see no hope of addressing the apocalyptic situation in Gaza nothing comes before an immediate

Ceasefire all those who want to discuss other issues are missing the point are not helping this remains our top top priority in parallel to demanding a an immediate permanent ceasa there has to be a massive International humanitarian efforts to address gaza’s acute needs alongside a huge huge humongous

Reconstruction efforts to make the area liveable again so families can send their kids to school again they can send their children to hospitals to be treated again unlike Dr besu Who had to operate on his on on his daughter without anesthesia amputating her leg and I’m sure many of you have seen that

Horrifying image we must make Gaza liveable again and as soon as possible unfortunately countries like the US and the UK have so far resisted calling for an immediate ceas far do these countries really want to support what I have just described this is the only meaning of it starvation displacement extermination

Exmination of an entire population with the UN Security Council at a stalemate because of the us vetos all eyes are now on the international court of justice icg South Africa’s case against Israel at the icj is the first serious International effort at ending this appalling situation and demanding

Accountability after 75 years of being denied our basic rights equal to all other peoples this is the first serious attempt it came about because the International Community has failed in its duty to protect civilians as per their own commitments and responsibilities as Contracting parties to the international order the rules based International

Order it came about because the UN Security Council has for decades failed to implement its own resolutions on Palestine for decades more than 80 un Security Council resolutions all stand unimplemented let let’s be clear Israel chose to conduct a war of Vengeance of genocidal rage in fact Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin

Netanyahu is not only conducting a war of Vengeance but a war for his own political survival Netanyahu has already played L stated that no one and nothing no one and nothing not the icj not any other country will prevent him from pursuing this genocidal aggression to its end he has publicly stated

That in other words Israel has been clear that it does not intend to respect the findings of the highest arbitra of international law in the world the highest court of the globe the highest judicial Authority for our human family and this is not just in the last 100

Days Israel has refused to cooperate with any International investigations for 75 years Israel wants to reserve for itself judgment about who is violating international law and international humanitarian law Israel wants to be the only referee of its own crimes war crimes crimes against humanity genocide and the West let it do

So certain key Western governments have let Israel do so it is clear from the way Israel has conducted its War its aggression that it is regularly and openly violating the laws of war violating international law violating International humanitarian law violating our very basic human values our Universal

Values the UK has to be the United Kingdom has to be clear about these violations the UK and the rest of the world must be consistent about international law must be consistent about accountability must be consistent about the way forward things do not add up we are working with our people our

Allies friends brothers and sisters in the region and in the International Community to ensure there will be no forced displacement of Palestinians outside of our homeland that’s a top priority next to followed by an immediate permanent ceasefire there must be there must not be there must not be another Mass expulsion of

Palestinians like the nakba of 1948 never again never again 70% of our nation were ethnically cleansed in 1948 we shall not see that experience again and we will not and let me assure all of you here the following there is no military solution to this Israel has been at it

For 75 years it has failed and will continue to fail despite the backing of the Us and other countries no military solution to this there is only a political and legal solution the legal solution is being sought as we speak in the icj in the ICC the national criminal court and in

The Human Rights Council the UN Human Rights Council among many other legal institutions let me remind you that long before the 7th of October the state of Palestine which I represent here today asked the IC to investigate war crimes during the and after Israel’s 2014 aggression on Gaza so a case is

There at the ICC we have given full mandate and jurisdiction for the IC to invest instigate all war crimes all crimes committed in the occupied land of Palestine and the IC has been dragging its feet since 2014 we also referred the legal situation in the occupied territory for

An advisory opinion at the icj at the international court of justice to rule on Israel’s illegal occupation just last year a case is already there so we have been reverting to International legality we believe in the power of international law we need the international judicial system to come in

With full force with equal application of international rules this is an very important track that’s why we welcome South Africa’s case in the icg because we believe in the legal track to be a key track because we believe accountability has been missing for 75 years and short of reinforcing

Accountability we will revisit the horrors we are living today the political solution should come in irreversible and credible steps irreversible uncredible steps there needs to be a clear decision decision resolution in the security Council Council in the UN Security Council to implement its own resolutions

Enough one to remove the US veto on the state of Palestine assuming its rightful our rightful position as a full member of the United Nations because of the US V we are now a state in the UN system but a non-member state that’s has this veto has to be removed

Two to recognize the state of Palestine on the 1967 borders and we are recognized by 141 countries that’s the absolute vast majority of the world the rest is a club you know very well us UK Western Europe if you’re serious about two states and we’ll come to the two states in the conversations

Either we are serious about these resolutions or the whole foundation of the International System is hollowed out Simply hollowed out this is the biggest stress test of the international order since it’s founding in 1940 in the in the mid-40s since the second world war biggest stress

Test both at the political level ieu and Security Council and the legal level the icj and the ICC the implementation of un resolutions can then be addressed at an International Conference peace conference that will discuss Tim taes underwritings guarantees security empowerment of existing National institutions and enforcement of international resolutions none of the

Above none of it includes or needs a process or endless negotiations there is a consensus about where we should go all what we need is implementation and enforcement and international well to do so for 35 years my friends the world has said it it supports the end of Israel’s

Occupation I’m talking about the world consensus from the Far West to the Far East from the far north to the far south consensus supports the end of Israel’s occupation that began in 1967 the establishment of independent sovereign state of Palestine with Jerusalem as its capital and a fair resolution to the

Issue of Palestinian refugees in accordance with International resolutions what is there to negotiate what is there to negotiate have you do you ever ever recall any other place where International resolutions have been negotiated you negotiate when there is a dispute there is no dispute here

It is time to stop paying Li paying lib service and I’m addressing the the International Community here paying lib service and start getting serious this is the time now is the time the state of Palestine is ready the state of Palestine is ready to take charge of the whole territory of the

West Bank East Jerusalem and Gaza immediately the state of Palestine has the capacity we do have the capacity and institutions to do so with International support of course and I refer you to many international studies in the last many years including the World Bank that have said that we have built still under

Occupation National institutions at the level of middle income free independent Sovereign countries so please don’t talk to us about capacity because we can we have it and we can build it further however we refuse any military any military or partial solutions for Gaza Gaza is an integral part of the

State of Palestine of the Palestinian territory any role for the state of Palestine has to come in the context of Independence and sovereignty we do not accept Israel’s goal to separate Gaza carve Gaza from the rest of Palestine and that has been a constant goal for decades Israel wants to spread the

Conflict and this is very serious very real and very dangerous Netanyahu wants to drag everyone into his own political calculations and so Survivor and you’ve seen what has happened over the last few days and weeks and they want to spread the conflict not only for the surviving of

Netanyahu but because they have no they have no political solution there is no solution agenda on the table so far in Israel its allies should not help it in that direction shouldn’t its allies should once and for all get serious about addressing the root cause of the conflict namely

Israel’s illegal and brutal military occupation of Palestinian land the theft of our resources the subjugation of our people the oppression of our people the apartheid regime they have erected the besiegement of our entire population in Gaza and all the violations you will know and recorded and

Documented and as you all know this has been happening for 75 years only that way like peace the real question is who is prepared to take a serious stand for international law and for peace that is a question we are asking at this point in time and with that I’ll take your

Questions thank you okay we’ll start with you this is this is from yesterday asked Muslim to call on Hamas and tocate the situation and Muslim and peace found this an islamophobic remark what’s your comment on this our uh our issue is not religious religion is absolutely innocent of this

Situation this is not a Muslim Jewish issue it’s a ridiculous proposition to assume that we have an issue with Israel because of their identity we have an issue with Israel because of the identity of the oppressors that’s not true the issue is with the fact of our oppression it could be any

Identity and therefore we would want to warn any leaders of using such language as I tried to outline before our issue is legal and political has nothing to do with religion I have been seeing the outpouring support here in the UK including the massive demonstrations and I assure you there’s considerable number

Of Jewish brothers and sisters who take part in these demos all the time so this divisive politics between this religious group and that religious group does not help doesn’t help please at the end Sky hello from Channel 4 News um I realized it’s difficult to contemplate

The day after the war in the midst of the war in the midst of suffering but I wonder if you could share any insight into the conversations that have been taking place between particularly American officials and Pa officials about what role there could be for the

PA in the future what the pa respon suggestions to that what kind of suggestions have the Americans been making I know repeatedly use phology I believe reformed revitalized PA in the future you sh some thank you very much issues of revitalizing ing Palestinian national institutions is a purely internal matter any International

Intervention uh uh would be extremely counterproductive because it’s meddling we have our national institutions we have our legitimate institutions we have the PLO that represents all Palestinians inside and and outside the PLO is not only recognized as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people

By the region and the World by but first and foremost by our people not one Palestinian challenges the legitimacy of the PLO of course we are not perfect who is name me one government that is perfect we need to make sure that our institutions are at at the level that

Our people expect but that’s a purely Palestinian national matter internal Palestinian national matter yes we heard many things from the US in conversations we had we had many uh promises U many vows uh and so far they have been unimplemented from the US wanting Israel to downscale and start stopping its

Aggression which has not happened Israel is doubling down all the way to simple issues like uh Israel stopped the Pary on our own money you know the the the tax they collect on our behalf and they have been withholding for the last 3 months the US said from day one this has

To be uh repaid it’s your money it’s not their money even that the US couldn’t get through Israel and therefore this causes a serious question about the US’s ability and influence on Israel despite the fact that the US is the biggest political legal material military backa of Israel almost most of Israel’s Weaponry

Including all these 2,000 bounds pounds sorry towns uh uh bombs that are falling on the heads of our families are American men so e either America doesn’t use its leverage or doesn’t know how to use its leverage please hi um so years you seem toed importance

From the icj what if the icj rules in Israel’s favor there is no way the icj would rule in Israel’s fi there is no possible legal way this was the first time in history that a genocide has been recorded by the people who were executed transmitted life all over the world

There is no way Israel can hide its intent of committing genocide there is no way on Earth from the Prime Minister provoking invoking the amalik just the first day of the aggression to the defense minister with his hands saying that I’ve just cut water electricity fuel gasoline

Everything all the way to members of the cabinet KES it and therefore this is a defining moment should the icj stick to its legal mandate and succeed in its ruling it have succeeded for itself and for the international order for the rules based International order should it fail I

Think it would have failed itself its mandate and the entire rules-based order please DBC sorry I’ll come to all of you BBC BBC can I follow question about thej um it’s clearly it’s going to take years before they Ru on genocide it’s a legal Mountain uh for the South Africans

To climb you know that everyone knows that what are your actual practical hopes for the outcome of the United are you more interested in what they might do in terms of issuing provisional orders in the coming weeks because waiting for four years for a genocide verdict is not very useful as

It it isn’t and that’s why the South African case was very clear they presented a case in two forms the first is provisional measures uh uh that the court should issue a temporary injunction to stop the genocide until the Merit of genocide is being investigated I agree that the second

Part will take some time and the process of courts are usually lengthy but the first one as per the very Mandate of the icj should be very short and should be looked at within days maximum few weeks and therefore it is that part that we

Are waiting for uh we want to see an immediate uh uh injunction uh for Israel to stop now many would say that Israel did not heit the icga before Israel may not he the icj now but the legal and political ramification of an IC decision for or an immediate injunction of the

Aggression and the genocide would have consequences and we would build on it this is not going to be maybe a knockdown effect or a knockout effect but it’s a major major step in the right direction for two things first is stubbing this Carnage because nobody else dead it’s not like we have other

Options no one else dead and for the sake of accountability and here accountability is key my friend it’s very key we must make sure that what has taken place over the last 100 days 100 days will never ever happen again all of us including you in the media these atrocities the normalization

Of mass killing of children the normalization of mass destruction of homes schools the normalization of starvation the normalization of the use of diseases as a weapon is the most dangerous thing that happen in our history since the World War II and even before and to ensure that this does not

Ever happen again we must make sure that those who has who have done so are brought to Justice that’s the best way to do so and perhaps the only way to do so we need accountability so we bring Justice to the victims but we also need

Deterrent and you tell me what would be the best deterrent the best deterrent is a nonviolent legal act at the icj South Africa and before it the state of Palestine were using this legitimate legal means so we don’t give way to others to use different means you see this is

Everybody who blocks that venue is somebody who is promoting violence that’s the be that’s the actual truth that needs to be conveyed and portrayed there um now uh okay I’ll come to you I come to you it’s Ry Ry from the BBC just want to ask you

To say a little bit more of in mind about uh the UK you said the you expect the UK to be clear about uh Israel’s violations of the laws of war and you’ve certainly presented a very strong case position this morning um in reality prime minister Rishi

Sunak has uh rejected the South African accusation of genocide against Israel uh the UK opposes a ceasefire so do you feel uh let down by the UK and do you feel that your messages perhaps failed to penetrate uh the UK uh decision makers and secondly if you don’t mind the Home Secretary as

You’ll know uh has is to ban Hiser at the end of this week almost certainly I’d like to know your response to that whether you uh you condone that or uh you disagree with that uh the Banning of this group thank you Rafi

Um well as I said we want to see uh a UK policy that is consistent and clear and we don’t see that on the one hand we hear the UK prime minister isi sonak and others saying that you know the icj has no mandate Israel’s the is the case against

Israel of side does not stand they say that right you just quoted them they appointed the it’s a self-appointment as International Jud judges its intervention and interfer interference in the international judicial system but when they are asked does Israel violate international law like only a couple of

Days ago in the parliament they say oh we’re not lawyers we don’t intervene this has to be left to The Experts this is the inconsistency this is the double standards this is the selectivity this is the hypocrisy also the inconsistency in many other uh forms only recently the UK

Government has announced a new policy significant and welcomed that they will ban violent settlers from accessing the UK they will be bought on a blacklist welcomed serious policy in my opinion that was a very significant moment because you know why not because of the policy itself but this is the first time

In 75 years the UK takes any step that has to do with sanctions the first time ever yet and we have said publicly and I repeat it here that policy needs to be more comprehensive because there is no such a thing as good settlers and bad settlers all settlers are illegal all

Settlements are illegal all these entities and those who reside in it are very clearly defined in international law as war crimes this is not us defining it this is the for Geneva Convention def defining it the transfer of the occupying power population to the occupied land is a war

Crime yet I have just said this is this was a significant development where is the inconsistency here only last Wednesday the UK government pushes ahead a legislation using the power of the law a legislation in the Parliament that has been voted in the third and final reading last Wednesday so they curb

Public bodies here and perhaps others from divesting from these illegal settlements from taking any step to actually Mark that these the products of these settlements are illegal it’s such a it’s such a bell that number one gives another layer of protection to the illegal settlement products those who work in settlements illegal settlers

A h a new level of protection shielding and furthermore it says and this law does not apply if a new government comes in office IE uh because the beginning of the legislation says any public body what have you has to be in line with the the the government policy ironically the government policy

Does not call for the sanctions on the settlement products and activities transactions so Israel was unfortunately shielded by the first part but they go even further to say even if a government changes its policy Israel remains to be the exception unbelievable furthermore they erase any distinction between Israel the occupied

Territories and the Golan Heights the they put it in one sentence one paragraph one item as the exception this is the inconsistency where are you exactly do you consider Israel’s occupation of the 1967 borders to be a military occupation and colonization where are you exactly I tell you there is such

Inconsistency in the UK policy that I as an ambassador here to my country and to for my people I no longer understand if you ask me what is the UK policy Vis A Palestine I don’t inconsistent contradictory I don’t have much details about that I really don’t this is a this

Is this this is a this this is this is a UK matter and uh I’ll be looking I’ll be look I’ll I’ll be I’ll be uh uh yes I am the Palestinian Ambassador so I comment on Palestinian issues that has to do with the UK uh go

Ahead I’m sorry I I think you came late you came after because I have many hands here I have many hands here CS yes um in December the Palestinian Authority prime minister M said that Hamas is an integral part of the Palestinian MOS I know again it’s

Hard to talk about the day after and administering Gaza in the future but do you still you yes and following on from that how do you view an Administration with a reformed Hamas to reform Palestinian Authority Hamas is a Palestinian matter not an international matter and only a Palestinian National Institution a

Palestinian internal process will uh uh integrate will deal with that not International and external intervention Hamas is not just its military Wing Hamas is also an idea an ideology and if you want to challenge that idea you have to present a different idea uh and there has been many efforts

Many attempts at reconciliation in the past only a few months before the October 7th on in July there was uh an initiative by our president president Mahmud Abbas bringing all heads of various factions including the heads of Hamas in in Egypt and the discussion is ongoing the idea is Hamas needs to be

Part of the PLO uh and needs to respect and abide by the pl’s provisions and the p pl’s responsibilities just to expand on that question so would you see heras as having a kind of specific legal institutional role in running Gaza after the conflict Hamas is a political faction

And a military uh uh uh uh uh when uh the institutions that should run Gaza Jerusalem and the West Bank is the institutions of the State of Palestine and Hamas needs to be brought to the Palestinian national institutions in a in an internal National reconciliation process that ensures that all of us are

Committed to the uh very agenda the the principles the commitments of the PLO for its own people our agenda which is very clear and for the international law so uh issues of governance has got to be in the hands of the state of palestin and the institutions of the State of Palestine sorry

Andrew thank you ambassad follow pressure on PA to form a technocratic government that could administer both West Bank after the war um are those conversations going on is there pressure being put on the PA to come up with new names for a prime minister for a cabinet Etc can you give

Us any insight into those kind of conversations taking place what the Americans and other I can’t share with you conversations Andrew but I can tell you the following I can tell you our position I mean our position is the problem is not picking a name and choosing another name that’s not the

Problem and the Prime Minister we have now is a very capable uh National figure this is not about personalities this is about changing the whole Dynamics in my opinion if you bring Nelson Mandela back and hand him the keys they will not succeed given the Dynamics now so the

Issue is not to always do what the International Community has done for a long time this is a movie we have seen for a 100 times for a thousand times whenever the international Comm fails to pressure Israel they turn their eyes into Palestinians and they say oh only

If you fix this and that you have issues here and have issues there and remember what happened with our late president yat and the besiegement and the killing of Y under the same pretext we have our institutions we have our leaders we have our people and our people demand many things

By the way the Palestinian people people are their expectations is very high I assure you and the pressure the main pressure is internal but the external side of the pressure uh is is not very helpful why because part of that argument Andrew is not just to export

The crisis and the failure to pressure Israel upon us and let’s see if we have a new government maybe things will change things will not change unless you tackle the root causes unless you tackle the root causes and if you want to talk about regime change and if you want to talk about

Renewal did you hear anybody from the International Community talking about Israeli government seriously we have the most renowned members of our cabinet right now respected and adhering to international law and resolutions and in line with the international consensus can you apply that on smotr or or B Andrew or Netanyahu so stop

This stop it and there is another side to this there’s another major side to this which is a very implicit line all through that for some reason we are the only exception on Earth whereby our rights are conditioned upon some sort of behavior shall I say it again our rights

Are conditioned upon some sort of behavior I.E the Palestinians has they have to behave in a certain manner which is according to their occupi judgment for them to be worthy worthy the right of self-determination for them to be worthy the right to return for them to

Be worthy a state this is utter nonsense nonsense we have been behaving however but even if we misbehave even if we misbehave our right to self-determination is a bir right has nothing to do with how tall are we how wide are we how good are we how bad are

We how good managed or mismanaged we I haven’t heard this in any other case so it is very important to call out that logic and in my opinion that logic is very designed it’s orchestrated it’s meant it’s embil in the whole process of Israeli Le us Le so-called peace

Processes and it is meant to block the final outcome I say it before I say it again Andrew we are not perfect who is and there is a lot that needs to be done but I assure you if you now have an initiative whereby the world is ready to

Implement its own resolutions their own resolutions over a two-state solution on the 1967 borders you will find Palestine ready to implement that and you will find the Israeli government completely and utterly un ready to do so uh okay I’m going to have to uh divert here or my friend and my friend Guardian

English can I ask you to expand a bit on what you were saying about standing ready to uh run the entire Palestinian territory as a state but not to be in any way sort of a halfway house after the the would you be prepared to do in Gaza once hostilities have ceased um

Before there were well it’s clear it’s very clear U they there were two agendas for the last 35 years the first is the Palestinian and with us the in International Community that agenda was going towards backrolling Israeli occupation colonization and establishing a state of pal Palestine and resolving

All outstanding issues in according with International resolutions legitimacy consensus that’s the first agenda and that’s why we went to the Madrid peace conference under the US offices and mediation at the time if you remember and other major countries and then the oso agreements and the oso process the second agenda which started shortly

After the assassination ofak Rabin shortly after so the whole thing this first agenda was was lived for a year a year and a half and then isak Rabin was assassinated and who was elected bamin Netanyahu remember 1996 there comes the second agenda you’re talking about a quarter of a century now

25 years of netanyahu’s government in and out but he was the key sort of uh uh uh decider uh uh uh uh of the uh direction of travel Israel was taking and that agenda is an agenda that is anti two State solution that is uh uh based on bypassing the Palestinian issue

Remember all that he has done and the normalization and what have you bypassing the Palestinian issue having us as the biggest elephant in the room but don’t talk about it and slowly slowly build what the leud charter says the greater Israel project from The River To The Sea that’s the second

Agenda and why I’m explaining all that because Within These within the second agenda there comes netanyahu’s Israeli successive government’s obsession with maintaining Palestinian geog graphic and political divisions do I need to give you details jazer knows about this more than anyone else Netanyahu was enabling cash to go

Into Gaza because he has said it publicly in the keset that he wants to see the Palestinians continue being divided fragmented that’s why we need to empower the first agenda and that’s why the only legitimate entity that takes over is a state of Palestine that is there to

Protect and provide for its people in Gaza in Jerusalem in the West Bank and in the diaspora and Exile a state of Palestine that is an agent and and and agency for their people that is the source of legitimacy now about the practicality all what it takes is a bit

Of political will and I outlined the process of starting at a global global decision that sends a clear message in the security Council and then we work the details but the time of trying to create several authorities the the time to play on the on the fragmentation is

Gone it’s gone The Entity the agency that should take care of our people is the state of Palestine the government of that state is the PLO in inm because the PLO is the sole legitimate representation of every Palestinian the 13 plus million of us inside and outside

And the PLO will be t to convene elections for uh for the government of the State of Palestine once elections are possible okay I’ll come to B Patrick and then I’ll come to thank you very much guardan and thank you ambor um you’ve been very critical of the UK

Government um and I wonder how disappointed you are with the legal leadership um they they support sustainable C which is only achievable after H threat to isra they haven’t as far as I can see supported thec case and they will not say if International humanitarian law is

Beinged by Israel just say that they should um so my questions are what do you think motivates the Li leadship and you think right there will be no negative electoral impact how much damage is being done to the UK generally not just to the LA party reputationally in region byes thank

You well all what I can say about the UK labor party is that we are we expect the current leadership to be true to its own base we know where the labor base is the labor base is is with an international or internationalist agenda the labor

Base is with a fair just solution to the issue of Palestine the labor base is with the uh uh labor party committing to international law and committing to the provision of international law such as the icj the uh the labor Bas is also with sanctions uh being enforced on any

Illegal uh transactions including the settlements and the settlers and what have you the companies working in the settlements there has been numerous conferences congresses of the labor party numerous resolutions throughout the the last so many years so we expect the labor leadership to um to to reflect

The depth of of feeling and the policies of its own uh its own base and its own values uh that’s what we truly expect and of a leader of the labor party sir kirama who is himself uh uh a lawyer specialized in international humanitarian law so he knows best uh uh

Uh and we hope that will be reflected more and more in his and their policies in the time to come um as for the uh uh issue of the damage the reputation of damage of the UK I have said this to senior very senior UK ministers and officials that uh as far

As the perception in the region damage has been done damage has has been done and uh the perception is that the UK is always quick to um Shield Israel U the perception is that the UK is um uh uh uh uh unable unwilling to focus primarily

On the root cause um and the UK has not helped in the call for Aisa however there is a long history here a very long history goes back many many decades ago uh and I I hope that uh that uh perception is going to be fixed uh attended to uh altered reversed

Uh uh very soon we believe that the UK has a role to play We believe the UK was the pinh holder of international diplomacy you have one of the best diplomatic uh uh uh cob diplomatic uh uh uh uh capacity in the world uh you are a

Founder of the internal AAL system the post World War II International System I keep reminding myself and others that the first UN General Assembly did not take place in in San Francisco or New York it took place here in London in the Methodist Church in West Minister Square

The first UN General Secretary was British um and therefore uh we are really hoping that the UK would uh uh and by the way the UK was the pen holder up until recently uh we are hoping that the UK will return uh to be that uh to

Be um a force of enforcing International legality and international uh roles and that in itself will take care of the issue of reputational damage um yes and and then okay we’ll take the last three questions okay escalation d distracting from the what is happening in palan the go away from

Pal well uh from day one from day one we have been warning that the aggression on Gaza if not stopped will spread the West Bank including Jerusalem is on a Tipping Point literally Israel is invading towns refugee camps all over the West Bank and you are following provoking killing Ming arresting you’re talking

About thousands so it’s a matter of time when Prussia will we have been warning from this becoming Regional because we know Netanyahu would want to make it Regional and we know uh that uh his allies uh might have to actually be dragged into his Wars and his calculations

So we warn that the spread of this is going to be damaging and the only way the only way to stop the spread is to stop the aggression on Gaza ceas far immediate and we need to stop as an International Community to deal with the symptoms symptoms we have got to go

Straight to the cause not the symptoms the the immediate cause is the aggression on Gaza this atrocious murderous campaign that’s the immediate cause as for the actual cause it is as I have described the military occupation and the colonization um okay please and then from thank you much for us

Here jce for Palestinians announc they provided the police with more evidence of war crimes committed by Israelis and there was some evidence related to British politicians as well how what’s your take on this kind of effort from campaign groups and how can you explain to us the

Disc stream we see you every weekend leading hundreds of thousands of people protesting for fire in Gaza but uh there’s a failure in convincing one parliamentary party English Parliament party to cour for ceas how can you explain this to us what was the first question sorry about the International Center of

Justice announced today they provided police with evidence crimes committed by Israeli leaders and also some British politicians some remarks from them supporting this kind of crime I don’t have the details about the uh uh International Center for justice for Palestinians I’ll leave it to them uh to

Comment on that but I can assure you of our complete support for the legal track we need to leverage utilize benefit from the legal track from the court system uh uh uh uh everywhere possible so uh we hope that courts uh uh judicial institutions uh uh will be a place where

We stop the madness the Carnage The atrocities as for the um as for the public the British public I very much uh agree that this is the most empowering inspiring and strategic uh development that happened since 100 days U seeing hundreds of thousands Millions not only in London but all over

The UK and the world is a scene that reminds us of the anti-apartheid movement and like that of South Africa anti-apartheid movement some governments came very late in supporting the anti it is often the people who actually start a movement it is often the people who side with Justice it is often the

People not politicians who actually create Dynamics par pressure to change the course of history and to free Nelson Mandela remember so I take what happens in the Streets of London very strategically very strategically you know why and I believe Britain is the most strategically relevant place for a movement for Palestine because the

Anti-apartheid movement emanated from London it was the British people who led the anti- aparte movement and I believe given the history even the belfer Declaration that Colonial declaration the arrogance of the British Empire promising our land without consulting us and turning us the natives that who have lived there for Millennia for

Millennia uh the birthplace of Christianity and almost every other civilization the crossroad of civilizations turned us into non-jewish minorities therefore the the historic legal political moral relevance of Britain cannot be overstated on the one hand on the other hand the British people are known for their uh Quest For Justice

Fairness exposed and very well read uh uh London is known for its being the Hub of international activism The Hub of international Civil Society you very very complex set of of Institutions The Hub of international media look at you here and therefore we are in the

Right place at the right time with the right people to be with this movement uh uh be part of this change and I for one believe that this is the best hope we have to change the positions of the government here and elsewhere the lady behind and then we will

Okay BBC wants to come back support what do I make of what some of them have actually been using language and thank you Christina and thank you for being here from GB um I have taken part in almost every demonstration and I was a speaker in

Most of them but not I mean the central ones I haven’t seen you know chantings that people are accusing these people I have seen love I have I have seen love I have seen uh commitment to International legality I have seen diversity I have seen Unity I have seen

All colors all religions I have seen many many Jewish brothers and sisters in these demos and not just for the last 100 days but for the last 75 years with us uh I have I have seen the best Britain offers the way Britain did this to the South Africans is is the way

British people are doing it to Palestine and attempts to conflate and to use one person here and two individuals there to conflate and to uh uh uh uh uh actually frame Millions is a very bad exercise we should focus on the millions not the two three individuals the millions are

Calling out for an immediate ceasa that is something so Humane that is something so British that is something that should be hailed and respected the millions are demanding an end of Israel’s occupation that is the policy of the UK that is the international consensus resolutions and the millions are pro promising to create

An agency to put pressure on all that to happen so let’s not defame and defile and desecrate the most beautiful thing that happened over the the only beautiful thing that happened in the last 100 days which is the outpouring raw emotions and principal Sol solidarity of ordinary mother you know I

Was walking last Saturday how many how many mothers with their babies with their uh you know uh iPads playing around it was Britain there was ordinary families and the media here I’ve seen all the headlines the media would start six arrests at you see the framing six arrests okay there were half a

Million there is always an attempt to focus on The Fringe not the bulk not the heart we need to stop that Christina and we need to really really give these people what they are what they are ought of respect admiration because so far they are the best hope we

Have uh okay I will have to choose Paul and our friend from from from memo Nasim and that’s it Ambassador um before October 7th um the case of Palestine almost vanished from the international agenda the White House thought the region was sustainable there was no pressure on the

Government everyone was the phrase the two- State solution had almost entirely disappeared now it’s back every day day in day out you have the Saudis saying that you any attempt to normalization with Israel will be in a more explicit way than perhaps was ever case before do

You feel that this is actually a moment of opportunity do you feel any optimism that out of the Dreadful things that have happened in the last three or four months something better will emerge yes with a capital letter yes because anybody who thought that they could bypass the Palestinian

Issue has at least stopped thinking so and any anyone who thought that Israel’s military might is the solution and I mean anybody including in the Israeli ranks and files have to think again anybody who thinks that the occupation could turn into a permanent reality has got to rethink anyone who thought that

That biggest elephant in the room could be simply Abra Kadabra disappearing uh has to think again so yes with that comes an opportunity for seriousness for political well for a momentum it does it does and I believe that uh we could do it but I have my

Fears I have my reservations and the main reservation I have the the main fear I have this tragedy that happened since the 7th of October most horrific tragedy in modern history a scar in our Humanity for generations to come could be turned into a momentum a positive moment but it requires one

Thing International Leadership now Paul you name me if we have International Leadership now you tell me my fear is this moment will be wasted by the lack of a serious powerful determined consistent principled International Leadership my fear is we will go back to the last 30 40 Years of OBS there is

Elections in the US OBS there is election in the UK oh there let’s wait for elections in Israel always deferring always kicking the ball to the other side always buying time and I assure you one thing if if we buy time this time time will be our

Enemy time will be our enemy not our friend so I hope my fears are not accurate and I hope because all the Ducks are allying now and I’m saying International Leadership because forget it to to wait for an Israeli government that will be perfectly ready to uh bring

The majority of their population towards and Implement International consensus I’m not so sure if this will happen in your and my lifetime Palestinian institutions could be easily impart supported by an international uh uh uh uh system International Alliance uh could bring it to the best level there is and they do

Exist and we have them the missing point is the role of a third party that’s the missing role and our issue was started by a third party that’s your country pool that’s the UK was sustained by a third party since then that’s the US our issue is international and name me one

Conflict that was resolved without a strong sustained International intervention a third party role one conflict South Africa Ireland the Balkans were eore every and each one of those were resolved because of a sustained credible International external mediation and credible and uh uh uh uh uh intervention and therefore I hope that

Part of the of the equation is not going to be missing in the coming weeks and months October shocking to because sing com also yest reverse Palestinian State why now that seems another attempt to P Palestinians what was TOs okay thank you Nim thank you very much Biden and the 100 days statement it’s very regrettable it’s extremely extremely painful unregrettable to see the president of the US uh that has been wanting to be the sole mediator in the peacemaking that poses itself as a guarantor of international legality that

Hor the UN mentions 100 Days with failing to mention the 10,000 children who have been slaughtered the 85,000 who have been killed and injured the lives taken without any consideration of any profession it’s very painful and I believe this has more to do with the US than us and it does

Speak volumes about the US policies and standings in the world and lots needs to be done there um and I I’m not going to comment further as for uh K sir K St and the reported news yesterday uh that he may reverse his policies we have sent a letter to the

Labor leadership requesting clarification about this we are yet to receive it it was late last night that that thing came out once we do we will comment on it for now we uh uh uh uh expect demand that the UK labor continues to have it uh very clear policy of immediate

Recognition of banning the illegal settlement products of supporting International legality ICC and icj and of supporting a political resolution that includes the ending of the occupation Israeli occupation any change of that policy uh would be seen as rewarding Netanyahu just when he had just committed the most horrific

Genocide in recent memory so I thank you all for this thank you very much and we’ll see you again thank you thank you you Spe we yeah

Palestinian Ambassador to the UK, Husam Zomlot, holds briefing