FM also stated the obvious – Labour *will* win the next election, Starmer *is* going to be the next prime minister, no matter how Scotland votes – “we all know that”.

by 1DarkStarryNight

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  1. There was a ceasefire. It lasted about 30 seconds before each side breached it. Meaningless thing to call for.

  2. Because Sir Kid Starver is happy letting bairns die. That’s it really.

  3. https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/12/21/hamas-cease-fire-hostages-israel-un-security-council-prague-mass-shooting-university/

    Why do the people constantly targeting politicians in this country never go after the people who actually refused a ceasefire, i.e Hamas?

    I don’t know whether it’s western exceptionalism or a profound belief that non-white groups are incapable of doing anything themselves, but it crops up every time when it comes to foreign affairs.

  4. “We can’t have a ceasefire because Hamas will use it to regroup”.

    Current bombing isn’t destroying Hamas at all, and if they are going to regroup regardless, then it obviously makes the best time for a ceasefire to be *right now*. Otherwise it is just the slaughter of civilians and the continued infliction of misery with no strategic advancements.

  6. > no matter how Scotland votes.

    Therein lies the fundamental problem. Our opinions and aspirations as a country don’t matter within the UK.

  8. Can anyone explain me in what position Scotland is to demand anything from Israel? At this moment not even the US can hold that much. What small and unimportant Scotland can do ?

  11. Focus on Scotland Humza, we’re in a mess and need to to at least give a shit about us instead of everyone else

  12. Why would you have a cease fire against a terrorist organisation.

    If people want it over they should be joining in to get rid of Hamas faster.

  13. Labour needs to pick up seats in Scotland otherwise it’s a lot less certain a Labour government can be formed.

  14. Erdoğan’s piss-up pal clutching at straws here

  15. How come he’s not called for ab end to fighting in Balochistan as well

  16. What fucking difference would it make choosing a side? Stay out of it, it’s divided the planet enough over something we have no power over

  17. > Within Israel and Palestine, in the west bank, settler violence must stop immediately, and in Gaza we need a humanitarian truce now—not as a short pause, but as the first step on a road away from violence. The need for a sustainable ceasefire is clear to stop the killing of innocent civilians, to create the space for the return of all the hostages, and to provide urgent humanitarian relief to protect against disease and ward off a devastating famine. From that first step, we can begin a bigger push towards peace, a permanent end to the fighting and a lasting political solution. The hope of a two-state solution is fragile, but it is still there and we must fight for it, just as we must remain resolute in the face of aggression that threatens global security, whether in Europe or in the Red sea.

    [Keir Starmer](https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2024-01-15/debates/52945864-28EB-49AC-B933-33B546DF75B6/DefendingTheUKAndAllies#)

    (and of course the response to an open question about uk political leaders only addresses Starmer, not Sunak who is actually in a position to exert some influence)

  18. “I don’t know how anybody can…” A phrase best avoided because the response to it is straightforward and complete. “Why don’t you listen while they explain then?”

    Starmer was clear on why he doesn’t support a ceasefire. People who don’t support one range in views but the answer to not agreeing to one while seeing all the death is normally that the ceasefire wont stop that, at best, it’ll just drag it out over a longer period.

    The quote that sums it up is that of marshal Radetzky in 1848 “Three days of blood will give us thirty years of peace”.

    Obv given that didn’t happen then and certainly isn’t happening now, my personal opinion on the matter differs but I understand the idea.

    If you don’t understand why people reject a ceasefire then frankly, you aren’t listening and therefore, aren’t useful to the discussion.

  19. What they really mean when they say ceasefire is that only Israel should stop fighting, but Hamas should be allowed to continue firing rockets into Israel whenever they please.

  20. Everyone praises those who wanted a ceasefire with Nazis in WW2 now don’t they? Appeasement is seen as a flagship successful political strategy….

    ​

    Perhaps i’m crazy old school and kooky, but when Nazis invade a country, commit the biggest genocide of jews since the holocaust, systemically committing sexual assault during the process, there is no ceasefire until those Nazis have been removed…

  21. I mean, why call for a ceasefire when both Israel and Hamas want to fight?

  22. >”Nobody understands what Keir Starmer stands for. Why has he not shown the appropriate leadership on Gaza…

    Because that’s the job of the leader of the country? Something Keir Starmer isn’t.

  23. Here’s a question:

    What would calling for a ceasefire do?

    Hamas broke the original ceasefire on Oct 7th. They’ve also refused a recent ceasefire offer by Egypt (or Saudi Arabia).

    Israel doesn’t seem willing either.

    If there was a ceasefire we’d just be back to the status quo before another war broke out. Kicking the can down the road does not solve the actual issue.

    The UK also has little to no influence on Hamas or Israel deciding to have a ceasefire.

  24. Did t take long for this to get brigaded to fuck by sockpuppets and heartless ghouls did it?

    The call for a ceasefire is for the benefit of the thousands of innocent Palestinians being killed not hamas you stupid cunts.

  25. The actual British government has literally zero influence over anything Israel or Hamas does, any more than the Glasgow Uni Students Representative Council did when the First Minister was presumably getting started using a horribly complicated and tragic foreign civil war to score political brownie points to further his career.

    There is certainly nothing either Starmer or Yousef can do about it.

  28. The only reason I see Humza in the news is either because he is banging on about Israel/Palestine or because of his personal family issues.

    With respect, foreign policy is not in the remit of the Scottish Government and we are not seeing the likes of Mark Drakeford doing the same. He needs to be focusing his attention on the priorities of the Scottish people for once.

  29. Honestly you’d think this guy didn’t have a day job

    He gives far more of a shit about Gaza than he does about Scotland

  30. Calling for a ceasefire is pointless because Israel and Hamas have contradictory goals. 

    Israel has already offered a ceasefire to Hamas in exchange for release of the hostages, and Hamas leaders / members being exiled from Gaza.

    Hamas says there will be a ceasefire if they release the hostages and Israel ends the war with Hamas still in power. 

    Neither side has accepted either terms. 

  31. There was a ceasefire. Hamas (the elected leaders of Gaza) broke it on October 7th when they flew parasails into Israel, raped and tortured hundreds of people, killed hundreds more and gleefully broadcast it.

    No nation could tolerate this proven security threat on their doorstep. They are being rooted out and destroyed. Release all hostages, apologise, disband Hamas and hand over the leadership for trial at the international court. That is a path to ceasefire that the Israelis might accept.

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