Putin-Angriff auf die NATO in 5-8 Jahren „möglich“: Deutscher Verteidigungsminister

by Carla_DFW

43 comments
  1. I’d be surprised if he’s still alive in eight years.

  2. They’re struggling against Ukraine never mind taking on NATO.

  3. Gee, I wonder what will be more expensive? Funding Ukraine now or defending NATO then? Derp!

  4. Nah. Sooner than that, someone over there will take one for the team and deal with him.

  5. Putin will wait for a sympathetic US president to take over before that ever happens.

  6. That bag of vodka will be empty in less than 5yrs.

  7. Once all the current brainwashed kindergartners reach 18

  8. …. Why are they so intent on pushing this “Russia is going to attack us” narrative?

    What could Russia possibly gain from attacking NATO????

    It will just end with them getting bombed into oblivion – so what is the point??

  9. Maybe STOP BUYING GAS from him today?

    EU been enriching Putin for 30 years now

  10. Putin attack on NATO not possible if you fully back Ukraine and help them finish dismantling this fucking Gas Station With Nukes (pe McCain)

  11. it’s inevitable. if putin does not get punished or finished for Ukraine, he is going to target Poland next.

  12. Can someone just stomp this flaming bag of shit out now, instead of letting it burn and hope it just goes out? Someone here once said the US is the best at putting warheads on foreheads. Lets see it then.

  13. I feel like the systemic failures of the Russian military will take decades to address – assuming they can actually wrangle the kleptocracy into submission long enough to address those failures.

  14. This is hilarious. Let’s fuck this guy up now before he comes after us… in 4 or 5 years

  15. Which is why we keep him pinned down in Ukraine, and have him waste his material and human resources on a war he can’t win.

  16. A 76-years old man is going to order an attack on NATO, an attack that he might not live to see through even if he doesn’t die in the subsequent war.

    This doesn’t pass the realism test.

  17. I say it is better to wait till hi has the power to do it, and only then start doing something about it, we are so civil and naive …

  18. A Reddit thread from 2 years ago made a hell of an argument to Russia retaking Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. This entire quest is based on Russia trying to stay a European nation and not be segregated as an Asian nation.

    Those 3 countries are already under heavy influence from Russian political spending but I’m not sure how their internal politics work. I’m sure they are trying to create a division so they can fracture the government which is pretty much their card for the last 60 years right?

    Based on what we have seen in Ukraine I honestly can’t see Russia rolling into Poland or anything crazy like that. It has to be a gradual insurgency that snowballs into a civil conflict and ends with Russia rolling in to “save ethic Russians from genocide” so that takes a lot of countries odd the table

  19. I’m no super diplomat or anything, but Russia hasn’t been in a position to project power abroad since world war 2. They can’t even conquer poor neighboring countries like Afghanistan and Ukraine, let’s not pretend they’re suddenly going to take on the US and Europe, particularly after wasting all of their dwindling resources on stalemate in Ukraine. What are they going to attack with, crude oil bombs?

    Russia thinks that they can stroll into a country and frighten the other side into surrender like they did in Prague, Warsaw and Crimea over the last 60 years, but when someone actually fights back, we see how inept they are.

  20. I thought I read like a decade ago that russia is having a population decline/birth problem of some kind? Seems like this war stuff would make that worse?

  21. Well, you always prepare for the worst. But I really doubt that would happen. Putin launched the Ukrainian war because at one point, he truly believed Zelensky will run, there is no leadership in Kyiv, and his puppet politicians from Ukraine could take over. It didn’t happen, but it is not like he didn’t have a real chance because he made it in Crimea. Attack on NATO? I don’t think he is that delusional. It is like suicidal.

    I also don’t know many people claim Putin will win Ukrainian war if like Trump gets elected and the aid package is not in time. I know it would be bad for Ukraine, and they probably have little chance to take back lost land without outside help. But in what scenario Putin could win this war? Russia basically took control of dozens of almost demolished cities. They have no money for rebuild after the war; they probably have no resources to take advantage of the land and natural resources they robbed; and they have no cooperation from the locals. Occupation has been proved 10 times more difficult than winning the invasion in the modern era. How could that end up well for Russians?

  22. europe needs to step their game up and stop appeasing putin..we’ve went all in on ukraine so far and if biden isnt reelected then yall are gonna have to take action or cower to putin, let him take ukraine, and then whatevers next on his agenda.

    we’ve helped ukraine start the race and europe might need to be the one to get it thru to the finish without us, unfortunately.

  23. Yup, a few Apaches hovering behind a hill miles beyond the range Russian manpads decimating Ivans Tank columns sounds like a good move for Fruity Pooty.

  24. Haha what a dumb fuck if Putin really is entertaining that idea

  25. Death of Putin is more likely within that timeframe.

  26. “Possible”and “probable” are very different words .

  27. Just like how Hitler didn’t want to go to war against the UK or America, Putin planned for 2024 to dismantle NATO by testing article 5 over a Suwalki Gap provocation, after having had succeeded in annexing most of Ukraine (Hungary and Poland annexing/placing under protectionTranscarpathia and Lvov)

  28. Who believes this garbage? He can barely put a dent in Ukraine.

  29. We have to keep in mind that “an Attack” quoted from the NATO agreements and contracts is defined in a lot of international laws and also statutes of the united nations etc.

    There will be written something probably about “combatants under the flag and command of a foreign nation etc.”

    When putin is coming up with some obfuscation bullshit like 2014 in Ukraine our petty politians will more likely discuss without solution whether the term “Attack” like stated in article 5 is given or not.

    Scenario can be similar to Ukraine: part of baltics proclamate an independet state out of the blue, russia sending weapons and personell under cover, the war is waging and nobody will be sure if the term “Attack” will be reached based on international law or not. Ressources will be destroyed and bound and russia will wash his hands in innocence. Especially if the military intelligence from the US giving up sharing information etc.

  30. Oh man, who is publishing such a bullshit? Did Russia ever attack a NATO country? Why would it? It’s the biggest country in the worlde with massive amounts of resources. It doesn’t gain anything from such a conflict.

  31. He will die long before then. i expect some hert attack thing within the next few months.

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