Hamas-Beamter sagt: „Keine Chance“, dass Geiseln nach Israel zurückkehren, nachdem Netanyahu den Deal ablehnt

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  1. For people curious the terms were:

    The release of a large number of prisoners

    Full withdrawal from Gaza

    Hamas to be left intact over Gaza

    To be honest I don’t necessarily blame Netanyahu for rejecting these terms. Hamas doesn’t have the leverage to make these demands outside of the hostages they took, they probably don’t have all of them and a number of them are probably dead already.

    This is not to say that the Israeli bombing campaign should continue, or that the deaths of Gazan’s are alright; simply that if I were in Netanyahu’s shoes I don’t think I’d take that deal either.

  2. Are they even still alive? Any sign of prove? Wouldn’t be surprised if they are all dead by murder or while bombing.
    And yes, the terms have been like Israel has to surrender, but now in some medias it looks like Israel is not willing to make peace.

  3. Hamas officials must understand that there is no scenario in which they survive this.

    Israel will never leave them alone now. Never.

    They fucked up big time.

  5. And I’m getting people thinking I’m an Israel supporter in another thread for pointing out that Hamas aren’t exactly trustworthy.

    I’d put a laughing smiley here if people didn’t get tortured to death by the very same group.

  6. Israel can’t negotiate on the hostages, especially when the demands are so over the top like Hamas’ are.

    The problem is it sends a very straightforward signal to future terrorists – more hostages, more concessions will get

    At a country level way, it becomes horrible yet simple math of the needs of the many in the future vs the needs of the few now.

  7. No, Israel rejected an ultimatum, not a deal. Any deal that doesn’t start with the immediate release of all hostages is a non-starter.

  8. As if there was ever a chance, here’s the reality, they were already dead, Hamas offer an awful deal knowing full well that Israel would never accept the terms, then use that to frame it as “well we extended the offer and you said no, so don’t blame us when they get blown up by a bomb” because we all know that’s the angle they will try to spin into.

  9. They should just agree to it, withdraw, get the hostages, then immediately break it and continue to steamroll Hamas.

    What is Hamas going to do, complain that Israel lied/cheated like it’s some crime? Hamas already committed hundreds of war crimes with the initial attack they made.

  10. Somehow I have a feeling that most of those who are still alive, which there are notably fewer than when all this started, are currently in a physical and mental state that brings to mind fates worse than death.

  11. This was not a “deal”, these are the proposed terms of Israel’s surrender and capitulation, “offered” by a losing side for PR and looks. Of course they are “rejected”.

  12. “We give up on the only thing holding Israel back, in an already pressed and shitty position”

    When Israel knocks on the last door in Gaza they’ll be like “You got any more of those peace deals?”

  13. Then, I guess, the only option left is to wipe Hamas out from the face of the earth.

  14. !TRADE OFFER!

    From: Hamas To: Israel

    I get: More Power and influence, my terrorists back, new opportunities to aquire weapons.

    You get: A few surviving civilians (and some dead ones’ bodies) i abducted after i massacred their friends and let ma bois torture and rape them, a worsened political situation, new immediate threats and more massacres and abductions in the future.

  15. “No chance” that official will be alive within 12-18 months.

  17. I mean, to be honest, you cannot negotiate with terrorist.
    Look at Afghanistan..they never gave up, and took over..what? Days later ? They are happy to live in a hole until their time has come.

  18. never like netanyahu, and Hamas managed to make him look like the reasonable one

  19. As an israeli this is an extremely difficult situation, from one side how could you let Hamas get away with what they have done especially knowing that they will try to do it again and i don’t even know how people are supposed to feel safe in the south, on the other side you have the hostages who are suffering and their families that are becoming more and more desperate to do whatever it takes to get their loved ones released.
    This is such a complex dilemma, no matter what you choose people will pay with their lives and their families will despise you for it.
    Either the hostages die or you let a terror organisation hold a country hostage, you can’t truly win

  21. Hamas murders a whole bunch of people, takes hostages, and then tries to call a time out- without actually releasing or agreeing to release the hostages.

    Anybody who would have taken that deal is an idiot.

  22. Israel should respond with “No chance Hamas, nor it’s supporters will be alive in 2 weeks”. And then commence with the bombing that they’ve been accused of for months.

  24. While the chance of this “deal” being accepted by Israel is obviously non-existent, it gives Hamas fuel for their propaganda. “See? We offered peace and Israel doesn’t want peace. They want to murder all Palestinian people!11!!1”. And their supporter base will believe it as they always blindly do.

  25. Maybe.. just maybe they should’ve added something along the lines of “we won’t take further hostages or attack again in the future” in their offer if their terms are literally that they get to continue existing, especially since they are quite vocal about repeating October 7th..

  26. In the first place, Hamas didn’t think that hostages would survive. They were only human shields to delay the IDF’s massive counteroffensive. Why did Hamas capture those hostages at the time? Hamas planned that if combatants obtained enough numbers of citizen hostages, they could have opportunities to put off the IDF’s striking. Basically, the terror group didn’t have to negotiate with Israel over the hostages’ release. Probably the group’s first objective in the war was to kill huge numbers of victims to grow people’s fear. Practically, they killed lots of unarmed citizens including kids and babies.

  27. “A Deal”. I’m not sure it means what they say it means.

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