Why would a tourist be carrying a little flag of their country around with them? Seems like they’re plants.
Lmao you can tell people havent been to UK unis lately or they’d recognise Mainlanders from a fucking mile away.
Theyre some of the worst people on earth. And yes I do generalise here.
They treat the Taiwanese and Hong Kong students, who are lovely incidentally, like dogs.Then call you racist if you criticise them.
They make no intergration effort at all. They will not say a word to you and if they do theyre going to be rude.
Chinese rich mainlander tourists think theyre the centre of the universe. They also dont understand why the police officer wont just do as theyre told since theyre high status individuals.
The woman officer needs a disciplinary.
There are Chinese spies/agents operating all over the UK. They aren’t James Bond style figures, they’re just ordinary people and they occasionally “forget” the rules.
She’s not stabbing a poisoned tipped umbrella into him or giving him polonium laced tea, she just wants to “idealise” the scene and wasn’t briefed/trained properly on what UK law allows.
I suspect a massive bollocking from her superiors will be on the cards.
Why is the fact that they are Chinese relevant to this story at all?
Oh it’s the Express, we know why.
I saw the video and I think all the Chinese wanted to do was to play on the piano and do some filming. They did not want Dr. K to film them which is fair enough. The whole argument seemed to blow up over a complete misunderstanding.
To be fair to them I wouldn’t want to be featured in some honky tonk prick’s shitty little clickbait video either.
Sorry to say… He has no right filming in public…. In China…..
However, in the UK, everyone has the right to film and photograph in public.
That guy baits the fuck out of them, calling Japanese and playing a racist meme song
I’m not trying to generalise, but these days, Chinese surely feel entitled.
If you waved union jacks round in China it won’t go down well? Wave union jacks round in Scotland it won’t go down well.
So many people jumping to conclusions here.
I am not going to justify all the behaviour of the Chinese here – especially the guy screaming out don’t touch her is a massive overreaction.
However, people are also being knee-jerk reactionary, and frankly I do think there’s a racial element here, and wouldn’t happen if they weren’t Chinese. The immediate assumption that they are CCP is frankly offensive.
The first woman initially approaches the pianist in quite a friendly manner, and, I think, is trying to explain, with imperfect English, that they are filming something for Chinese TV having signed a non-disclosure agreement – that **they** are not allowed to be on his camera. There could be many reasons for this – I think, for example, it’s quite possible they are filming a reality TV show/something else, where participants’ identities have been kept secret beforehand. They don’t ask the man to stop, they just ask (quite politely initially, I feel) if he can blur out their faces. The pianist is the one who becomes far more aggressive, essentially taking a pretty aggressive approach of “those aren’t the rules here love”, as well as, like many commentators, essentially assuming that they must be hostile “CCP” actors as soon as he sees the Chinese flags. Even if he’s right about the filming rules, that’s pretty unreasonable and I think contributes to the later hostility.
**Of course, and this is the crux of the matter, he isn’t right about the rules:** Firstly, unrestricted filming of people is not absolute, though it is broadly allowed in public spaces. However, train stations are not considered public spaces according to UK laws on filming rights. They are private spaces and subject to permission from station operators. St Pancras has guidelines on this here: [https://stpancras.com/filming-photography-and-events](https://stpancras.com/filming-photography-and-events). It doesn’t mean he’s definitely in the wrong, but it’s less clear than he was asserting.
**TL;DR:** Baseless speculation that they are “CCP” when it’s just as likely (maybe more likely) that they are a film crew, given they specifically mention an NDA; pianist is pretty needlessly combative in his approach; the Chinese then respond completely disproportionally.
fake stoked up fury, my favourite kind! so nourishing for the soul
“Tourists”
Look, I may expect 8/10 American tourists to be wearing at least one item of clothing with an American flag on it, but standing in a train station waving a flag? Nah. No way these are just chill Chinese tourists casually draping themselves in nationalistic garb and waving flags in a busy public space.
The people bothering the pianist are fucking clowns. He was just playing the piano and they could have fucking moved
I am Chinese. While I won’t say I haven’t seen this sort of behaviour before (entitlement), it is very odd from the Chinese gentleman here. I don’t quite understand why he is so insistent on the law that he does not know or arguing about it in general. Something is missing from the story – is he scared his face will reveal something? So bizarre. The British man is a little creepy too when he makes fun of the woman’s accent but correct to stand up for himself. He’s not purposely filming them – they come to him at the public piano. If they don’t want to be filmed, why not just move? At least the shouty Chinese man will go back with his entourage being fully embarrassed (we hope).
Tried to get some clarity on this topic regarding UK laws on filming in public, so out of curiosity I asked Microsoft Copilot the following:
Question: What are the UK laws on filming within a public place or space
* *Section 43 of the Terrorism Act 2000: Officers have the power to stop and search a person who they reasonably suspect to be a terrorist. The purpose of the stop and search is to discover whether that person has in their possession anything which may constitute evidence that they are a terrorist*[*1*](https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/photography-advice/)*.*
* *Section 58A of the Terrorism Act 2000: Covers the offence of eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members of the armed forces, intelligence services or police where the information is, by its very nature, designed to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism*[*1*](https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/photography-advice/)*.*
*It’s important to note that many seemingly public places such as malls are in fact privately owned, and you’ll have to follow the rules that they have put in place*[*2*](https://recordinglaw.com/recording-laws-uk/)*. Also, be careful about filming in “prohibited places” without permission, such as military establishments, aircraft and ships, most airports, naval dockyards, and many telecommunications centres*[*3*](https://www.theiac.org.uk/resourcesnew/filming-in-public/filming-in-public.html)*.*
*’we require that any professional photography or filming in our public areas are applied for via the processes below so that we can discuss your request with you.’*
Reading further down the page then goes on to specifically mention the ‘Public Pianos’, which states:
*’As primarily the pianos are for general enjoyment, we ask that anyone wishing to perform, photograph or film at the pianos for commercial gain, apply to use it for this purpose via the same form and contacts as below. This allows us to manage the pianos in a fair way, ensuring that the public can continue to tinkle the ivories for enjoyment as they pass through, but also allows us to give you the appropriate support needed for your activity should you need it for commercial reasons.’*
This basically reads like anyone may film at the Pianos and need not apply to use it, so long as it is not for commercial gain. So no problem if Dr K Boogie Woogie isn’t making commercial gain from playing the piano at St Pancras International.
I thought they came across as trolling him for their own channel. You can see one of them with a camera. Everyone seems to be falling for it though
God, imagine if foreigners started imposing non British values and cultural norms in any area they pleased. Wouldn’t that be just AWFUL? Shame it never happens.
At the start the woman said they were from ‘Chinese TV’. They seemed to assume they had data privacy rights over who could use any filmed content. Situation inflamed by the dickhead overreacting and screaming allegations about racism and sexual assault
Can we arrest these agents? They’re the same agents who work in those “overseas police stations” to check on if Chinese expats are saying even the slightest thing about their so great communist party. Any agent affiliated with an authoritarian regime should be allowed to harass or spread their backwards indoctrinated ideology on our streets. It’s not a good look and in fact it’s a terrible look when you look at liz truss’ recent revelation as well as David Cameron’s conflict of interest in office. We have enough wannabe communists in this country especially in my age group of 20-30 that is actually sad, so called freedom fighters who’ve never struggled a day in their life are calling for communism. Although, this is not a new trend in the west, it should be a dying trend though, not an uptick
A reanimated corpse, her mongrel and a gaggle of simple children. I hope we get many more angles of this altercation.
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Doesn’t sound like tourists. Sounds more like people hired by the embassy.
Welcome to the future guys, when China takes over this will be the way.
Anyone got a link to the actual video? The express website gives my phone some kind of epilepsy
original video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65iwnI2hjAA
Why would a tourist be carrying a little flag of their country around with them? Seems like they’re plants.
Lmao you can tell people havent been to UK unis lately or they’d recognise Mainlanders from a fucking mile away.
Theyre some of the worst people on earth. And yes I do generalise here.
They treat the Taiwanese and Hong Kong students, who are lovely incidentally, like dogs.Then call you racist if you criticise them.
They make no intergration effort at all. They will not say a word to you and if they do theyre going to be rude.
Chinese rich mainlander tourists think theyre the centre of the universe. They also dont understand why the police officer wont just do as theyre told since theyre high status individuals.
The woman officer needs a disciplinary.
There are Chinese spies/agents operating all over the UK. They aren’t James Bond style figures, they’re just ordinary people and they occasionally “forget” the rules.
She’s not stabbing a poisoned tipped umbrella into him or giving him polonium laced tea, she just wants to “idealise” the scene and wasn’t briefed/trained properly on what UK law allows.
I suspect a massive bollocking from her superiors will be on the cards.
Why is the fact that they are Chinese relevant to this story at all?
Oh it’s the Express, we know why.
I saw the video and I think all the Chinese wanted to do was to play on the piano and do some filming. They did not want Dr. K to film them which is fair enough. The whole argument seemed to blow up over a complete misunderstanding.
To be fair to them I wouldn’t want to be featured in some honky tonk prick’s shitty little clickbait video either.
Sorry to say… He has no right filming in public…. In China…..
However, in the UK, everyone has the right to film and photograph in public.
That guy baits the fuck out of them, calling Japanese and playing a racist meme song
I’m not trying to generalise, but these days, Chinese surely feel entitled.
If you waved union jacks round in China it won’t go down well? Wave union jacks round in Scotland it won’t go down well.
So many people jumping to conclusions here.
I am not going to justify all the behaviour of the Chinese here – especially the guy screaming out don’t touch her is a massive overreaction.
However, people are also being knee-jerk reactionary, and frankly I do think there’s a racial element here, and wouldn’t happen if they weren’t Chinese. The immediate assumption that they are CCP is frankly offensive.
The first woman initially approaches the pianist in quite a friendly manner, and, I think, is trying to explain, with imperfect English, that they are filming something for Chinese TV having signed a non-disclosure agreement – that **they** are not allowed to be on his camera. There could be many reasons for this – I think, for example, it’s quite possible they are filming a reality TV show/something else, where participants’ identities have been kept secret beforehand. They don’t ask the man to stop, they just ask (quite politely initially, I feel) if he can blur out their faces. The pianist is the one who becomes far more aggressive, essentially taking a pretty aggressive approach of “those aren’t the rules here love”, as well as, like many commentators, essentially assuming that they must be hostile “CCP” actors as soon as he sees the Chinese flags. Even if he’s right about the filming rules, that’s pretty unreasonable and I think contributes to the later hostility.
**Of course, and this is the crux of the matter, he isn’t right about the rules:** Firstly, unrestricted filming of people is not absolute, though it is broadly allowed in public spaces. However, train stations are not considered public spaces according to UK laws on filming rights. They are private spaces and subject to permission from station operators. St Pancras has guidelines on this here: [https://stpancras.com/filming-photography-and-events](https://stpancras.com/filming-photography-and-events). It doesn’t mean he’s definitely in the wrong, but it’s less clear than he was asserting.
**TL;DR:** Baseless speculation that they are “CCP” when it’s just as likely (maybe more likely) that they are a film crew, given they specifically mention an NDA; pianist is pretty needlessly combative in his approach; the Chinese then respond completely disproportionally.
fake stoked up fury, my favourite kind! so nourishing for the soul
“Tourists”
Look, I may expect 8/10 American tourists to be wearing at least one item of clothing with an American flag on it, but standing in a train station waving a flag? Nah. No way these are just chill Chinese tourists casually draping themselves in nationalistic garb and waving flags in a busy public space.
The people bothering the pianist are fucking clowns. He was just playing the piano and they could have fucking moved
I am Chinese. While I won’t say I haven’t seen this sort of behaviour before (entitlement), it is very odd from the Chinese gentleman here. I don’t quite understand why he is so insistent on the law that he does not know or arguing about it in general. Something is missing from the story – is he scared his face will reveal something? So bizarre. The British man is a little creepy too when he makes fun of the woman’s accent but correct to stand up for himself. He’s not purposely filming them – they come to him at the public piano. If they don’t want to be filmed, why not just move? At least the shouty Chinese man will go back with his entourage being fully embarrassed (we hope).
Tried to get some clarity on this topic regarding UK laws on filming in public, so out of curiosity I asked Microsoft Copilot the following:
Question: What are the UK laws on filming within a public place or space
Answer:
*In the UK, members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places, and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel* [*1*](https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/photography-advice/)*. However, there are some exceptions related to the Terrorism Act 2000*[*1*](https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/photography-advice/)*:*
* *Section 43 of the Terrorism Act 2000: Officers have the power to stop and search a person who they reasonably suspect to be a terrorist. The purpose of the stop and search is to discover whether that person has in their possession anything which may constitute evidence that they are a terrorist*[*1*](https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/photography-advice/)*.*
* *Section 58A of the Terrorism Act 2000: Covers the offence of eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members of the armed forces, intelligence services or police where the information is, by its very nature, designed to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism*[*1*](https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/photography-advice/)*.*
*It’s important to note that many seemingly public places such as malls are in fact privately owned, and you’ll have to follow the rules that they have put in place*[*2*](https://recordinglaw.com/recording-laws-uk/)*. Also, be careful about filming in “prohibited places” without permission, such as military establishments, aircraft and ships, most airports, naval dockyards, and many telecommunications centres*[*3*](https://www.theiac.org.uk/resourcesnew/filming-in-public/filming-in-public.html)*.*
*Always cooperate with the authorities and follow any advice given by them. If a police officer insists that you stop filming, then do so. There may be security issues of which you are unaware*[*3*](https://www.theiac.org.uk/resourcesnew/filming-in-public/filming-in-public.html)*.*
​
Then I checked the venue website (St Pancras) for info on filming [4](https://stpancras.com/filming-photography-and-events). Their webpage states:
*’we require that any professional photography or filming in our public areas are applied for via the processes below so that we can discuss your request with you.’*
Reading further down the page then goes on to specifically mention the ‘Public Pianos’, which states:
*’As primarily the pianos are for general enjoyment, we ask that anyone wishing to perform, photograph or film at the pianos for commercial gain, apply to use it for this purpose via the same form and contacts as below. This allows us to manage the pianos in a fair way, ensuring that the public can continue to tinkle the ivories for enjoyment as they pass through, but also allows us to give you the appropriate support needed for your activity should you need it for commercial reasons.’*
This basically reads like anyone may film at the Pianos and need not apply to use it, so long as it is not for commercial gain. So no problem if Dr K Boogie Woogie isn’t making commercial gain from playing the piano at St Pancras International.
I thought they came across as trolling him for their own channel. You can see one of them with a camera. Everyone seems to be falling for it though
God, imagine if foreigners started imposing non British values and cultural norms in any area they pleased. Wouldn’t that be just AWFUL? Shame it never happens.
At the start the woman said they were from ‘Chinese TV’. They seemed to assume they had data privacy rights over who could use any filmed content. Situation inflamed by the dickhead overreacting and screaming allegations about racism and sexual assault
Can we arrest these agents? They’re the same agents who work in those “overseas police stations” to check on if Chinese expats are saying even the slightest thing about their so great communist party. Any agent affiliated with an authoritarian regime should be allowed to harass or spread their backwards indoctrinated ideology on our streets. It’s not a good look and in fact it’s a terrible look when you look at liz truss’ recent revelation as well as David Cameron’s conflict of interest in office. We have enough wannabe communists in this country especially in my age group of 20-30 that is actually sad, so called freedom fighters who’ve never struggled a day in their life are calling for communism. Although, this is not a new trend in the west, it should be a dying trend though, not an uptick
A reanimated corpse, her mongrel and a gaggle of simple children. I hope we get many more angles of this altercation.