Republican politicians in Kentucky are rallying behind a new bill that would authorize the use of force—and potentially deadly force—against unhoused people who are found to be camping on private property. The bill would also criminalize unsanctioned homeless encampments and restrict cities and towns from preempting state laws.
[The bill](https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/24rs/hb5.html#actions), known as the “Safer Kentucky Act,” or HB5, would target homelessness, drug possession and mental illness by drastically increasing criminal penalties for a range of offenses. Introduced last week by Republican state representative Jared Bauman, it already has 52 sponsors in Kentucky’s House of Representatives. A vote is scheduled for this week.
In addition, it says that “deadly physical force” is justifiable if a defendant believes that someone is trying to “dispossess” them of their property or is attempting a robbery or committing arson, language that could also have ramifications for tenants overstaying their lease.
There are a lot of fun, beautiful things in Kentucky. But it’s now another state I will not be spending any money in.
It’s illegal to be poor you know. Soon they will bring back debtor’s prisons. In effect it’s already happening.
Red State = 3rd world.
Just as Jesus would have done!
Republicans want a nation of Kyle Rittenhouses. They want civil war. Scum.
And Republicans wonder why everyone hates them and they have to cheat the system to win.
Dear God. This can only lead to a rash of killings where nutjobs claim the person was “being homeless” on their property. How disturbed can these lunatics be??
Wait, you mean to tell me that there’s homeless people in a deep red state like Kentucky? But Faux News is always saying that they’re all in New York, Chicago, San Francisco, and Seattle!
Instead of trying to solve a problem, like homelessness and drug addiction, they’re trying to give permission to get those people killed.
Is this a manifestation of the “death squads” that Republicans were scare-mongering about many moons ago?
Every day I get more and more shocked by how fucked the USA is. God help you all.
Safer Kentucky for who? Cuz it’s certainly not for the homeless people.
But taxpayer funded government housing is “Reckless government spending” and “why should MY tax dollars blah blah blah”.
Like, really? THIS is the better solution?
America is so fucked up, homeless people everywhere means something is wrong with the system.
Instead of working on fixing it, we criminalize the victims of it.
Overused word but the dystopia is real.
>“deadly physical force” is justifiable if a defendant believes that someone is trying to “dispossess” them of their property or is attempting a robbery or committing arson, language that could also have ramifications for tenants overstaying their lease.
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“I was afraid for my property” will be the new “I was afraid for my life” murder defense. As if that wasn’t already bad enough.
the cruelty and hate are a feature of the gop, not a bug
I used to be mocked as alarmist that republicans and their supporters were not so secretly harboring murder fantasies by their massive expansion of gun proliferation, expanded castle laws, expanded rights of defensive shootings where a fender bender or a fistfight would be grounds for legalized murder.
So I’ll say it again now and see what happens.republicans and their supporters harbor not so secret murder fantasies. We can now group the poor into people they masturbate to when thinking about killing them
Republicans are “devout Christians”, and would Jesus approve of this? They are the definition of pure evil, nothing more nothing less.
So property is higher on the pole than human life to the pro life
Like the saying goes:
“Who would Jesus shoot?”
‘pro life’ party showing they just want to kill again.
Because good christians in Kentucky follow scripture where it says: “people who are homeless are a drag and should be murdered”.
Next step is to round them up into concentration camps along with anyone else they don’t like at the moment.
thank the fucking lord i left the south
what happened to “pro-life”???
“… and restrict cities and towns from preempting state laws.”
The party of local small government everyone!
On a side note, as I read this, I keep recalling back to a moment in April 2020, I was on Facebook and left a comment on a news article expressing distrust at how gun sales were increasing in the early pandemic and was given the usual “oh so when you cannot defend your family and yourself from South Centra bangers don’t come crying to us, they’ll enjoy you with your hair since it looks like a woman’s” since in my profile picture I had long hair and was growing out a beard. And I can already hear those guys loving this, and immediately shutting anyone critical of it with “oh so you want to be stabbed in your home, good luck”, it’s always that manner it seems.
Anyway, something else in the article:
>The bill contains many hallmarks of a template produced by the Cicero Institute, a libertarian think tank founded by Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, which has been drafting and lobbying for anti-homeless bills across the country. Cicero’s model legislation criminalizes public camping and restricts funding for evidence-based permanent supportive housing. (An earlier version of the Kentucky bill restricted federal funding to permanent supportive housing if it did not mandate treatment, but that provision was removed after criticism.)
Lonsdale, who worked with Peter Thiel, et., I had more but, I’m exhausted.
This is a back door to using violence against tenants that organize against landlords.
Exactly what Jesus would do.
This is what the Republicans are all about.
Rich folk killing off the poor.
How quickly will they go from just legalizing the killing of homeless people to making it illegal to *not* kill them?
Is homelessness a huge problem in red states like Kentucky?
Or is this a reactionary bill simply because it’s a hot topic these days and legislators want to score some points with their base.
For the longest time the joke was “Republicans are to the Right of Shooting the Homeless for sport”
…and, here we are.
What you do to the least of these you also do to me.
‘I tell you the truth, **whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me**.’
Why. Just why. Why do they want this. What does anyone stand to gain from this. I’m so fucking tired of this stupid bullshit. This is insanity.
Republicans are PRO life right? Right? Right?!
I’m sure those are the same people who claim that there is no class warfare in the US
I knew it; they want to hunt the poors for sport.
I have been homeless. I was incredibly lucky to find a church run shelter to take me in, but I saw many turned away from the same shelter. Where did those people go? The city parks, mostly, or wooded areas on commercial property. Some of them probably did end up camping on private property. KY now plans to empower property owners to *kill* those people and use the flimsy excuse that they ‘felt threatened’. And I thought SC was a backwards hellhole.
Most gun nuts I know, even ones I considered friends and good people for the most part, have this fantasy where they can shoot someone without repercussions. I’d imagine killing a homeless person is something every right leaning wealthy person dreams about.
Kentucky, just like Nazi German. Kentucky doesn’t take that as an insult because that is their intention.
Party of death cruelty and fake Christianity
We need to undo all the damage done by squatter’s “rights”, but this is a few steps way too fucking far in the wrong direction.
Idk how we’re supposed to read stories like this and NOT react in a way that would get us banned from Reddit. This is beyond cruel and depressing.
How can someone be so shitty in their hearts. It’s like they’re trying their hardest to give the teachings of Jesus the middle finger. I don’t get it.
8.5% of veterans in Kentucky live in Poverty, 328 veterans are currently identified as homeless by the HUD. I guess if they can’t help us they found a solution to off us legally again.
These Republican statewide representatives must just sit on their toilet while they’re taking a crap,and wonder who can l fuck over today. Really I’m starting to believe this.
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From reporter Roshan Abraham:
Republican politicians in Kentucky are rallying behind a new bill that would authorize the use of force—and potentially deadly force—against unhoused people who are found to be camping on private property. The bill would also criminalize unsanctioned homeless encampments and restrict cities and towns from preempting state laws.
[The bill](https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/24rs/hb5.html#actions), known as the “Safer Kentucky Act,” or HB5, would target homelessness, drug possession and mental illness by drastically increasing criminal penalties for a range of offenses. Introduced last week by Republican state representative Jared Bauman, it already has 52 sponsors in Kentucky’s House of Representatives. A vote is scheduled for this week.
In addition, it says that “deadly physical force” is justifiable if a defendant believes that someone is trying to “dispossess” them of their property or is attempting a robbery or committing arson, language that could also have ramifications for tenants overstaying their lease.
Link to the full article: [https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg54mg/republicans-push-to-legalize-property-owners-killing-homeless-people-in-kentucky](https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg54mg/republicans-push-to-legalize-property-owners-killing-homeless-people-in-kentucky)
There are a lot of fun, beautiful things in Kentucky. But it’s now another state I will not be spending any money in.
It’s illegal to be poor you know. Soon they will bring back debtor’s prisons. In effect it’s already happening.
Red State = 3rd world.
Just as Jesus would have done!
Republicans want a nation of Kyle Rittenhouses. They want civil war. Scum.
And Republicans wonder why everyone hates them and they have to cheat the system to win.
Dear God. This can only lead to a rash of killings where nutjobs claim the person was “being homeless” on their property. How disturbed can these lunatics be??
Wait, you mean to tell me that there’s homeless people in a deep red state like Kentucky? But Faux News is always saying that they’re all in New York, Chicago, San Francisco, and Seattle!
Instead of trying to solve a problem, like homelessness and drug addiction, they’re trying to give permission to get those people killed.
Is this a manifestation of the “death squads” that Republicans were scare-mongering about many moons ago?
Every day I get more and more shocked by how fucked the USA is. God help you all.
Safer Kentucky for who? Cuz it’s certainly not for the homeless people.
But taxpayer funded government housing is “Reckless government spending” and “why should MY tax dollars blah blah blah”.
Like, really? THIS is the better solution?
America is so fucked up, homeless people everywhere means something is wrong with the system.
Instead of working on fixing it, we criminalize the victims of it.
Overused word but the dystopia is real.
>“deadly physical force” is justifiable if a defendant believes that someone is trying to “dispossess” them of their property or is attempting a robbery or committing arson, language that could also have ramifications for tenants overstaying their lease.
​
“I was afraid for my property” will be the new “I was afraid for my life” murder defense. As if that wasn’t already bad enough.
the cruelty and hate are a feature of the gop, not a bug
I used to be mocked as alarmist that republicans and their supporters were not so secretly harboring murder fantasies by their massive expansion of gun proliferation, expanded castle laws, expanded rights of defensive shootings where a fender bender or a fistfight would be grounds for legalized murder.
So I’ll say it again now and see what happens.republicans and their supporters harbor not so secret murder fantasies. We can now group the poor into people they masturbate to when thinking about killing them
Republicans are “devout Christians”, and would Jesus approve of this? They are the definition of pure evil, nothing more nothing less.
So property is higher on the pole than human life to the pro life
Like the saying goes:
“Who would Jesus shoot?”
‘pro life’ party showing they just want to kill again.
Because good christians in Kentucky follow scripture where it says: “people who are homeless are a drag and should be murdered”.
Next step is to round them up into concentration camps along with anyone else they don’t like at the moment.
thank the fucking lord i left the south
what happened to “pro-life”???
“… and restrict cities and towns from preempting state laws.”
The party of local small government everyone!
On a side note, as I read this, I keep recalling back to a moment in April 2020, I was on Facebook and left a comment on a news article expressing distrust at how gun sales were increasing in the early pandemic and was given the usual “oh so when you cannot defend your family and yourself from South Centra bangers don’t come crying to us, they’ll enjoy you with your hair since it looks like a woman’s” since in my profile picture I had long hair and was growing out a beard. And I can already hear those guys loving this, and immediately shutting anyone critical of it with “oh so you want to be stabbed in your home, good luck”, it’s always that manner it seems.
Anyway, something else in the article:
>The bill contains many hallmarks of a template produced by the Cicero Institute, a libertarian think tank founded by Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, which has been drafting and lobbying for anti-homeless bills across the country. Cicero’s model legislation criminalizes public camping and restricts funding for evidence-based permanent supportive housing. (An earlier version of the Kentucky bill restricted federal funding to permanent supportive housing if it did not mandate treatment, but that provision was removed after criticism.)
Lonsdale, who worked with Peter Thiel, et., I had more but, I’m exhausted.
This is a back door to using violence against tenants that organize against landlords.
Exactly what Jesus would do.
This is what the Republicans are all about.
Rich folk killing off the poor.
How quickly will they go from just legalizing the killing of homeless people to making it illegal to *not* kill them?
Is homelessness a huge problem in red states like Kentucky?
Or is this a reactionary bill simply because it’s a hot topic these days and legislators want to score some points with their base.
For the longest time the joke was “Republicans are to the Right of Shooting the Homeless for sport”
…and, here we are.
What you do to the least of these you also do to me.
‘I tell you the truth, **whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me**.’
Why. Just why. Why do they want this. What does anyone stand to gain from this. I’m so fucking tired of this stupid bullshit. This is insanity.
Republicans are PRO life right? Right? Right?!
I’m sure those are the same people who claim that there is no class warfare in the US
I knew it; they want to hunt the poors for sport.
I have been homeless. I was incredibly lucky to find a church run shelter to take me in, but I saw many turned away from the same shelter. Where did those people go? The city parks, mostly, or wooded areas on commercial property. Some of them probably did end up camping on private property. KY now plans to empower property owners to *kill* those people and use the flimsy excuse that they ‘felt threatened’. And I thought SC was a backwards hellhole.
Most gun nuts I know, even ones I considered friends and good people for the most part, have this fantasy where they can shoot someone without repercussions. I’d imagine killing a homeless person is something every right leaning wealthy person dreams about.
Kentucky, just like Nazi German. Kentucky doesn’t take that as an insult because that is their intention.
Party of death cruelty and fake Christianity
We need to undo all the damage done by squatter’s “rights”, but this is a few steps way too fucking far in the wrong direction.
Idk how we’re supposed to read stories like this and NOT react in a way that would get us banned from Reddit. This is beyond cruel and depressing.
How can someone be so shitty in their hearts. It’s like they’re trying their hardest to give the teachings of Jesus the middle finger. I don’t get it.
8.5% of veterans in Kentucky live in Poverty, 328 veterans are currently identified as homeless by the HUD. I guess if they can’t help us they found a solution to off us legally again.
These Republican statewide representatives must just sit on their toilet while they’re taking a crap,and wonder who can l fuck over today. Really I’m starting to believe this.