While the current system is broken – i think there is merit in the public having a say in the planning process. Perhaps a new system would somehow filter out the vexatious objections without causing huuuge delays to important projects.
We need permissive planning laws. Does your plan fit into the regulations required? No one can complain, build away. It would need strong regulations and sensible planning/zoning/public transport, and that’s why it will never happen
Can they name the person objecting? It’s not in the article.
The lad objecting is a retired property developer who lives in the area. He’s either looking for a payout or has land/property interests in the area or doesn’t want more traffic on the roads there.
pathetic
It’s a pity the locals never got to see the grounds after everyone moved, when I worked there it was like a little nature reserve full of foxes, badgers, owls and ancient native trees, the garden project at the back of the site had polytunnels full of tomatoes and chills, smelt like roses during the summer. So silent during night shifts except for the ding ding of a luas from about half five. It honestly was beautiful.
Our planning system is a fucking joke. This is the second time they’ve shit the bed in Dundrum too.
Last year some ladder pulling shitebag living on Sweetmount Avenue organised a massive campaign of disinformation on Facebook to try and derail the redevelopment of the old shopping centre into apartments and a civic centre, all so he doesn’t get a shadow on his fecking driveway. He had the gall to put up a post looking for rooms to host students the other day, so clearly the irony of all that is entirely lost on the dumb bastard.
Really poor headline
It’s not a planning objection/observation that is holding up the project it’s a judicial review.
Absent an explanation as to the basis of the objection this is just rage bait.
Planning permission is not refused based on the number of objections (not the term ordinarily used) and to imply that is misleading.
Nobody is waiting for planning permission. There’s three years worth already given and ready for someone to dig a hole.
We need a law that would make objectors liable for costs if their objection is dismissed. Objections based on devaluation of property should be tossed at the first stage of the process.
“Initially, the LDA planned to deliver 1,200 new housing units, including a 14-storey apartment block.
However, following public consultation, the height was scaled back to 11-storeys.
This was then further reduced to seven-storeys when permission was sought in March 2022.
The number of housing units was also reduced from over 1,200 to 852.”
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I just don’t understand the objections to tall apartment buildings. They’re more sustainable and space efficient. And as long as they are well planned they can be a boon to the whole community.
That’s not Dundrum, that seems to be Churchtown, considered an affluent suburb which in reality has nothing beside some modest houses and a couple of semi-derelict chippers. Residents shopping at Costcutter. A tiny one lane per way road going to Milltown. And they want to build 800 apartments there, probably built for rent? Total madness. Around Dundrum shopping centre would be a much better choice – demolish the old shopping centre and build adjacent to the mall.
A single NIMBY putting 852 families out of housing… How the fuck is this legal? Lawmakers need to step the fuck up and put an end to this nonsense.
How is a property developer allowed to object to another development? Ridiculous!
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Typical.
While the current system is broken – i think there is merit in the public having a say in the planning process. Perhaps a new system would somehow filter out the vexatious objections without causing huuuge delays to important projects.
We need permissive planning laws. Does your plan fit into the regulations required? No one can complain, build away. It would need strong regulations and sensible planning/zoning/public transport, and that’s why it will never happen
Can they name the person objecting? It’s not in the article.
The lad objecting is a retired property developer who lives in the area. He’s either looking for a payout or has land/property interests in the area or doesn’t want more traffic on the roads there.
pathetic
It’s a pity the locals never got to see the grounds after everyone moved, when I worked there it was like a little nature reserve full of foxes, badgers, owls and ancient native trees, the garden project at the back of the site had polytunnels full of tomatoes and chills, smelt like roses during the summer. So silent during night shifts except for the ding ding of a luas from about half five. It honestly was beautiful.
Our planning system is a fucking joke. This is the second time they’ve shit the bed in Dundrum too.
Last year some ladder pulling shitebag living on Sweetmount Avenue organised a massive campaign of disinformation on Facebook to try and derail the redevelopment of the old shopping centre into apartments and a civic centre, all so he doesn’t get a shadow on his fecking driveway. He had the gall to put up a post looking for rooms to host students the other day, so clearly the irony of all that is entirely lost on the dumb bastard.
Really poor headline
It’s not a planning objection/observation that is holding up the project it’s a judicial review.
Absent an explanation as to the basis of the objection this is just rage bait.
Planning permission is not refused based on the number of objections (not the term ordinarily used) and to imply that is misleading.
Nobody is waiting for planning permission. There’s three years worth already given and ready for someone to dig a hole.
Is it this guy?
https://www.facebook.com/DundrumResident
We need a law that would make objectors liable for costs if their objection is dismissed. Objections based on devaluation of property should be tossed at the first stage of the process.
“Initially, the LDA planned to deliver 1,200 new housing units, including a 14-storey apartment block.
However, following public consultation, the height was scaled back to 11-storeys.
This was then further reduced to seven-storeys when permission was sought in March 2022.
The number of housing units was also reduced from over 1,200 to 852.”
​
I just don’t understand the objections to tall apartment buildings. They’re more sustainable and space efficient. And as long as they are well planned they can be a boon to the whole community.
That’s not Dundrum, that seems to be Churchtown, considered an affluent suburb which in reality has nothing beside some modest houses and a couple of semi-derelict chippers. Residents shopping at Costcutter. A tiny one lane per way road going to Milltown. And they want to build 800 apartments there, probably built for rent? Total madness. Around Dundrum shopping centre would be a much better choice – demolish the old shopping centre and build adjacent to the mall.
A single NIMBY putting 852 families out of housing… How the fuck is this legal? Lawmakers need to step the fuck up and put an end to this nonsense.
How is a property developer allowed to object to another development? Ridiculous!