The Republican party as a whole is so effing dumb for going along with this trump con job. I hope they dissolve into the abyss. Only problem when things like the Republican party dissolve, they reappear in another form usually worse.
When the race becomes about Trump, Biden wins.
Trump is an insurrectionist, he’s not qualified to hold office anymore. The word “unelectable” comes to mind.
He lost in 2020 after his abysmal presidency and now he’s facing 91 felonies across 4 indictments. He hasn’t gained any new supporters, in fact hundreds of thousands of them died thanks to his spread of misinformation and handling of the pandemic.
If he somehow makes it to the November election, he’s going to lose by even more than he did in 2020.
If you support Trump you aren’t a moderate. Moderate does not mean average.
I want to push back on this headline a bit. The article cites a bunch of people who never would have voted for trump including independents and Haley supporters. I wouldn’t say he’s actively bleeding support, it’s support he had never and will never get simply by being who he is. Semantics maybe?
I predict the GOP will fracture after the 2024 election.
All of this will be due to the compounding effects of what they’ve done to our country but Dobbs is the canary in the coal mine and we are going to see a decisive rejection of MAGA and they will turn on each other.
Is he bleeding moderates faster than moderation itself is hemorrhaging?
Let’s fucking hope
I read history, and this entire mess reminds me a lot about Andrew Jackson’s presidency.
The culture and etiquette during his presidency also hit rock bottom, with drunken parties, buying of votes, and even fistfights happening even in congress. I know Tramp indolises the man, but one just had to look at the number of crisises, scandals and overall chaos during his presidency, make the comparison to Tramp, and get people got run against him.
The is a reason why Jackson is sometimes considered as one of the worst presidents in the history of US, and Tramp seems to be trying to be even worse. Best case scenario, he will drag Republican Party to hell with him, worst case scenario, he will turn America into hell. Please vote blue people.
Hope it does. I’m not counting on it. Vote!
I blame all the forts that everyone seems to be upset about
no one who still supports him is any kind of moderate. He may be turning away uncommitted traitors and contrarians.
How could he bleed support he never had?
My most optimistic take on how the election will pan out vs. 2016 is that a reasonable chunk of people who voted for Trump hoping for the best, hoping for someone different, kidding themselves he wasn’t the shitstain he is…now know better. Sure he’s got his rabid cult and a lot of Republicans will just vote for whoever’s on the ticket, but the old adage about 40% of people always voting Democrat, 40% always voting Republican, and 20% make the difference hopefully holds true. Turnout will be the deciding factor, and that could go both ways – people desperate for Trump might get matched by the people desperate not to have him again.
Apparently the Republican Party saw what happened in 2020 and then again at the mid terms and went “what a great strategy that was, we had so much success with voters we desperately need like independents, moderates, and undecided voters running absolutely terrible and toxic candidates, let’s run it back!”
Just voluntarily walking over an electoral cliff at this point.
The lies are getting tiresome. What exactly have they done to make America a better place for everyone?
You ain’t moderate if you vote for that guy or even considered to vote for that guy.
Anyone supporting Trump can’t be considered “moderate”.
Screw these articles. Vote dammit
News for anyone voting Trump: you ain’t a moderate
Trump had no moderate support to begin with.
Trump has came out as full dictator.
I suspect he will lose most moderates.
24-28 needs to see a third party rise up from both centrist sides.
The Republican party of today is not even conservative anymore. They have been pushed aside by the radical MAGA party. They have no place anymore and just vote Red because they feel no other choice.
I’m a moderate. I want the best people in office, who can incrementally fix the big issues, defend our values, and not listen to the fanatical lunacy emanating from the far right and far left wings of our political universe.
I want safety for everyone, well funded education systems, equality of outcomes, sensible drug laws, good jobs and training options for everyone, a secure border with humane ways for people to immigrate into the country, and a strong military capable of standing up to the authoritarian countries and terrorist organizations plaguing the Earth.
I believe in electing the best person for the job.
And that means I will never vote Republican ever again. The only way to protect our nation, our constitution, and our population from the whims of the oligarchy and fundamentalists is now to vote blue no matter who.
I’ve never seen such disgusting moral cowardice as comes from Republicans. Straight up and down, from the lowest backwater red state voter all the way up on high to every single presidential candidate running in this primary. The era of John McCain and Mitt Romney is over. Republicans have been remade to look like anti-American psychopathic traitors.
They spit on our values. They’re actively trying to destroy our country. Fuck them. BLUE NO MATTER WHO.
No such thing as a moderate Trump supporter.
Any “moderate” that was willing to vote for him at any point in the last four years is not a moderate at all.
Are these “moderates” in the room with us right now?
>who backed Trump in 2016 and 2020. “I voted for him, and I didn’t realize he’s as corrupt as he is.”
Dude… if you asked me about Trump’s character in *2000*, I could have told you this guy is too corrupt to be a president. How did you blindly stumble into not just one, but two elections, in which he was even boldly corrupt in both campaigns?
If you’re not in the cult then you’re not voting for this guy. The moderates who voted for him in 2016 was because they wanted to see the experiment of having an outsider in the White House. In 2020, many of them were over that experiment. By Jan 6th, even more of them were never going to vote for that guy again. Since then, it has only gotten worse for Trump. You thought he lost bad last time, just wait for this election.
This is slightly misleading. Trump does not have moderate support. Trump support is, by definition, violent extremism.
If you support Trump, you’re not moderate. Literally that simple.
I have a feeling suburban women are going to bury any chances he ever had
I don’t understand how anyone describing themselves as moderate would support him in the first place.
The idea that anyone who ever even began to consider voting for him could be considered a “moderate” is a sick joke.
What moderate is still supporting Trump? Can’t be a real moderate. The GOP is extremist.
He shouldn’t even be allowed to run. This whole spectacle is ridiculous.
Trump got 74 million votes in 2020. That number is not shrinking in 2024.
Joe Biden won the EC vote by 60,000. It’s a fucked up system but Republicans haven’t won a popular vote since 2004, but can win the presidentcy with just a few votes in key areas.
What’s equally fucked is the census gave heavy +2 extra EC votes to solid Republican states.
A moderate who votes Trump is not a moderate..
How in the absolute fuck do moderates see Trump as a viable option?
You can’t be a moderate and support an insurrectionist. That’s not what moderate means.
I hate how much the Overton window has shifted. This is not rational. That orange rapist shouldn’t be allowed to run for office. He shouldn’t even be allowed outside a jail cell after everything he did.
‘His current campaign’ ?
What has he done to campaign? He hasn’t given a platform, no participation in debates, no answering questions.
If the voters are accepting of this, that’s just sad.
All we’ve seen of him is court appearances and angry online rants.
Ah yes, the insurrectionist moderates
“It could cost him the 2024 election”
Rly? What about the insurrection? The intentional tearing down of the department of education, the post office, the list goes on. The horrible four years he already demonstrated including the revolving door of his administration. It’s absurb that the worst president this country has ever seen even has a chance at being elected.
He should be bleeding all support if it weren’t for shortsightedness and people’s fantasies of returning to some 50’s white-ethno-kingdom where everyone “knew their place”, and people of other races were beholden to them in order to not be lynched. It’s not about making America great again, it about making whites superior again…
If you still support Trump at this point, you aren’t a moderate
Hate to break it to them but anyone who is still considering voting for Trump is not a moderate. You are hardcore right wing at this point, just maybe not MAGA right wing.
Anyone who suppprts Trump isn’t even remotely a Moderate. They are far-right extremists.
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The Republican party as a whole is so effing dumb for going along with this trump con job. I hope they dissolve into the abyss. Only problem when things like the Republican party dissolve, they reappear in another form usually worse.
When the race becomes about Trump, Biden wins.
Trump is an insurrectionist, he’s not qualified to hold office anymore. The word “unelectable” comes to mind.
He lost in 2020 after his abysmal presidency and now he’s facing 91 felonies across 4 indictments. He hasn’t gained any new supporters, in fact hundreds of thousands of them died thanks to his spread of misinformation and handling of the pandemic.
If he somehow makes it to the November election, he’s going to lose by even more than he did in 2020.
If you support Trump you aren’t a moderate. Moderate does not mean average.
I want to push back on this headline a bit. The article cites a bunch of people who never would have voted for trump including independents and Haley supporters. I wouldn’t say he’s actively bleeding support, it’s support he had never and will never get simply by being who he is. Semantics maybe?
I predict the GOP will fracture after the 2024 election.
All of this will be due to the compounding effects of what they’ve done to our country but Dobbs is the canary in the coal mine and we are going to see a decisive rejection of MAGA and they will turn on each other.
Is he bleeding moderates faster than moderation itself is hemorrhaging?
Let’s fucking hope
I read history, and this entire mess reminds me a lot about Andrew Jackson’s presidency.
The culture and etiquette during his presidency also hit rock bottom, with drunken parties, buying of votes, and even fistfights happening even in congress. I know Tramp indolises the man, but one just had to look at the number of crisises, scandals and overall chaos during his presidency, make the comparison to Tramp, and get people got run against him.
The is a reason why Jackson is sometimes considered as one of the worst presidents in the history of US, and Tramp seems to be trying to be even worse. Best case scenario, he will drag Republican Party to hell with him, worst case scenario, he will turn America into hell. Please vote blue people.
Hope it does. I’m not counting on it. Vote!
I blame all the forts that everyone seems to be upset about
no one who still supports him is any kind of moderate. He may be turning away uncommitted traitors and contrarians.
How could he bleed support he never had?
My most optimistic take on how the election will pan out vs. 2016 is that a reasonable chunk of people who voted for Trump hoping for the best, hoping for someone different, kidding themselves he wasn’t the shitstain he is…now know better. Sure he’s got his rabid cult and a lot of Republicans will just vote for whoever’s on the ticket, but the old adage about 40% of people always voting Democrat, 40% always voting Republican, and 20% make the difference hopefully holds true. Turnout will be the deciding factor, and that could go both ways – people desperate for Trump might get matched by the people desperate not to have him again.
Apparently the Republican Party saw what happened in 2020 and then again at the mid terms and went “what a great strategy that was, we had so much success with voters we desperately need like independents, moderates, and undecided voters running absolutely terrible and toxic candidates, let’s run it back!”
Just voluntarily walking over an electoral cliff at this point.
The lies are getting tiresome. What exactly have they done to make America a better place for everyone?
You ain’t moderate if you vote for that guy or even considered to vote for that guy.
Anyone supporting Trump can’t be considered “moderate”.
Screw these articles. Vote dammit
News for anyone voting Trump: you ain’t a moderate
Trump had no moderate support to begin with.
Trump has came out as full dictator.
I suspect he will lose most moderates.
24-28 needs to see a third party rise up from both centrist sides.
The Republican party of today is not even conservative anymore. They have been pushed aside by the radical MAGA party. They have no place anymore and just vote Red because they feel no other choice.
I’m a moderate. I want the best people in office, who can incrementally fix the big issues, defend our values, and not listen to the fanatical lunacy emanating from the far right and far left wings of our political universe.
I want safety for everyone, well funded education systems, equality of outcomes, sensible drug laws, good jobs and training options for everyone, a secure border with humane ways for people to immigrate into the country, and a strong military capable of standing up to the authoritarian countries and terrorist organizations plaguing the Earth.
I believe in electing the best person for the job.
And that means I will never vote Republican ever again. The only way to protect our nation, our constitution, and our population from the whims of the oligarchy and fundamentalists is now to vote blue no matter who.
I’ve never seen such disgusting moral cowardice as comes from Republicans. Straight up and down, from the lowest backwater red state voter all the way up on high to every single presidential candidate running in this primary. The era of John McCain and Mitt Romney is over. Republicans have been remade to look like anti-American psychopathic traitors.
They spit on our values. They’re actively trying to destroy our country. Fuck them. BLUE NO MATTER WHO.
No such thing as a moderate Trump supporter.
Any “moderate” that was willing to vote for him at any point in the last four years is not a moderate at all.
Are these “moderates” in the room with us right now?
>who backed Trump in 2016 and 2020. “I voted for him, and I didn’t realize he’s as corrupt as he is.”
Dude… if you asked me about Trump’s character in *2000*, I could have told you this guy is too corrupt to be a president. How did you blindly stumble into not just one, but two elections, in which he was even boldly corrupt in both campaigns?
If you’re not in the cult then you’re not voting for this guy. The moderates who voted for him in 2016 was because they wanted to see the experiment of having an outsider in the White House. In 2020, many of them were over that experiment. By Jan 6th, even more of them were never going to vote for that guy again. Since then, it has only gotten worse for Trump. You thought he lost bad last time, just wait for this election.
This is slightly misleading. Trump does not have moderate support. Trump support is, by definition, violent extremism.
If you support Trump, you’re not moderate. Literally that simple.
I have a feeling suburban women are going to bury any chances he ever had
I don’t understand how anyone describing themselves as moderate would support him in the first place.
The idea that anyone who ever even began to consider voting for him could be considered a “moderate” is a sick joke.
What moderate is still supporting Trump? Can’t be a real moderate. The GOP is extremist.
He shouldn’t even be allowed to run. This whole spectacle is ridiculous.
Trump got 74 million votes in 2020. That number is not shrinking in 2024.
Joe Biden won the EC vote by 60,000. It’s a fucked up system but Republicans haven’t won a popular vote since 2004, but can win the presidentcy with just a few votes in key areas.
What’s equally fucked is the census gave heavy +2 extra EC votes to solid Republican states.
A moderate who votes Trump is not a moderate..
How in the absolute fuck do moderates see Trump as a viable option?
You can’t be a moderate and support an insurrectionist. That’s not what moderate means.
I hate how much the Overton window has shifted. This is not rational. That orange rapist shouldn’t be allowed to run for office. He shouldn’t even be allowed outside a jail cell after everything he did.
‘His current campaign’ ?
What has he done to campaign? He hasn’t given a platform, no participation in debates, no answering questions.
If the voters are accepting of this, that’s just sad.
All we’ve seen of him is court appearances and angry online rants.
Ah yes, the insurrectionist moderates
“It could cost him the 2024 election”
Rly? What about the insurrection? The intentional tearing down of the department of education, the post office, the list goes on. The horrible four years he already demonstrated including the revolving door of his administration. It’s absurb that the worst president this country has ever seen even has a chance at being elected.
He should be bleeding all support if it weren’t for shortsightedness and people’s fantasies of returning to some 50’s white-ethno-kingdom where everyone “knew their place”, and people of other races were beholden to them in order to not be lynched. It’s not about making America great again, it about making whites superior again…
If you still support Trump at this point, you aren’t a moderate
Hate to break it to them but anyone who is still considering voting for Trump is not a moderate. You are hardcore right wing at this point, just maybe not MAGA right wing.
Anyone who suppprts Trump isn’t even remotely a Moderate. They are far-right extremists.