Boohoo, it must be so hard paying your staff minimum wage, when you’re worth £448 million.
Thoughts and prayers.
If only there was some cheap transient labour force that could come in seasonally from other countries close to ours, pay taxes, and help out. Ideally without bothering with any paperwork at all so you could hire them precisely when you need them – making you and the whole country richer and our beer cheaper.
In return our young UK folk could choose an amazing life experience working at bars in Italy, Germany, or on the beach in Ibiza or in holiday resorts in Greece or ski-resorts in Austria etc – in fact anywhere in Europe! Just jump in their car and go, for free, no paperwork needed, it’d be amazing for them 🙂
Oh well, we can only dream, eh Wetherspoons.
Don’t worry we’ll just serve ourselves. Your food is all preheated anyway so you might as well stick it in vending machines.
Our local Wetherspoons bought the listed building nextdoor and buildings round the corner.
It’s been closed since beginning of November for a £3million refit.
I’m going to have to stop buying crap stuff from China (which I’ve already done) to afford a pint in our new spoons.
I blame corporate greed myself, especially when they (big businesses) arw making record profits. But no it’s the minimum wage staff who are the problem.
Yeah Tim Martins cut is really pushing those prices up.
There must be some mistake.
Tim Martin promised us that if Brexit happened, beer prices would become cheaper.
Brexit happened. Why would he need to raise the price of beer? Was he lying about Brexit or was he just mistaken? If it’s the latter, will he apologise and start campaigning to rejoin the European Union?
I don’t mind paying a bit more if it means giving someone a better wage. I would hope everyone thinks like that
As ever, all the Spoons haters come in to bemoan the place and completely ignore the point. The interview is highlighting how supermarkets are able to absorb the cost of labour increases much better than pubs. He’s bemoaning that pubs in general have to have higher prices, which is a fair point when so many of them close because people find them affordable.
They could save an easy £324,000 by booting the CEO if this wasn’t meaningless blustering from wealthy lizardmen
Beer is expensive because Thatcher destroyed centuries old regional monopolies. Foreign beers saturated the market and breweries closed.
Bloody staff need above subsistence wages! What a LIBERTY.
What “staff”?
Last time I was in a Spoons, there was only two people front of house trying to look after an entire food & drink operation.
How many days into the year does it take this twat to earn his average workers yearly salary?
Let me know when they finally get around to blaming their precious fucking brexit
>The labour per pint is therefore around £1.35 (30% of £4.50)
The fuck?
I’ve worked in pubs in the past.
There’s no fucking way that I ever pulled as few as 8 pints an hour – while I’m aware that there are managers, warehousing and a big executive suite to pay for in “staff costs” as well, booze is a high-throughput, low cost-of-labor item – not a fucking iPhone, where cost of labour is about 40%, from raw materials to delivered product.
Oh bless it must be awful having to pay your staff minimum wage
Blames, or attributes? – there doesn’t appear to be much in the way of blaming in the article.
This is the exact problem with raising minimum wage when you dont put something into law to prevent companies from just hiking their prices more so they don’t lose any money.
Those on minimum wage end up no better off and the rest of us end up worse off. The only winner is the companies as they use it as an excuse to hyper inflate prices and the government as they rake in more tax.
Wetherspoons and other chain pubs are an absolute blight.
In my experience most pubs pay minimum wage and preferably want to run it with as fewest staff as possible because labour is usually one of the higher costs. Salaried employees (I.e. managers) are usually fucked and end up working more hours than contracted to.
Tim Martin is a bit of a prick but he knows the pub trade and is far better as a CEO than fucking Humphrey Smith who by all accounts is an actual ghoul. Labour or supply side issues always affect the price of a pint. I remember back in my pub days when cider went up by 5p and getting some genuinely angry complaints and it was still only about £3.50.
Wetherspoons is in a better place than most to soak hits when prices go up. Your local isn’t.
Wetherspoons offloads price increases to blame their employees, and not shareholders increased dividends.
babe wake up the new thread full of people who can’t read or understand basic business management just dropped x
Maybe the owner should have been OK with the cheaper labour he had before Brexit. Dick.
This is just the reality of what is happening to all pubs. Prices are going up. In a way they should do. I rarely go on a wetherspoons but last time I did I was drinking pints for £2.30 odd which just seems unheard of now.
People need to be able to live. No staff equals no bar.
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Boohoo, it must be so hard paying your staff minimum wage, when you’re worth £448 million.
Thoughts and prayers.
If only there was some cheap transient labour force that could come in seasonally from other countries close to ours, pay taxes, and help out. Ideally without bothering with any paperwork at all so you could hire them precisely when you need them – making you and the whole country richer and our beer cheaper.
In return our young UK folk could choose an amazing life experience working at bars in Italy, Germany, or on the beach in Ibiza or in holiday resorts in Greece or ski-resorts in Austria etc – in fact anywhere in Europe! Just jump in their car and go, for free, no paperwork needed, it’d be amazing for them 🙂
Oh well, we can only dream, eh Wetherspoons.
Don’t worry we’ll just serve ourselves. Your food is all preheated anyway so you might as well stick it in vending machines.
Our local Wetherspoons bought the listed building nextdoor and buildings round the corner.
It’s been closed since beginning of November for a £3million refit.
I’m going to have to stop buying crap stuff from China (which I’ve already done) to afford a pint in our new spoons.
I blame corporate greed myself, especially when they (big businesses) arw making record profits. But no it’s the minimum wage staff who are the problem.
Yeah Tim Martins cut is really pushing those prices up.
There must be some mistake.
Tim Martin promised us that if Brexit happened, beer prices would become cheaper.
Brexit happened. Why would he need to raise the price of beer? Was he lying about Brexit or was he just mistaken? If it’s the latter, will he apologise and start campaigning to rejoin the European Union?
I don’t mind paying a bit more if it means giving someone a better wage. I would hope everyone thinks like that
As ever, all the Spoons haters come in to bemoan the place and completely ignore the point. The interview is highlighting how supermarkets are able to absorb the cost of labour increases much better than pubs. He’s bemoaning that pubs in general have to have higher prices, which is a fair point when so many of them close because people find them affordable.
They could save an easy £324,000 by booting the CEO if this wasn’t meaningless blustering from wealthy lizardmen
Beer is expensive because Thatcher destroyed centuries old regional monopolies. Foreign beers saturated the market and breweries closed.
Bloody staff need above subsistence wages! What a LIBERTY.
What “staff”?
Last time I was in a Spoons, there was only two people front of house trying to look after an entire food & drink operation.
How many days into the year does it take this twat to earn his average workers yearly salary?
Let me know when they finally get around to blaming their precious fucking brexit
>The labour per pint is therefore around £1.35 (30% of £4.50)
The fuck?
I’ve worked in pubs in the past.
There’s no fucking way that I ever pulled as few as 8 pints an hour – while I’m aware that there are managers, warehousing and a big executive suite to pay for in “staff costs” as well, booze is a high-throughput, low cost-of-labor item – not a fucking iPhone, where cost of labour is about 40%, from raw materials to delivered product.
Oh bless it must be awful having to pay your staff minimum wage
Blames, or attributes? – there doesn’t appear to be much in the way of blaming in the article.
This is the exact problem with raising minimum wage when you dont put something into law to prevent companies from just hiking their prices more so they don’t lose any money.
Those on minimum wage end up no better off and the rest of us end up worse off. The only winner is the companies as they use it as an excuse to hyper inflate prices and the government as they rake in more tax.
Wetherspoons and other chain pubs are an absolute blight.
In my experience most pubs pay minimum wage and preferably want to run it with as fewest staff as possible because labour is usually one of the higher costs. Salaried employees (I.e. managers) are usually fucked and end up working more hours than contracted to.
Tim Martin is a bit of a prick but he knows the pub trade and is far better as a CEO than fucking Humphrey Smith who by all accounts is an actual ghoul. Labour or supply side issues always affect the price of a pint. I remember back in my pub days when cider went up by 5p and getting some genuinely angry complaints and it was still only about £3.50.
Wetherspoons is in a better place than most to soak hits when prices go up. Your local isn’t.
Wetherspoons offloads price increases to blame their employees, and not shareholders increased dividends.
babe wake up the new thread full of people who can’t read or understand basic business management just dropped x
Maybe the owner should have been OK with the cheaper labour he had before Brexit. Dick.
This is just the reality of what is happening to all pubs. Prices are going up. In a way they should do. I rarely go on a wetherspoons but last time I did I was drinking pints for £2.30 odd which just seems unheard of now.
People need to be able to live. No staff equals no bar.