Assuming this is true, when might Sweden offically join NATO?
The greasy ass must have gotten paid.
He’s so volatile I’ll believe it when the ink dries.
Orban overplayed a weak hand.
He fucks with EU but you don’t fuck with US
No mention of any Quid Pro Quo, but it’s worth looking for.
Has he taken Putins dick out of his mouth for 5 minutes?
This guy is a true dipshit, an absolute abhorrent human being. This scum doesnt deserve a cent from EU, stipped of voting right and perhaps even footed out of EU. But no, instead EU will just hand the gavel and EU presidency to this authoritarian in 2024. Its a total clownshow and would be hilarious if it just wasnt so incredibly sad.
Of course…
1. Russia doesn’t actually care about NATO, it’s a defense alliance and they know that. All their saber rattling is mostly for internal consumption. Russia doesn’t care if Sweden joins, because Sweden already has defense pacts with the UK and the US.
2. This gets Orban access to more information to feed back to Russia. He’ll know about NATO stuff in Sweden now. They’ll likely pay him for it.
3. He had nothing to stand on to hold it up other than the talking points he’s fed.
Wonder what we bribed/threatened him with?
Too late. Uncle Sam is leaving NATO in November
Vladimir Putin’s ultimate goal is re-establishment of the full map of Soviet Union. As someone who grew up in Moscow and spent half of my life in USA, I’ve studied this extensively and see the picture clearly.
The Soviet Union was legally dissolved by the heads of the 3 founding member states (Russia/Belarus/Ukraine). Vladimir Putin is looking to undo exactly that. Since he has Russia/Belarus all he needs left is Ukraine. This is why he hasn’t absorbed Belarus and got rid of Lukashenko. He needs the heads of Belarus and Ukraine to undo the dissolution by legally signing it all 3 of them. He needs Ukraine and a puppet head of state. The goal is to make things seem “official” and “legal”, just as all the “referendums” in Crimea and East Ukraine. Then he can claim the dissolution was illegal and will make a move for the rest of the Central Asian former Soviet Republics.
The exact reason why Putin went for Ukraine in his first major campaign. Georgia in 2008 was just quiet practice. Having Ukraine makes the return of Soviet Union claim legally legitimate to him. Once he has the former Soviet republics in Central Asia under his control…. Then he will directly attack NATO by going after the Baltic member states in his claims they belonged to Russia all along. Mark my words, everyone.
Someone wants EU funds
Starting to see a possibility of a Trump return. NATO is in panic mode.
Orban: “Let’s negotiate terms of your nato accession”
Sweden: “Fuck off”
Orban: “OK. You’re in!”
What option does he have? Realistically none, yes he has veto, but if he makes it clear NATO and EU can’t continue with Hungary, then NATO and EU will find ways to continue without Hungary. And his veto and every other opinion of his becomes irrelevant.
Cut the money and threaten to Expel them…that is all that’s needed…
“Sudden U-turn.”
lol they were just going to get the shit sanctioned out of them if they did not back this, and Russia can’t save them any more
The EU is threatening to strip Hungary’s voting rights. He has to play nice for a bit.
Clownban
NATO should watch Orban warily.
He ain’t on NATO’s side. He’s in Vlad’s pocket.
EU funds to Hungary affects corrupt politicians pocket allowances…. What new funds were approved to Hungary?
2 and 7 of different suits is not a good hand for bluffing! lol
Also wanted to comment on the relationship between Russian Federation and modern China. Through the years I’ve seen many online speculating and yes the idea is that they are allies but what most don’t realize is that it’s much deeper than that.
Current China as we know it today was facilitated by none other than Joseph Stalin. During WW2, China was basically destroyed by Japan. Mao is the man upon whose shoulders the foundations of China are standing. Yet, he was solely the servant of Stalin. Just like Kim Jong Un’s grandfather, Kim Il Sung. They both were given Soviet citizenship and ranks in the Red Army. They were both directly given the resources by Stalin to conquer their countries back and instill communist regimes. They both only answered to one man, Stalin. In fact he was so in control that both Mao and Kim had to fly to Moscow to be briefed on what they are to do and HAD TO SEEK PERMISSION.
China as it is today, is united with Russia as one, from the very foundation of their ideology. Look into Sino-Soviet relations on google. Putin in fact is running things as close to Stalin as he can. There are many occasions when he had Chinese and N. Korean leaders come to Moscow and not vice versa. Only recently Putin visited Korea for the first time along with his coming up trip to Beijing. These are the signs. Before Xi Jinping came to power there was Hu Jintao, who frequented Putin in Moscow. Russian Federation/North Korea/China are all tied deeply together. In the event of any war, they are one.
Did Russia’s check bounce?
I hate return check fees.
Almost like that’s how you exactly handle people like him. You call their bluff and don’t play their game.
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Assuming this is true, when might Sweden offically join NATO?
The greasy ass must have gotten paid.
He’s so volatile I’ll believe it when the ink dries.
Orban overplayed a weak hand.
He fucks with EU but you don’t fuck with US
No mention of any Quid Pro Quo, but it’s worth looking for.
Has he taken Putins dick out of his mouth for 5 minutes?
This guy is a true dipshit, an absolute abhorrent human being. This scum doesnt deserve a cent from EU, stipped of voting right and perhaps even footed out of EU. But no, instead EU will just hand the gavel and EU presidency to this authoritarian in 2024. Its a total clownshow and would be hilarious if it just wasnt so incredibly sad.
Of course…
1. Russia doesn’t actually care about NATO, it’s a defense alliance and they know that. All their saber rattling is mostly for internal consumption. Russia doesn’t care if Sweden joins, because Sweden already has defense pacts with the UK and the US.
2. This gets Orban access to more information to feed back to Russia. He’ll know about NATO stuff in Sweden now. They’ll likely pay him for it.
3. He had nothing to stand on to hold it up other than the talking points he’s fed.
Wonder what we bribed/threatened him with?
Too late. Uncle Sam is leaving NATO in November
Vladimir Putin’s ultimate goal is re-establishment of the full map of Soviet Union. As someone who grew up in Moscow and spent half of my life in USA, I’ve studied this extensively and see the picture clearly.
The Soviet Union was legally dissolved by the heads of the 3 founding member states (Russia/Belarus/Ukraine). Vladimir Putin is looking to undo exactly that. Since he has Russia/Belarus all he needs left is Ukraine. This is why he hasn’t absorbed Belarus and got rid of Lukashenko. He needs the heads of Belarus and Ukraine to undo the dissolution by legally signing it all 3 of them. He needs Ukraine and a puppet head of state. The goal is to make things seem “official” and “legal”, just as all the “referendums” in Crimea and East Ukraine. Then he can claim the dissolution was illegal and will make a move for the rest of the Central Asian former Soviet Republics.
The exact reason why Putin went for Ukraine in his first major campaign. Georgia in 2008 was just quiet practice. Having Ukraine makes the return of Soviet Union claim legally legitimate to him. Once he has the former Soviet republics in Central Asia under his control…. Then he will directly attack NATO by going after the Baltic member states in his claims they belonged to Russia all along. Mark my words, everyone.
Someone wants EU funds
Starting to see a possibility of a Trump return. NATO is in panic mode.
Orban: “Let’s negotiate terms of your nato accession”
Sweden: “Fuck off”
Orban: “OK. You’re in!”
What option does he have? Realistically none, yes he has veto, but if he makes it clear NATO and EU can’t continue with Hungary, then NATO and EU will find ways to continue without Hungary. And his veto and every other opinion of his becomes irrelevant.
Cut the money and threaten to Expel them…that is all that’s needed…
“Sudden U-turn.”
lol they were just going to get the shit sanctioned out of them if they did not back this, and Russia can’t save them any more
The EU is threatening to strip Hungary’s voting rights. He has to play nice for a bit.
Clownban
NATO should watch Orban warily.
He ain’t on NATO’s side. He’s in Vlad’s pocket.
EU funds to Hungary affects corrupt politicians pocket allowances…. What new funds were approved to Hungary?
2 and 7 of different suits is not a good hand for bluffing! lol
Also wanted to comment on the relationship between Russian Federation and modern China. Through the years I’ve seen many online speculating and yes the idea is that they are allies but what most don’t realize is that it’s much deeper than that.
Current China as we know it today was facilitated by none other than Joseph Stalin. During WW2, China was basically destroyed by Japan. Mao is the man upon whose shoulders the foundations of China are standing. Yet, he was solely the servant of Stalin. Just like Kim Jong Un’s grandfather, Kim Il Sung. They both were given Soviet citizenship and ranks in the Red Army. They were both directly given the resources by Stalin to conquer their countries back and instill communist regimes. They both only answered to one man, Stalin. In fact he was so in control that both Mao and Kim had to fly to Moscow to be briefed on what they are to do and HAD TO SEEK PERMISSION.
China as it is today, is united with Russia as one, from the very foundation of their ideology. Look into Sino-Soviet relations on google. Putin in fact is running things as close to Stalin as he can. There are many occasions when he had Chinese and N. Korean leaders come to Moscow and not vice versa. Only recently Putin visited Korea for the first time along with his coming up trip to Beijing. These are the signs. Before Xi Jinping came to power there was Hu Jintao, who frequented Putin in Moscow. Russian Federation/North Korea/China are all tied deeply together. In the event of any war, they are one.
Did Russia’s check bounce?
I hate return check fees.
Almost like that’s how you exactly handle people like him. You call their bluff and don’t play their game.