I’m sure there are some that might not but when it comes down to the actual election, most will vote for Trump.
Might it be because Trump is a batshit fucking crazy, hardcore criminal, and an active danger to innocent Americans?
Fox is anti-trump now, so…
But will they vote for Biden?
I mean the guy is a fucking traitor. And one of the most despicable people alive. Unless you’re in the cult, he’s absolutely repugnant
Granted, most Republicans are in the cult. But there’s a lot more people not in the cult than are
NH hasn’t voted for a republican for president since 2000. So this in itself isn’t a big deal. Perhaps it’s indicative of other state though.
More than a third of voters who identified as Republican in New Hampshire said they will not be voting for Donald Trump even if he does become the party’s nominee, according to new voter analysis data.
A Fox News survey of 2,000 primary voters in the state (which Trump won by a large margin) found that 53% of Republicans in New Hampshire would be satisfied with Trump being the nominee again. Another 35% said they’d just not vote for him.
Nikki Haley faced similar numbers in the post-primary poll as 32% of voters said they’d be dissatisfied enough with her as the nominee that they wouldn’t support her. Only 39% said they would be happy with the former South Carolina governor taking on Democrats in the fall.
Showing even more of a divide between Haley and Trump voters, 77% of those who voted for the former said they would not support the former president. Over 50% of Trump voters also said they would not support Haley.
If you weren’t here in 2016, I’ve got to warn you about a pattern we’re repeating in 2024.
Large-scale, aggregated polling data that isn’t favorable is being downvoted and criticized through crowdsourced arguments that will leave anyone open to the idea feeling comfortable.
At the same time, these small-scale, unaggregated polls taken at partisan moments for the Republicans are elevated and praised for confirming what we already know.
What makes it worse this time is that Trump is actually *winning* in the aggregated polling data, whereas last cycle he was losing (but by less than socially selected polling data suggested). We’re honestly at the point where we need to throw everything we have into winning this, but, ironically in my opinion, we’ve got people coming behind these warnings telling you “nah, just vote everyone, we’re good so long as we all vote!” That’s not enough.
Give me this stat in PA, MI, WI, AZ, and GA please for the love of fuck
It’s one thing to respond to some random poll on foxnews.com. It’s quite another thing to actually vote against your party’s candidate.
Yo. That’s fucking crushing news. Wow.
Bullshit. They’ll fall in line.
Almost 170k New Hampshire republicans voted for a convicted rapist who fomented an insurrection that killed people. Republicans chose party over country years ago.
Assuming similar numbers nationally within the GOP, Trump will lose by a wider margin than last time.
January 6th turned swing voters and some Republicans into never-Trumpers. If he’s convicted of a felony before the election, it will be even worse. On top of both of those, Trump might now show up on ballots in a handful of states.
With so many down ballot Republicans endorsing Trump, an unpopular Trump could translate into Democratic gains as long as Democrats tie them unshakably to Trump.
Never Trumpers to your face, Trump voters in the booth.
I want to believe, but I won’t because we heard this in 2016 and 2020 and the mass exodus did *not* happen. I honestly don’t trust them.
I won’t believe any of this until Election Day. Republicans and so-called independents are capable of convincing themselves of the most ridiculous reasons to vote against their best interests. My mother, a conservative but pro-choice independent, voted for Trump over Clinton in 2016 because she thought that Clinton should’ve left her marriage. Smh.
Let’s get those same numbers in the swing states.
The enthusiasm for Trump is nowhere near where it was in 2015. He’s used up as a politician now. This is why one term Presidents don’t run again. Anyone that thinks he is going to win, is doing what his cult does, and swallowing all the bullshit pouring out of his own mouth. Nothing else points to Trump having an easy win in November.
And this is before a conviction. If he is convicted, I think all hope he has is out the window. However, that might also hurt Democratic turnout.
This is the demographic that Trump needs to worry about, and Haley needs to bring up at every opportunity: Republicans who haven’t drunk the Flavor Aid and see Trump as the incompetent and egotistical wannabe fascist he is, and *don’t* like it.
It’s true they’re not a majority of the party, which is why Haley has little to no chance to win a state, let alone the nomination. But they represent the same party split that led to the turmoil in the House, between the far-right MAGA heads, the moderates who don’t like the flirting with christofascism, and everyone in between who just goes with whatever’s popular on their side.
When Trump was asked what he would do to win over people voting for Haley, all he said was “they’ll vote for me”. When Haley said that Trump is unelectable in a general, her campaign serving as a reminder that they could have gone another way may make that prediction self-fulfilling.
Our buddies over a r/conservative seem to think that the fact that many non-Republicans voted for Haley yesterday means that her support isn’t real. They haven’t gotten past the concept that winning Republican primaries, especially nowadays, does not mean that you have national electoral appeal. Trump is increasingly looking like King of the hard-line 25%.
This was the big takeaway from the NH election. Trump got 55% of the vote. Biden, despite not even being on the ballot, got around 70% of the vote.
Trump is toxic. Even if 5-10% of Republicans stay home, that’s enough for Trump to lose swing states.
This is part of why he’s desperate to get Haley out. The more primaries she stays in, the more we hear this from people hoping they get a different option. He’s got no chance without a third of republicans not willing to hold their nose to vote for him.
I’m in California and yesterday I was in an Uber with a driver (immigrated from Mexico) who was all about wanting Nikki Haley to win NH. He said, “I drank the kool-aid, and voted for Trump, twice. So did my whole family. Now we’re awake and asking ourselves if we were all blind.”
I know we’re not a swing state, but it was refreshing, anyway to hear he’s voting for, “anybody but Trump, anybody!”
**35% of N.H. Republicans Say They Won’t Vote For Trump**
That is an astonishing number, but it IS New Hampshire, I would like to see that number in Kentucky or Missouri (but that’s not going to happen).
However, if just 15% of Republicans took that stance in the swing states it would be all over for Trump. Hell, if 15% of Republicans in Texas alone took that stance that is all that would be necessary to trash his hopes of becoming a dictator.
Traditional Republicans are in a unique position in our history, they could make a difference.
If this is true and they actually follow through with their sentiment (that’s a big if), then there is literally no way for Trump to win the general. It’s simply not mathematically possible if that trend holds true for other states, even if that split is say only 10% in states like Pennsylvania, he cannot win.
EDIT: And I know that there are a lot of Democrats salty about Biden being the nominee, but ultimately when faced with the choice I think the vast majority of them will vote for Biden in the general. They know what’s at stake here.
Don’t believe them, don’t trust them. Historically Republicans line up in lockstep to vote for their candidate, no matter who.
Vote if you don’t want Orange Hitler.
I call bullshit. By the time the election comes Fox will have republicans believing that Biden eats babies. republicans are gullible.
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I’m sure there are some that might not but when it comes down to the actual election, most will vote for Trump.
Might it be because Trump is a batshit fucking crazy, hardcore criminal, and an active danger to innocent Americans?
Fox is anti-trump now, so…
But will they vote for Biden?
I mean the guy is a fucking traitor. And one of the most despicable people alive. Unless you’re in the cult, he’s absolutely repugnant
Granted, most Republicans are in the cult. But there’s a lot more people not in the cult than are
NH hasn’t voted for a republican for president since 2000. So this in itself isn’t a big deal. Perhaps it’s indicative of other state though.
More than a third of voters who identified as Republican in New Hampshire said they will not be voting for Donald Trump even if he does become the party’s nominee, according to new voter analysis data.
A Fox News survey of 2,000 primary voters in the state (which Trump won by a large margin) found that 53% of Republicans in New Hampshire would be satisfied with Trump being the nominee again. Another 35% said they’d just not vote for him.
Nikki Haley faced similar numbers in the post-primary poll as 32% of voters said they’d be dissatisfied enough with her as the nominee that they wouldn’t support her. Only 39% said they would be happy with the former South Carolina governor taking on Democrats in the fall.
Showing even more of a divide between Haley and Trump voters, 77% of those who voted for the former said they would not support the former president. Over 50% of Trump voters also said they would not support Haley.
If you weren’t here in 2016, I’ve got to warn you about a pattern we’re repeating in 2024.
Large-scale, aggregated polling data that isn’t favorable is being downvoted and criticized through crowdsourced arguments that will leave anyone open to the idea feeling comfortable.
At the same time, these small-scale, unaggregated polls taken at partisan moments for the Republicans are elevated and praised for confirming what we already know.
What makes it worse this time is that Trump is actually *winning* in the aggregated polling data, whereas last cycle he was losing (but by less than socially selected polling data suggested). We’re honestly at the point where we need to throw everything we have into winning this, but, ironically in my opinion, we’ve got people coming behind these warnings telling you “nah, just vote everyone, we’re good so long as we all vote!” That’s not enough.
Give me this stat in PA, MI, WI, AZ, and GA please for the love of fuck
It’s one thing to respond to some random poll on foxnews.com. It’s quite another thing to actually vote against your party’s candidate.
Yo. That’s fucking crushing news. Wow.
Bullshit. They’ll fall in line.
Almost 170k New Hampshire republicans voted for a convicted rapist who fomented an insurrection that killed people. Republicans chose party over country years ago.
Assuming similar numbers nationally within the GOP, Trump will lose by a wider margin than last time.
January 6th turned swing voters and some Republicans into never-Trumpers. If he’s convicted of a felony before the election, it will be even worse. On top of both of those, Trump might now show up on ballots in a handful of states.
With so many down ballot Republicans endorsing Trump, an unpopular Trump could translate into Democratic gains as long as Democrats tie them unshakably to Trump.
Never Trumpers to your face, Trump voters in the booth.
I want to believe, but I won’t because we heard this in 2016 and 2020 and the mass exodus did *not* happen. I honestly don’t trust them.
I won’t believe any of this until Election Day. Republicans and so-called independents are capable of convincing themselves of the most ridiculous reasons to vote against their best interests. My mother, a conservative but pro-choice independent, voted for Trump over Clinton in 2016 because she thought that Clinton should’ve left her marriage. Smh.
Let’s get those same numbers in the swing states.
The enthusiasm for Trump is nowhere near where it was in 2015. He’s used up as a politician now. This is why one term Presidents don’t run again. Anyone that thinks he is going to win, is doing what his cult does, and swallowing all the bullshit pouring out of his own mouth. Nothing else points to Trump having an easy win in November.
And this is before a conviction. If he is convicted, I think all hope he has is out the window. However, that might also hurt Democratic turnout.
This is the demographic that Trump needs to worry about, and Haley needs to bring up at every opportunity: Republicans who haven’t drunk the Flavor Aid and see Trump as the incompetent and egotistical wannabe fascist he is, and *don’t* like it.
It’s true they’re not a majority of the party, which is why Haley has little to no chance to win a state, let alone the nomination. But they represent the same party split that led to the turmoil in the House, between the far-right MAGA heads, the moderates who don’t like the flirting with christofascism, and everyone in between who just goes with whatever’s popular on their side.
When Trump was asked what he would do to win over people voting for Haley, all he said was “they’ll vote for me”. When Haley said that Trump is unelectable in a general, her campaign serving as a reminder that they could have gone another way may make that prediction self-fulfilling.
Our buddies over a r/conservative seem to think that the fact that many non-Republicans voted for Haley yesterday means that her support isn’t real. They haven’t gotten past the concept that winning Republican primaries, especially nowadays, does not mean that you have national electoral appeal. Trump is increasingly looking like King of the hard-line 25%.
This was the big takeaway from the NH election. Trump got 55% of the vote. Biden, despite not even being on the ballot, got around 70% of the vote.
Trump is toxic. Even if 5-10% of Republicans stay home, that’s enough for Trump to lose swing states.
This is part of why he’s desperate to get Haley out. The more primaries she stays in, the more we hear this from people hoping they get a different option. He’s got no chance without a third of republicans not willing to hold their nose to vote for him.
I’m in California and yesterday I was in an Uber with a driver (immigrated from Mexico) who was all about wanting Nikki Haley to win NH. He said, “I drank the kool-aid, and voted for Trump, twice. So did my whole family. Now we’re awake and asking ourselves if we were all blind.”
I know we’re not a swing state, but it was refreshing, anyway to hear he’s voting for, “anybody but Trump, anybody!”
**35% of N.H. Republicans Say They Won’t Vote For Trump**
That is an astonishing number, but it IS New Hampshire, I would like to see that number in Kentucky or Missouri (but that’s not going to happen).
However, if just 15% of Republicans took that stance in the swing states it would be all over for Trump. Hell, if 15% of Republicans in Texas alone took that stance that is all that would be necessary to trash his hopes of becoming a dictator.
Traditional Republicans are in a unique position in our history, they could make a difference.
If this is true and they actually follow through with their sentiment (that’s a big if), then there is literally no way for Trump to win the general. It’s simply not mathematically possible if that trend holds true for other states, even if that split is say only 10% in states like Pennsylvania, he cannot win.
EDIT: And I know that there are a lot of Democrats salty about Biden being the nominee, but ultimately when faced with the choice I think the vast majority of them will vote for Biden in the general. They know what’s at stake here.
Don’t believe them, don’t trust them. Historically Republicans line up in lockstep to vote for their candidate, no matter who.
Vote if you don’t want Orange Hitler.
I call bullshit. By the time the election comes Fox will have republicans believing that Biden eats babies. republicans are gullible.