Too bad Jon Stewart doesn’t start this Monday because this will already be out of the news cycle by 2/12 when he starts. Something equally as repulsive if not worse will take its place however.
Edit: a word
Civil War 2024 is far to catchy to pass on.
>Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt and Newsmax host Carl Higbie mused Thursday about a potential “force-on-force” conflict between Texas and the Biden Administration after the Supreme Court ruled against the state’s Republican governor by declaring that federal agents can remove razor wire laid along the border with Mexico.
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>Higbie began by telling Stitt that “there’s rumblings that Joe Biden should or may actually federalize the National Guard—take that power away from Greg Abbott.In response to the high court’s 5-4 ruling, Gov. Abbott remained defiant, saying in a statement on X, “I will continue to defend Texas’ constitutional authority to secure the border and prevent the Biden Admin from destroying our property. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton similarly commented that the “fight is not over.What exactly that means is unclear, and Higbie and Stitt seemed eager to game it out.
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>“Let’s say this showdown—I mean, that’s what it is. It’s a showdown. It’s a showdown of power and loyalties and constitutionality. Let’s say [Biden] does that, the Newsmax host theorized. “How many people say, ‘No. You know what? Screw you, Biden administration.’ And how many people stay and fight with Texas versus the federal things, and does that put us on course for a force-on-force conflict?”Stitt called the situation, which has so far seen several migrant deaths, “very weird—while adding that clash is currently a “powder keg of tension.”
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>“We certainly stand with Texas on the right to defend themselves, he said. “But Biden is going to be in a tough situation. So in other words, he’s going to try to federalize these troops—in other words, put them on federal orders. And so now, their allegiance technically goes to the president of the United States instead of the governor.”
Again, this is governor of a state chatting about state vs. federal warfare in the cards and it’s not even on most news sites yet. The GOP wants a war, one that they could not win, or maybe jut want to hold out long enough that the “expendables” can cause chaos. (Edited)
Yeah. I see Abbot and Paxton turning tail as soon as they realize that if they actually try to organize an armed force to defy the federal government, a lot of things will suddenly be unavailable to them that they vitally need.
At least the discovery phase will be easy
“The dispute between Texas and the federal government has been compared to the situation that led President Dwight Eisenhower to federalize the Arkansas National Guard—part of his bid to allow Black students to attend a Little Rock public high school against the wishes of the then-segregationist governor.”
Not surprising, racists going to racist. Newsmax has got to be funded by foreign powers, snuggling up to Republicans. Eisenhower was right, and we’re a better country for it.
Not out of the realm of possibility but I expect it more after the election if Biden wins.
All the right is currently pounding the drums for a civil war.
Trump’s second coup begins.
Uvalde already proved how “courageous and heroic” armed male Texans are when children’s lives are on the line.
Let’s just say that Abbott, over the years, has ascribed to far greater heraldry than that given him as governor of the lone star state. He will be forever added as a footnote to American history as a traitor to his country.
It’s funny how news personalities think they themselves won’t be targets.
Uphold the Constitution? The Supreme Court already ruled on this. Abbott is on the wrong side of the Constitution here.
Newsmax is one of the main propaganda outlets servicing the 2024 Putin/trump campaign.
It is *pretty weird* that the National Guard oath of enlistment puts the governor and the president on seemingly equal footing.
> I will obey the orders of the president of the united states and the governor of the state of X.
I’m not an expert on this subject, but it’s pretty common that the president and any particular state governor disagree on things, even very substantial things like what the national guard should be doing.
All traitors.
All those healthy 300lb FPS players are grabbing a Big Mac and heading to TX! 😃👍
I’m confused about exactly which Texas forces are occupying the border area in question? Are they the Texas National Guard similar to all the other state national guards and essentially part of the US military? Or are they some kind of totally Texas-run militia that’s not National Guard?
Nothing like that would happen because if Biden federalizes them the first senior commander to defy any order will be court martialed. They’re not going to toss their career in the garbage for Greg fucking Abbott.
This BS “network” should be flushed from our airwaves along with Fox “News” Both are the fakest of Fake News
These “patriots” are defying a supreme court ruling, spitting in the face of a system of checks and balances, and inciting the base with inflammatory rhetoric, provoking violence and division, persuading their voters that a domestic crisis and, possibly, a civil war is imminent. All while claiming that it’s the Biden administration that’s instigating this…
It’s pretty apparent that these conservatives want their worst impulses catered to by their political leaders and media, that they desire conflict, and that they’ll go to great lengths to rationalize why the only proportionate response is to escalate things further, perhaps even take up arms against their fellow countrymen.
And again, in the end convincing themselves that theyre not accountable for any political extremism or violence that might ensue as a result of their party’s jingoistic ideology, their entirely unAmerican defiance of checks and balances, their escalation of this conflict, and their unprovoked, counter revolutionary response to their own propaganda.
Declare Texas is out of the US then. We’ll never have a Republican President again. And they can figure out their “war” with Mexico themselves.
Win win.
Oh and they’d no longer get to illegally funnel money from federal funds. Also win.
I mean, it’s a channel literally created to cater to the pedophile and terrorist demographics. Doesn’t leave a lot of room for topics.
Newsmax is just another right wing traitor channel of first class pussies.
> As for how those in the Texas National Guard would act if Biden were likewise to use his authority to intervene, Stitt said they would feel conflicted.
“I think they would be in a difficult situation: **to protect their homeland** or to follow what Biden’s saying,” he said. “It’s very interesting. But then, you know, then **you’ve got Oklahoma and Florida and Tennessee and you got all these other states that would send our National Guard to help and to support the efforts of Governor Abbott.** Because every state is a border state.”
This is all sounding very neoconfederate.
Putin is somewhere laughing. All it took was funneling money to the GOP and now they can’t wait to kill their fellow Americans.
Russia beat us without ever firing a shot.
There’s a serious danger of Trump supporters committing murder the closer it gets to the election. As these trials really ramp up and with this kind of rhetoric, the true crazies might do something horrible
When you look at this through the lens of they know they have no policies or accomplishments to run on, and they know they’re looking at an increasingly exhausted base looking for ways off the maga train (Nikki Haley), then it’s clear this is their Hail Mary play to get their base frothed up about the election. They will back down, make no mistake about it. But they will absolutely use this as a red herring to their whole lot of nothing they have otherwise.
Immediately suspended all federal subsidies and contributions to TX. Then wait.
Our enemies are watching and laughing at our populous right now.
Cut off all federal funding to those states. This will end in a week
This isn’t a news channel.
Republicans seem to think they’ll come out of such a conflict unscathed, like the crashed economy and dismantled infrastructure brought on by even scattered violence won’t send their sweet suburban lives into utter turmoil.
Easy so Biden now instructs Abbott to remove the razor wire and reminds him that if anyone dies because of it that he will be held accountable and face federal manslaughter charges. As authorised by the Supreme Court.
This way it’s a battle between 2 people.
Doesn’t sound like a party that believes they can win elections
More insurrectionist threats – arrest these domestic terrorists. Enough.
“Similarly, presidential candidate Donald Trump on Thursday called upon “all willing States to deploy their guards to Texas to prevent the entry of Illegals, and to remove them back across the Border.”
However in the meantime,
Senior Senate Republicans are furious that **Donald Trump may have killed an emerging bipartisan deal over the southern border**, depriving them of a key legislative achievement on a pressing national priority and offering a preview of what’s to come with Trump as their likely presidential nominee.
So once again, the Republicans ‘manufacture’ an issue, and campaign on the ‘imaginary’ issue, while doing everything they can to prevent a situation to fix the issue.
At what point do you guys have to start arresting jackasses for treason, espionage or some other serious crime?
These guys are obsessed with civil war. Like just fucking do it already if you want. We’ll see how that turns out. They better hope I’m not president when it’s over because there won’t be blanket pardons this time for all the traitors.
Fascism is treason
Aren’t there a lot of Federal laws against this?
Can’t both of them go to Federal prison for like a dozen years for this?
This is a distraction to obfuscate GOP senators backing out of a nearly finished border deal at the behest of Trump.
They will destroy all of our lives for nothing. They don’t even believe in anything. What for Trump?!
Let’s fucking go, put these horrible Republicans in their place!
How are they so stupid that they can’t see this as a Russian intelligence operation?
They actually *want* civil war…
Putin is smiling right now. The GOP buffoons are doing exactly what he planned and wished for. Operation: destabilize USA is moving forward
Serious question. They keep mentioning Biden in this, but does Biden have anything to do with any of it? From the surface it looks like it’s a showdown between the Supreme Court and Texas
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Too bad Jon Stewart doesn’t start this Monday because this will already be out of the news cycle by 2/12 when he starts. Something equally as repulsive if not worse will take its place however.
Edit: a word
Civil War 2024 is far to catchy to pass on.
>Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt and Newsmax host Carl Higbie mused Thursday about a potential “force-on-force” conflict between Texas and the Biden Administration after the Supreme Court ruled against the state’s Republican governor by declaring that federal agents can remove razor wire laid along the border with Mexico.
>
>Higbie began by telling Stitt that “there’s rumblings that Joe Biden should or may actually federalize the National Guard—take that power away from Greg Abbott.In response to the high court’s 5-4 ruling, Gov. Abbott remained defiant, saying in a statement on X, “I will continue to defend Texas’ constitutional authority to secure the border and prevent the Biden Admin from destroying our property. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton similarly commented that the “fight is not over.What exactly that means is unclear, and Higbie and Stitt seemed eager to game it out.
>
>“Let’s say this showdown—I mean, that’s what it is. It’s a showdown. It’s a showdown of power and loyalties and constitutionality. Let’s say [Biden] does that, the Newsmax host theorized. “How many people say, ‘No. You know what? Screw you, Biden administration.’ And how many people stay and fight with Texas versus the federal things, and does that put us on course for a force-on-force conflict?”Stitt called the situation, which has so far seen several migrant deaths, “very weird—while adding that clash is currently a “powder keg of tension.”
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>“We certainly stand with Texas on the right to defend themselves, he said. “But Biden is going to be in a tough situation. So in other words, he’s going to try to federalize these troops—in other words, put them on federal orders. And so now, their allegiance technically goes to the president of the United States instead of the governor.”
Again, this is governor of a state chatting about state vs. federal warfare in the cards and it’s not even on most news sites yet. The GOP wants a war, one that they could not win, or maybe jut want to hold out long enough that the “expendables” can cause chaos. (Edited)
Yeah. I see Abbot and Paxton turning tail as soon as they realize that if they actually try to organize an armed force to defy the federal government, a lot of things will suddenly be unavailable to them that they vitally need.
At least the discovery phase will be easy
“The dispute between Texas and the federal government has been compared to the situation that led President Dwight Eisenhower to federalize the Arkansas National Guard—part of his bid to allow Black students to attend a Little Rock public high school against the wishes of the then-segregationist governor.”
Not surprising, racists going to racist. Newsmax has got to be funded by foreign powers, snuggling up to Republicans. Eisenhower was right, and we’re a better country for it.
Not out of the realm of possibility but I expect it more after the election if Biden wins.
All the right is currently pounding the drums for a civil war.
Trump’s second coup begins.
Uvalde already proved how “courageous and heroic” armed male Texans are when children’s lives are on the line.
Let’s just say that Abbott, over the years, has ascribed to far greater heraldry than that given him as governor of the lone star state. He will be forever added as a footnote to American history as a traitor to his country.
It’s funny how news personalities think they themselves won’t be targets.
Uphold the Constitution? The Supreme Court already ruled on this. Abbott is on the wrong side of the Constitution here.
Newsmax is one of the main propaganda outlets servicing the 2024 Putin/trump campaign.
It is *pretty weird* that the National Guard oath of enlistment puts the governor and the president on seemingly equal footing.
https://www.ngbpmc.ng.mil/Portals/27/forms/ngb%20forms/ngb337.pdf?ver=2019-09-13-135107-220
> I will obey the orders of the president of the united states and the governor of the state of X.
I’m not an expert on this subject, but it’s pretty common that the president and any particular state governor disagree on things, even very substantial things like what the national guard should be doing.
All traitors.
All those healthy 300lb FPS players are grabbing a Big Mac and heading to TX! 😃👍
I’m confused about exactly which Texas forces are occupying the border area in question? Are they the Texas National Guard similar to all the other state national guards and essentially part of the US military? Or are they some kind of totally Texas-run militia that’s not National Guard?
Nothing like that would happen because if Biden federalizes them the first senior commander to defy any order will be court martialed. They’re not going to toss their career in the garbage for Greg fucking Abbott.
This BS “network” should be flushed from our airwaves along with Fox “News” Both are the fakest of Fake News
These “patriots” are defying a supreme court ruling, spitting in the face of a system of checks and balances, and inciting the base with inflammatory rhetoric, provoking violence and division, persuading their voters that a domestic crisis and, possibly, a civil war is imminent. All while claiming that it’s the Biden administration that’s instigating this…
It’s pretty apparent that these conservatives want their worst impulses catered to by their political leaders and media, that they desire conflict, and that they’ll go to great lengths to rationalize why the only proportionate response is to escalate things further, perhaps even take up arms against their fellow countrymen.
And again, in the end convincing themselves that theyre not accountable for any political extremism or violence that might ensue as a result of their party’s jingoistic ideology, their entirely unAmerican defiance of checks and balances, their escalation of this conflict, and their unprovoked, counter revolutionary response to their own propaganda.
Declare Texas is out of the US then. We’ll never have a Republican President again. And they can figure out their “war” with Mexico themselves.
Win win.
Oh and they’d no longer get to illegally funnel money from federal funds. Also win.
I mean, it’s a channel literally created to cater to the pedophile and terrorist demographics. Doesn’t leave a lot of room for topics.
Newsmax is just another right wing traitor channel of first class pussies.
> As for how those in the Texas National Guard would act if Biden were likewise to use his authority to intervene, Stitt said they would feel conflicted.
“I think they would be in a difficult situation: **to protect their homeland** or to follow what Biden’s saying,” he said. “It’s very interesting. But then, you know, then **you’ve got Oklahoma and Florida and Tennessee and you got all these other states that would send our National Guard to help and to support the efforts of Governor Abbott.** Because every state is a border state.”
This is all sounding very neoconfederate.
Putin is somewhere laughing. All it took was funneling money to the GOP and now they can’t wait to kill their fellow Americans.
Russia beat us without ever firing a shot.
There’s a serious danger of Trump supporters committing murder the closer it gets to the election. As these trials really ramp up and with this kind of rhetoric, the true crazies might do something horrible
When you look at this through the lens of they know they have no policies or accomplishments to run on, and they know they’re looking at an increasingly exhausted base looking for ways off the maga train (Nikki Haley), then it’s clear this is their Hail Mary play to get their base frothed up about the election. They will back down, make no mistake about it. But they will absolutely use this as a red herring to their whole lot of nothing they have otherwise.
Immediately suspended all federal subsidies and contributions to TX. Then wait.
Our enemies are watching and laughing at our populous right now.
Cut off all federal funding to those states. This will end in a week
This isn’t a news channel.
Republicans seem to think they’ll come out of such a conflict unscathed, like the crashed economy and dismantled infrastructure brought on by even scattered violence won’t send their sweet suburban lives into utter turmoil.
Easy so Biden now instructs Abbott to remove the razor wire and reminds him that if anyone dies because of it that he will be held accountable and face federal manslaughter charges. As authorised by the Supreme Court.
This way it’s a battle between 2 people.
Doesn’t sound like a party that believes they can win elections
More insurrectionist threats – arrest these domestic terrorists. Enough.
Alright how you going to stop the US military?
From the [acticle](https://www.thedailybeast.com/newsmax-airs-alarming-discussion-of-civil-war-with-federal-gov),
“Similarly, presidential candidate Donald Trump on Thursday called upon “all willing States to deploy their guards to Texas to prevent the entry of Illegals, and to remove them back across the Border.”
However in the meantime,
Senior Senate Republicans are furious that **Donald Trump may have killed an emerging bipartisan deal over the southern border**, depriving them of a key legislative achievement on a pressing national priority and offering a preview of what’s to come with Trump as their likely presidential nominee.
“I think the border is a very important issue for **Donald Trump**. And the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and congresspeople that **he doesn’t want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Biden for it** is … really appalling,” said GOP Sen.[Mitt Romney](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.htmlhttps://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html) of Utah.
So once again, the Republicans ‘manufacture’ an issue, and campaign on the ‘imaginary’ issue, while doing everything they can to prevent a situation to fix the issue.
At what point do you guys have to start arresting jackasses for treason, espionage or some other serious crime?
These guys are obsessed with civil war. Like just fucking do it already if you want. We’ll see how that turns out. They better hope I’m not president when it’s over because there won’t be blanket pardons this time for all the traitors.
Fascism is treason
Aren’t there a lot of Federal laws against this?
Can’t both of them go to Federal prison for like a dozen years for this?
This is a distraction to obfuscate GOP senators backing out of a nearly finished border deal at the behest of Trump.
They will destroy all of our lives for nothing. They don’t even believe in anything. What for Trump?!
Let’s fucking go, put these horrible Republicans in their place!
How are they so stupid that they can’t see this as a Russian intelligence operation?
They actually *want* civil war…
Putin is smiling right now. The GOP buffoons are doing exactly what he planned and wished for. Operation: destabilize USA is moving forward
Serious question. They keep mentioning Biden in this, but does Biden have anything to do with any of it? From the surface it looks like it’s a showdown between the Supreme Court and Texas