Although I’d say a large part of this decline is down to their lack of any difference in policy over the Government when it comes to the unprecedented asylum seeking crisis; I’d expect their lead to return once an election is called as these single issue voters currently disillusioned, return to the only anti establishment party with a chance of forming a Government.
Putin supporters? Check
Immigration problem deniers? Check.
Trans ideology supporters? Check
Woke language users? Check
Betrayer of their electorate? Double check
Exactly the same bloody policies as ffg…? Check
For these reasons and so many more, they have become toxic and pointless
Interesting that SF are more popular with women than men. I’d say that’s solely because their leader is a woman.
The growth that Sinn Fein has seen in recent years has been with a younger open minded and progressive demographic. They don’t see Sinn Fein as a political wing of a terrorist organisation, whereas I will likely never break the connection. Those voters want to see Sinn Fein in power becuase they feel (justifiably) they have been let down by FFG – housing being the big one. “Give someone else a go so”. But these are also smart and considerate people.
Many of them, I suspect would be immigrants who have taken up Irish citizenship. I always get the feeling these people take their voting obligations very seriously too.
So when it comes the refugee “Ireland’s full” narrative, SF are caught between a rock and a hard place.
Drop Mary Lou. She’s very abrasive.
I was disgusted to hear they’re going to go shake Bidens hand next month. I expect FFFG to slime their way over there but SF have been heavily in support of Gaza for years now but when it comes to a true all out genocide they’re looking the other way. America is massive for SF in terms of fundraising but this is much more important. How can they meet the man who has enabled and prolonged this genocide? I’m a lifelong SF voter and I’m considering voting for PBP now.
So if support for SF is dropping and FFG is stagnating, who will benefit from those votes. Will that mean more Healy Rae’s in the next Dail?
>For the first time in a Business Post/Red C poll, 1 per cent of people polled said they would vote for a far-right party in Ireland.
I had thought for a long time that the political far right would grow after a SF government. Basically a drastic swing to the left, followed by a more drastic one to the right.
I guess I may need to bring forward my exit strategy planning.
Good news, their naive policies would be bad news for the economy.
FF/ FG our new ‘permanent government’ according to Phil Hogan
Would be interesting to see what happens, they have some very optimistic ideas about housing and healthcare etc which do not seem very feasible economically. Would we see another big recession? I’m not overly familiar with their stance on corporation tax or multinationals but I wonder if they will keep them happy.
They will have to announce big plans around housing to bounce back. Simply stating build more houses isn’t enough. They need a policy people believe will lead them to affordable home ownership. Any party that comes up with such a credible plan will win the next election easily.
For 3 years I’ve been doing this survey, along with 2 other people I know. The 3 of us are Sinn Fein
4 months ago and for the subsequent 3 months after the 3 of us aren’t sent the poll. Sinn fein massive drops in support
Last month get the survey, Sinn Fein bounce back.
Guess who didn’t get a survey again this month.
I could be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 22 just seems strange.
SF down, independents up. A direct consequence of failing to commit to tackling immigration I suppose. We’ll have more rural independent TDs who are not afraid to voice their opinion on immigration.
I’m in my early 40s. I think a lot of people such as myself want an alternative to FF and FG but where SF have dropped the ball on is that they haven’t done enough to convince swing voters such as myself that they are a genuine alternative to the status quo.
They have the size and potential to be the alternative option but based on a perhaps a bias due to their past, a failure to cut ties with Gerry Adams and co and just a general lack of confidence and conviction in their policy making and proposals put forward, I don’t think they have done enough. None of their TDs have really stood out or impressed me either.
One thing they need to do is convince the likes of me that if they are in power they are genuinely capable of running the country and improving things. For example you could question the fact that they went very quiet during COVID and wonder what would have happened of they were in power.
So what I’m trying to say is that rather than take a risk on SF, I believe a lot of people would rather stick with what’s tried and tested even though they are not entirely happy.
Another possible issue for them is that over the years a lot of my right leaning, blue collar friends would have supported SF even though SF are not right wing. Lads who aren’t into politics at all, would be anti immigration and have an pro republican viewpoint. The way things have changed now with the bombardment of right wing material on social media and the anti immigration/asylum seeking sentiment, many of them are scratching their heads as to why SF doesn’t hold the same stance so they could be losing support from that demographic or similar as well.
I think a lot of people in this country genuinely want an alternative to FF & FG. Labour, Greens, Social Democrats are not big enough to offer that alternative at present. SF had the potential to clear the decks, bring in some competent people and change the dynamics but I think they have failed so far.
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Although I’d say a large part of this decline is down to their lack of any difference in policy over the Government when it comes to the unprecedented asylum seeking crisis; I’d expect their lead to return once an election is called as these single issue voters currently disillusioned, return to the only anti establishment party with a chance of forming a Government.
Putin supporters? Check
Immigration problem deniers? Check.
Trans ideology supporters? Check
Woke language users? Check
Betrayer of their electorate? Double check
Exactly the same bloody policies as ffg…? Check
For these reasons and so many more, they have become toxic and pointless
Interesting that SF are more popular with women than men. I’d say that’s solely because their leader is a woman.
The growth that Sinn Fein has seen in recent years has been with a younger open minded and progressive demographic. They don’t see Sinn Fein as a political wing of a terrorist organisation, whereas I will likely never break the connection. Those voters want to see Sinn Fein in power becuase they feel (justifiably) they have been let down by FFG – housing being the big one. “Give someone else a go so”. But these are also smart and considerate people.
Many of them, I suspect would be immigrants who have taken up Irish citizenship. I always get the feeling these people take their voting obligations very seriously too.
So when it comes the refugee “Ireland’s full” narrative, SF are caught between a rock and a hard place.
Drop Mary Lou. She’s very abrasive.
I was disgusted to hear they’re going to go shake Bidens hand next month. I expect FFFG to slime their way over there but SF have been heavily in support of Gaza for years now but when it comes to a true all out genocide they’re looking the other way. America is massive for SF in terms of fundraising but this is much more important. How can they meet the man who has enabled and prolonged this genocide? I’m a lifelong SF voter and I’m considering voting for PBP now.
So if support for SF is dropping and FFG is stagnating, who will benefit from those votes. Will that mean more Healy Rae’s in the next Dail?
>For the first time in a Business Post/Red C poll, 1 per cent of people polled said they would vote for a far-right party in Ireland.
I had thought for a long time that the political far right would grow after a SF government. Basically a drastic swing to the left, followed by a more drastic one to the right.
I guess I may need to bring forward my exit strategy planning.
Good news, their naive policies would be bad news for the economy.
FF/ FG our new ‘permanent government’ according to Phil Hogan
Would be interesting to see what happens, they have some very optimistic ideas about housing and healthcare etc which do not seem very feasible economically. Would we see another big recession? I’m not overly familiar with their stance on corporation tax or multinationals but I wonder if they will keep them happy.
They will have to announce big plans around housing to bounce back. Simply stating build more houses isn’t enough. They need a policy people believe will lead them to affordable home ownership. Any party that comes up with such a credible plan will win the next election easily.
For 3 years I’ve been doing this survey, along with 2 other people I know. The 3 of us are Sinn Fein
4 months ago and for the subsequent 3 months after the 3 of us aren’t sent the poll. Sinn fein massive drops in support
Last month get the survey, Sinn Fein bounce back.
Guess who didn’t get a survey again this month.
I could be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 22 just seems strange.
SF down, independents up. A direct consequence of failing to commit to tackling immigration I suppose. We’ll have more rural independent TDs who are not afraid to voice their opinion on immigration.
I’m in my early 40s. I think a lot of people such as myself want an alternative to FF and FG but where SF have dropped the ball on is that they haven’t done enough to convince swing voters such as myself that they are a genuine alternative to the status quo.
They have the size and potential to be the alternative option but based on a perhaps a bias due to their past, a failure to cut ties with Gerry Adams and co and just a general lack of confidence and conviction in their policy making and proposals put forward, I don’t think they have done enough. None of their TDs have really stood out or impressed me either.
One thing they need to do is convince the likes of me that if they are in power they are genuinely capable of running the country and improving things. For example you could question the fact that they went very quiet during COVID and wonder what would have happened of they were in power.
So what I’m trying to say is that rather than take a risk on SF, I believe a lot of people would rather stick with what’s tried and tested even though they are not entirely happy.
Another possible issue for them is that over the years a lot of my right leaning, blue collar friends would have supported SF even though SF are not right wing. Lads who aren’t into politics at all, would be anti immigration and have an pro republican viewpoint. The way things have changed now with the bombardment of right wing material on social media and the anti immigration/asylum seeking sentiment, many of them are scratching their heads as to why SF doesn’t hold the same stance so they could be losing support from that demographic or similar as well.
I think a lot of people in this country genuinely want an alternative to FF & FG. Labour, Greens, Social Democrats are not big enough to offer that alternative at present. SF had the potential to clear the decks, bring in some competent people and change the dynamics but I think they have failed so far.