Pelosi Wants F.B.I. to Investigate Pro-Palestinian Protesters: “For them to call for a cease-fire is Mr. Putin’s message…Same thing with Ukraine. It’s about Putin’s message. I think some of these protesters are spontaneous, organic, sincere. Some, I think, are connected to Russia.”
by themimeofthemollies
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Incredible announcement by Pelosi here on how Putin’s evil
aggression is creating CHAOS by making its way into realms beyond Ukraine:
OP article no paywall
https://archive.ph/2024.01.29-001300/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/28/us/politics/nancy-pelosi-fbi-russia-gaza-protesters.html
“In a statement, a spokesperson for Ms. Pelosi pointed to a social media post by Ian Bremmer, a political scientist and professor at Columbia University, who wrote that
“putin benefits from continued war in gaza and expanded chaos in the middle east.”
Must read on Putin causing chaos around the globe:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/s/DWyOAlomj7
The resolve of the free world must remain stronger than any forces of chaos or destabilization from Putin or Xi as they attempt to impose their evil new world order.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/s/trjQZ1iJYJ
Finally
Russia might be trying to forward their message with some protesters, but the vast, vast majority recognize a genocide when they see it and that’s why they are protesting. Collective punishment of 2 million people is a human rights violation on a colossal scale.
Yet another example of a Democrat so bought off by Israeli lobby they can’t reason their way out of an ethical paper bag.
Good morning.
Man, this woman is just plain evil.
I think it’s more than some… in fact, there is an active and massive disinformation campaign spreading primarily through “X” to stoke instability within civilized countries
Well duh.
There has already been obvious red flags with how some of the most improvised people in South America, have managed to afford travel and resources to camp outside the Southern US border. At the same time Russia has taken record losses in Ukraine, using the same methods deployed on the Polish border.
The sooner the West realizes we’re at war with Russia. The faster we can return to peace. It’s clear Russia are hurting, and we need to make sure they fall indefinitely.
Kick in the war time economy, open up those job positions, and begin to drone strike every last of Putin’s network.
Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Russia benefits from the war in Gaza continuing, it takes focus and resources away from Ukraine.
Ruzzia, Iran, Qatar, China… all in the same plot. The understream of activities is much broader than random lost hippies in search for their identity. It’s an organized event, driven from mosques, imams, clerics and an (Islamic) network.
It would be good if not only the FBI would investigate, but likewise bodies in every country with protests because something much bigger is going on!
Of Course.When Wagner Boss Y.Prigozyn said ” We interfered are interfering and will continue to interfer”. He was telling the truth.
His bot farm has no problem admitting they helped Trump win last time.
Gross, I never thought I’d ever agree with her on anything.
Investigating protestors for wanting a ceasefire?? That sounds like the start of dangerous and very slippery slope…would it not be more appropriate to investigate that subsection of protestors who use slogans and show support for a literal terrorist regime who have genocide as a stated goal? (Yes, I’m talking about Hamas, before anyone thinks they’re being clever by saying “you mean Israel, right?”)
Unless you’re going to use the FBI to investigate vegetarians because Hitler didn’t eat meat, then it sounds wildly inappropriate to waste federal resources on people who say something you very loosely define as a “Putin talking point.”
Russia and Israel are both on the same team.
Agressor determined to take someone else’s land and destroy the native population.
But the USA can’t admit or see this and it’s politicians are flipping all kinds of mental gymnastics on both sides of the aisle to either support Israel or not support Russia.
One of the weapons available to the Russian disinformation campaign that I don’t think enough people realize is amplification. In a lot of ways its better for Russia to find genuine voices in the target country that echo sentiments that they agree with and then use their army of bots to like/retweet/repost/whatever so it makes it look like that person has more support than they actually do. It passes the “smell test” because it is from a source that looks legitimate, but their actual popularity is nowhere near the amount of interaction they have because bots have been boosting the engagement scores.
I never thought I would ever agree with Pelosi . But she’s right
The biggest lie in the international media is that it’s about either supporting Palestine or supporting Israel .
No , It’s about , not supporting the Palestinians , because they are nothing more than an Iranian proxy state armed by Russia .
Iran is the enemy of western civilization, and of religious freedom and women’s and gay rights .
You don’t have to like or support Israel, I don’t like their government and hate their leader , but I do think they have the right to take revenge after what happened. People seem to forget Hamas is the free elected government by the Palestinian people .
I also know that if Iran could do it , without being blown off the face of the earth , they would pay Hamas or hesbollah to send a bunch of militants across the southern border from Mexico and do the same exact thing in the United States they just did in Israel .
They hate Americans . We are the great Satan , the infidels , and they don’t believe we deserve to exist .
well then lets get some Ukrainian aid grandma, I think some members of congress should get looked into as working with the Russians more then people who protest what the UN court 15/2 says is a probable genocide. Not only that but this got the Houthis involved because of what’s going on with shipping bullshit then west bombs them and now a drone attacks Americans in Jordan, I’ve seen this sort of thing before it turns into a endless tit for tat because Netanyahu is a criminal who needs to stay in power for as long as he can so he doesn’t go to jail. Sorry had to vent this Israel Hamas thing has been going on since longer then I was born and no one wants to fix it, and the UN is a useless organization /end rant bottom line in my opinion is the Israel Palestine conflict U cant bomb ur way out of, Ukraine Russia can be that’s the diff. let me know ur opinions.
Well…yea. The gop is flooded with people working for Russia who doesn’t know this by now? Why do you think trump has been trying to destroy America since he got in lol. You just figuring this out?
Pelosi showing some of the cunning that kept her in the Speaker’s chair in the US House of Representatives for so long.
If she announced wanting to go after Russian spies in the anti-Ukraine contingent, there would be a massive backlash against her (mostly from Russian spies, of course).
Likewise with going after Russian spies among anti-Palestinian protestors.
But going after Russian spies among anti-Israeli protestors? Few in American politics can go openly against that. I personally suspect that a proper, successful investigation will turn up fairly few there. But it will also start to lead to other, longer threads, that as they are pulled, lead to … gosh what is that? … why, a whole bunch of anti-Ukraine lobbyists, all unregistered agents of a foreign power! Who knew — *who could have guessed?* — that this is where it would lead??
Pelosi will be shocked — *shocked!* — to find that Russian attempts to influence the Israel-Palestine crisis are actually connected back to Ukraine.
Shocked, I tell you.
She’s right, you know. Certain subreddits will hate it, but it’s true. All you have to do is connect the dots. The discontent in Gaza, Yemen, Ukraine, all roads eventually lead back to the Kremlin.
The whole Israel-Palestine thing is a very different kind of situation from Ukraine. Much messier, both literally and metaphorically.
The Middle East right now strikes me a being at least superficially similar to the political context of Europe going into WW1, and ironically is due in large part to the fallout of WW1 but let’s not digress. (Or maybe not ironically, whatever, it’s a direct line between them and now and if someone wants to argue about the best vocabulary to use here – have at it).
Her take on this is quite common for people born before about the 1960s while people born in the 80s and later are much more nuanced and less monolithic in general, and yes this is vastly oversimplified.
On that note, if you want to start a political fight in the US that does NOT break down along party lines or any other easily defined category, bring up Israel.
Edit: That Putin is taking advantage to fan flames and maybe even provide advisement or material I have no doubt, that and more is exactly his playbook. But that’s not the insinuation she’s making here, she is casting doubt on the knowledge and sincerity of younger generations that claim a point very different from hers.
Edit 2: autocorrect and predictive text are on full chaos mode tonight, feel free to point out any bizarre words that don’t make sense and I’ll try to correct, assuming I remember what I was trying to say.
FINALLY someone is waking up to the bull shit. October 7th was purely a move organized by Russia and it’s allies to cause chaos in the west and so far it has worked gloriously for them
Fuck me. Is this sub pro-Israel?
Putin is on survival mode right now. He is trying to cause as much chaos and distraction as possible, so that the west forgets about Ukraine.
Israel-Palestine, Serbia-Kosovo, Bosnia, the migrants he is trying to get into Europe, manipulation of fossil fuel prices, disinformation on social media, buying political parties across the west, etc.
I have no idea how he is capable of being so successful at dividing the west. I have no idea how anyone can look at how Hamas rules the Gaza Strip and what Hamas stands for and think „Yeah: I have no ties to this region but I am going to fight hard for this to become the no. 1 issue“
If Russia fails, we will have a much calmer and more peaceful world.
Where is the evidence that these pro Palestine protesters are pushing putin’s agenda? Otherwise, this Pelosi is just spreading misinformation herself.
Time to retire.