This isn’t just a London issue, births are down significantly from 10 years ago. Lots of schools will downsize and close.
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We’ve been pricing families out of the capital and raising cost of living so those who are here can’t stay, why are all the school kids leaving? Guess we’ll never know
People cannot afford to live in certain areas, people cannot afford to have kids, schools have less money and face spiralling debts, and teachers are burning out faster than ever. Schools are in for a rough few years across the country and it will be too late for us to do anything about it before those in charge consider real action.
Bollocks, when local authorities plan they oversize projections, no one is fleeing anywhere
Infrastructure and public services are in crisis, the rich have never been richer and the people won’t stop them. Ashamed to be British, wish I was French
2 bed flats cost half a million pounds. This is hardly a surprise.
They seem to have missed the growing knife crime in schools as a reason people with kids are moving out. Applies to teachers leaving as well.
Unless u come over on a boat then it’s 4 star hotels all the way
I expected preschool places were going to be harder to get so we started ours early to avoid it… Seems like nope. Thinking about switching schools and they all seem quite desperate for more
Maybe people can’t afford to have children when they can barely afford to eat and have heating on?
I moved out of London 17 years ago able to afford renting a 3bedroom house with money to spare VS now where I can barely managed a 2 bedroom house in one of the poorist parts of the UK, no chance of moving back though I would love to
This is a national thing and hardly a suprise. I forget which year but during Tony Blairs time Eastern Europeans were allowed to move and work here. They came, settled, mostly young so had families. We then played catch up for years building enough schools.
Now the influx has settled plus an explosion in the cost of living. You’re better off as a pensioner than a child in the eyes of the current government. So everyone, immigrants and natives, do not want kids. Plus we are all depressed and having less sex.
I thought the *Free Market* had all the solutions to this kind of thing?
I went to an event recently in Camden where amongst other things in was discussed that council was actively trying to get rid of not only the Camden City Farm but also all the poorer people who lived in s certain area (many families amongst them) in order to give the land to developers. All new housing built by developers in centralish London areas is too expensive for locals and families to buy. Families are being priced out.
The reality is we simply need far more people moving out of the capital so they can afford a better life, it’s only because so many choose to put up with it that the prices are so high.
Wait so people are leaving such that schools can’t stay open and yet house prices are still really high. Can someone economics this for me please, where’s the demand?
The plan is working, cant sell London to the mega rich if its full if riff raff.
Part of this is because families are priced out, part of it is because London schools are now so bad (and dangerous) people choose to move out of the city to raise kids.
Just to provide some context, my wife and I are really lucky to be high earners in the city. But we are late 20s / early 30s so didn’t get a chance to buy a house before prices went crazy (currently live in a one bed flat).
There is basically no reason for us to stay in London and work in high value jobs when we start a family. If we stay in London we earn a lot, which is then spent on taxes, mortgage, childcare, and potentially private school fees.
If we relocated closer to family in the west country, we could use our deposit to buy a house in cash, there would be no need to pay for childcare because one of us could quit jobs or rely on family, and the schools are more available / better quality so there no need to pay for private.
The economy is broken when there is no incentive to take a high paying job.
It is almost like breaking the ‘social contract’ has repercussions. Who could have foreseen that that if life got too expensive then people would stop having children? Then if there were fewer children we would need fewer schools.
At least we have a constant stream of people willing to move to the UK from abroad to prop up capitalisms need for constant growth.
Damn this country is a mess.
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This isn’t just a London issue, births are down significantly from 10 years ago. Lots of schools will downsize and close.
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We’ve been pricing families out of the capital and raising cost of living so those who are here can’t stay, why are all the school kids leaving? Guess we’ll never know
People cannot afford to live in certain areas, people cannot afford to have kids, schools have less money and face spiralling debts, and teachers are burning out faster than ever. Schools are in for a rough few years across the country and it will be too late for us to do anything about it before those in charge consider real action.
Bollocks, when local authorities plan they oversize projections, no one is fleeing anywhere
Infrastructure and public services are in crisis, the rich have never been richer and the people won’t stop them. Ashamed to be British, wish I was French
2 bed flats cost half a million pounds. This is hardly a surprise.
They seem to have missed the growing knife crime in schools as a reason people with kids are moving out. Applies to teachers leaving as well.
Unless u come over on a boat then it’s 4 star hotels all the way
I expected preschool places were going to be harder to get so we started ours early to avoid it… Seems like nope. Thinking about switching schools and they all seem quite desperate for more
Maybe people can’t afford to have children when they can barely afford to eat and have heating on?
I moved out of London 17 years ago able to afford renting a 3bedroom house with money to spare VS now where I can barely managed a 2 bedroom house in one of the poorist parts of the UK, no chance of moving back though I would love to
This is a national thing and hardly a suprise. I forget which year but during Tony Blairs time Eastern Europeans were allowed to move and work here. They came, settled, mostly young so had families. We then played catch up for years building enough schools.
Now the influx has settled plus an explosion in the cost of living. You’re better off as a pensioner than a child in the eyes of the current government. So everyone, immigrants and natives, do not want kids. Plus we are all depressed and having less sex.
I thought the *Free Market* had all the solutions to this kind of thing?
I went to an event recently in Camden where amongst other things in was discussed that council was actively trying to get rid of not only the Camden City Farm but also all the poorer people who lived in s certain area (many families amongst them) in order to give the land to developers. All new housing built by developers in centralish London areas is too expensive for locals and families to buy. Families are being priced out.
The reality is we simply need far more people moving out of the capital so they can afford a better life, it’s only because so many choose to put up with it that the prices are so high.
Wait so people are leaving such that schools can’t stay open and yet house prices are still really high. Can someone economics this for me please, where’s the demand?
The plan is working, cant sell London to the mega rich if its full if riff raff.
Part of this is because families are priced out, part of it is because London schools are now so bad (and dangerous) people choose to move out of the city to raise kids.
Just to provide some context, my wife and I are really lucky to be high earners in the city. But we are late 20s / early 30s so didn’t get a chance to buy a house before prices went crazy (currently live in a one bed flat).
There is basically no reason for us to stay in London and work in high value jobs when we start a family. If we stay in London we earn a lot, which is then spent on taxes, mortgage, childcare, and potentially private school fees.
If we relocated closer to family in the west country, we could use our deposit to buy a house in cash, there would be no need to pay for childcare because one of us could quit jobs or rely on family, and the schools are more available / better quality so there no need to pay for private.
The economy is broken when there is no incentive to take a high paying job.
It is almost like breaking the ‘social contract’ has repercussions. Who could have foreseen that that if life got too expensive then people would stop having children? Then if there were fewer children we would need fewer schools.
At least we have a constant stream of people willing to move to the UK from abroad to prop up capitalisms need for constant growth.
Damn this country is a mess.