It’s a UK government policy/law change so it’s being treated as a wise and responsible thing to do, they haven’t dug around looking for the pro smoking lobby in the same way that they do for a Scottish government policy.
I think that this is a UK government policy that they will give up on because the right wing of the tory party see it as part of the nany state.
If done by a devolved government it would be very easy to smuggle tobacco across an open border.
I think it would work. At some point instead of teenagers smoking to look older people in their 20s will avoid smoking because they don’t want to look old enough to smoke, possibly this would be around 2034 when the minimum smoking age would be 25 or probably a bit later.
Why would anyone be against this? Liz Truss is definitely mentally deficient.
I thought this had been shit canned !
It’s a great idea . That and banning single use vapes.
This is completely re…. hashing the drug law that causes drug supply to be a dangerous gable of rat posion, milk powder, and cat nip.
If you want to reduce smoking you keep it legal and tax fuck out of it, and untax vaping.
You been in a coma pet? It was all over the news
I think it’s brilliant.
As a smoker myself, yeah, just kill it dead for the next generation. This is something we should’ve stopped when we were stopping putting cocaine in fizzy juice.
Some kids are still gonna try, etc. but this is going to save so many lives.
Yer blind
New Zealand went for it first, and then a year before implementing it they realised it was never going work and threw it out.
It is a policy spin story that makes good headlines but is never actually going to be executed.
Great stuff, I think it’s brilliant. Although it does amuse me to think there will be a time where some pensioners will have to ask their more able bodied peers to go to the shops for their 20 deck.
I really didn’t think many people would like this bill, I mean I’m a smoker and the thought of not being able to smoke as an adult seems controlling imo. Most smokers know they’re killing themselves but would rather live happy than live healthy that’s my take at least I have few vices in life and smoking is one of them that I won’t let it go any time soon. I get it’ll stop a lot of new generation becoming smokers but at what point does it become stupid to be limiting it. Like imagine a 50 year old being denied cigs in 2060. Not to mention that they’ll just get it off a dealer and smoke anyway in which none of that money will actually benefit the country. I don’t think we’re in any position to turn down a market that keeps money in like the tobacco industry.
Yeah others have said it didn’t work in New Zealand so why would it work here, and also I really don’t think this law would ever be passed as think about how much money the government make off the tax of cigs/ tobacco
Wish they had that for 1974
This isn’t a Scottish policy, its a Westminster one is it not?
Bad decision. Just highly restrict it. Like hard booze in Ontario, Canada. It’s a bit of a nuisance as you need to go to LCBO. No supermarket etc.
Just make a few shops per town where you can buy them. Make them government controlled so no company profits from this.
Done
The UK just can’t stop banning shit
Nobody is mentioning the money the UK government makes from tobacco and tobacco product sales. Once smoking drops to 4% or less of the population the government suddenly has a shortfall, that lost revenue has to come from somewhere, what else will they tax as heavily as they tax tobacco?
They’ll hammer even more tax onto petrol and diesel, and they’ll claim it’s their way of pushing people onto expensive electric cars.
They’ll push more tax onto alcohol, claiming it’s for health reasons, hell they might even add vat to children’s clothing and shoes.
One thing they won’t tax is the wealthy or the very wealthy.
I’m sorry but this is nanny state bs. No I don’t smoke but I believe adults should be allowed to determine what they put in their bodies. Banning substances doesn’t work and only creates black markets.
What a lot of people aren’t mentioning:
The people born before 2009 don’t care if people born after can smoke.
The people born after 2009 don’t want to smoke *cigarettes*.
No black market here. Just a very good policy to improve public health.
Good. Nobody needs cigarettes.
…… and a free motor home as well.
They did a similar thing in New Zealand. That did get some press coverage at the time because it was a first.
Roken is dodelik
The year is 2050,, 41 year olds gather outside supermarkets asking 42 year olds and older to buy them fags.
I don’t smoke and I hate the smell of smoke.
However, banning the sale of tobacco will lead to a black market and reduction of tax money from tobacco.
This will affect the NHS directly and will lead to privitation
Criminals and gangs are celebrating for their newly created market
Worked in other countries. It will limit but not stop kids from smoking.
The smoking age now is 18 doesn’t mean anyone under 18 doesn’t smoke (my wife started at 15) as the upper age gets higher in 20/30 years it is going to be weird asking a 30/40 year old for id to.buy cigarettes.
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It’s a UK government policy/law change so it’s being treated as a wise and responsible thing to do, they haven’t dug around looking for the pro smoking lobby in the same way that they do for a Scottish government policy.
I think that this is a UK government policy that they will give up on because the right wing of the tory party see it as part of the nany state.
If done by a devolved government it would be very easy to smuggle tobacco across an open border.
I think it would work. At some point instead of teenagers smoking to look older people in their 20s will avoid smoking because they don’t want to look old enough to smoke, possibly this would be around 2034 when the minimum smoking age would be 25 or probably a bit later.
Why would anyone be against this? Liz Truss is definitely mentally deficient.
I thought this had been shit canned !
It’s a great idea . That and banning single use vapes.
This is completely re…. hashing the drug law that causes drug supply to be a dangerous gable of rat posion, milk powder, and cat nip.
If you want to reduce smoking you keep it legal and tax fuck out of it, and untax vaping.
You been in a coma pet? It was all over the news
I think it’s brilliant.
As a smoker myself, yeah, just kill it dead for the next generation. This is something we should’ve stopped when we were stopping putting cocaine in fizzy juice.
Some kids are still gonna try, etc. but this is going to save so many lives.
Yer blind
New Zealand went for it first, and then a year before implementing it they realised it was never going work and threw it out.
It is a policy spin story that makes good headlines but is never actually going to be executed.
Great stuff, I think it’s brilliant. Although it does amuse me to think there will be a time where some pensioners will have to ask their more able bodied peers to go to the shops for their 20 deck.
I really didn’t think many people would like this bill, I mean I’m a smoker and the thought of not being able to smoke as an adult seems controlling imo. Most smokers know they’re killing themselves but would rather live happy than live healthy that’s my take at least I have few vices in life and smoking is one of them that I won’t let it go any time soon. I get it’ll stop a lot of new generation becoming smokers but at what point does it become stupid to be limiting it. Like imagine a 50 year old being denied cigs in 2060. Not to mention that they’ll just get it off a dealer and smoke anyway in which none of that money will actually benefit the country. I don’t think we’re in any position to turn down a market that keeps money in like the tobacco industry.
I think there’s less focus on that because it’s not a new announcement, [the government announced it in October last year](https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-to-create-smokefree-generation-by-ending-cigarette-sales-to-those-born-on-or-after-1-january-2009).
Legally.
Yeah others have said it didn’t work in New Zealand so why would it work here, and also I really don’t think this law would ever be passed as think about how much money the government make off the tax of cigs/ tobacco
Wish they had that for 1974
This isn’t a Scottish policy, its a Westminster one is it not?
Bad decision. Just highly restrict it. Like hard booze in Ontario, Canada. It’s a bit of a nuisance as you need to go to LCBO. No supermarket etc.
Just make a few shops per town where you can buy them. Make them government controlled so no company profits from this.
Done
The UK just can’t stop banning shit
Nobody is mentioning the money the UK government makes from tobacco and tobacco product sales. Once smoking drops to 4% or less of the population the government suddenly has a shortfall, that lost revenue has to come from somewhere, what else will they tax as heavily as they tax tobacco?
They’ll hammer even more tax onto petrol and diesel, and they’ll claim it’s their way of pushing people onto expensive electric cars.
They’ll push more tax onto alcohol, claiming it’s for health reasons, hell they might even add vat to children’s clothing and shoes.
One thing they won’t tax is the wealthy or the very wealthy.
I’m sorry but this is nanny state bs. No I don’t smoke but I believe adults should be allowed to determine what they put in their bodies. Banning substances doesn’t work and only creates black markets.
What a lot of people aren’t mentioning:
The people born before 2009 don’t care if people born after can smoke.
The people born after 2009 don’t want to smoke *cigarettes*.
No black market here. Just a very good policy to improve public health.
Good. Nobody needs cigarettes.
…… and a free motor home as well.
They did a similar thing in New Zealand. That did get some press coverage at the time because it was a first.
Roken is dodelik
The year is 2050,, 41 year olds gather outside supermarkets asking 42 year olds and older to buy them fags.
I don’t smoke and I hate the smell of smoke.
However, banning the sale of tobacco will lead to a black market and reduction of tax money from tobacco.
This will affect the NHS directly and will lead to privitation
Criminals and gangs are celebrating for their newly created market
Worked in other countries. It will limit but not stop kids from smoking.
The smoking age now is 18 doesn’t mean anyone under 18 doesn’t smoke (my wife started at 15) as the upper age gets higher in 20/30 years it is going to be weird asking a 30/40 year old for id to.buy cigarettes.
It is a step towards phasing it out.