So are these dopes being paid not to cut but cutting anyway and doing it in a protected bog for good measure?
*280 instances of eco-terrorism.
Half of all the documented cases have taken place at a handful of protected areas. The key trouble spots where significant cutting continues are Monivea Bog and Barraoughter Bog in Co Galway, Mouds Bog in Co Kildare, and Callow Bog in Co Roscommon.
Shower of cunts
These are crimes for which there should be prosecuted, no question.
However, a huge part of the problem is that it’s a large amount of the people buying turf do not see the issue with it, either willfully or innocently. It’s what they’ve always done and that’s justification enough.
I have family members that are as guilty as anyone. The rebuttal of “sure there’s worse stuff coming out of power stations in China/the States”
It’s going to be a tough one to overcome.
For peats sake
Look at this shite from the Free State again
> There was a 12- to 18-year gap between sites being designated for protection and detailed conservation objectives being drawn up to ensure raised bogs are protected.
What do they do all day long?
Now the Irish Times and assorted jackeens from Teagasc and co are going to spend their time trying to demonise your granny for making a cup of tea on the range while they quaff their Americanos made on Italian coffee machines heated with fracked gas from the US and piped dictatorship gas from Russia.
Who is exporting the half mil tonnes of peat? Bord na fucking Mona, is who. They’re greenwashing their strip mining milled-peat activities with ol’ turbines and the Dublin-based media is just going along with it, kicking the small holder in the bollix as they go.
There was an article in the Irish Times once where one of their hacks literally took a helicopter to survey the bogs and decided from that vantage point that regular poor people needed more punitive measures to stop them saving turf cos global warming that’s why. Who would save turf if you didn’t need to? It’s hardly a leisure activity. The opposite, in fact. It’s laborious.
The amount of not understanding what actually goes on in a bog by campaigners agin it could fill a low bank with trailers of turf.
God help people wanting to stay warm
Ireland giveth and Irish taketh away..
They should simply destroy the drainage works which allow machinery to access the areas. This is also the primary action needed to have the bogs start to return to generating turf also.
If the bog is wet enough, machinery is not going to be able to access it. In theory people could manually cut turf using hand tools but I cant see that happening.
Also some owners of land in SAC’s get compensation – and others dont. It should be made universal, but also contingent on them being protected by the owner. If the owners stand to lose money by allowing turf cutting they are a lot more likely to protect them.
You’re going to have to win these people over. Turf is a very cheap fuel source.
We used to do it before I moved away. The aul lad does it now, but he won’t be long at it I should think, it’s a lot of effort for him alone.
There’s a bit of effort in footing and bringing home a plot of turf and the weather can make complete shite of it, but all going well you’d have fuel for the winter for about €250 and the cost of diesel for the jeep.
As heating your house goes, it’s cheap.
Most homes in the country have Kero boilers and kero is bloody expensive now, I remeber in 2000/2001 it was €0.16/l, now it’s pushing a euro a litre and more if you put smaller quantities in as you cannot afford €500 at once to fill the tank.
The alternative? Solid fuel and a back boiler. Logs, briquettes, turf etc.
There’s no mains gas in the sticks. Using electricity to heat a home is horrifically expensive.
Heat pumps require a big initial investment in infrastructure and insulation.
What’s left for rural Ireland. Very easy for town folk to look down on these people when you flick on a tap and hot water comes out of thap via the combi boiler.
Provide a sustainable way to heat a home, provide grants for heat pumps and biomass and you’ll see a lot of these people move away from turf. You’ll never change the die hards but you’ll minimise a lot of the damage.
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So are these dopes being paid not to cut but cutting anyway and doing it in a protected bog for good measure?
*280 instances of eco-terrorism.
Half of all the documented cases have taken place at a handful of protected areas. The key trouble spots where significant cutting continues are Monivea Bog and Barraoughter Bog in Co Galway, Mouds Bog in Co Kildare, and Callow Bog in Co Roscommon.
Shower of cunts
These are crimes for which there should be prosecuted, no question.
However, a huge part of the problem is that it’s a large amount of the people buying turf do not see the issue with it, either willfully or innocently. It’s what they’ve always done and that’s justification enough.
I have family members that are as guilty as anyone. The rebuttal of “sure there’s worse stuff coming out of power stations in China/the States”
It’s going to be a tough one to overcome.
For peats sake
Look at this shite from the Free State again
> There was a 12- to 18-year gap between sites being designated for protection and detailed conservation objectives being drawn up to ensure raised bogs are protected.
What do they do all day long?
Now the Irish Times and assorted jackeens from Teagasc and co are going to spend their time trying to demonise your granny for making a cup of tea on the range while they quaff their Americanos made on Italian coffee machines heated with fracked gas from the US and piped dictatorship gas from Russia.
Who is exporting the half mil tonnes of peat? Bord na fucking Mona, is who. They’re greenwashing their strip mining milled-peat activities with ol’ turbines and the Dublin-based media is just going along with it, kicking the small holder in the bollix as they go.
There was an article in the Irish Times once where one of their hacks literally took a helicopter to survey the bogs and decided from that vantage point that regular poor people needed more punitive measures to stop them saving turf cos global warming that’s why. Who would save turf if you didn’t need to? It’s hardly a leisure activity. The opposite, in fact. It’s laborious.
The amount of not understanding what actually goes on in a bog by campaigners agin it could fill a low bank with trailers of turf.
God help people wanting to stay warm
Ireland giveth and Irish taketh away..
They should simply destroy the drainage works which allow machinery to access the areas. This is also the primary action needed to have the bogs start to return to generating turf also.
If the bog is wet enough, machinery is not going to be able to access it. In theory people could manually cut turf using hand tools but I cant see that happening.
Also some owners of land in SAC’s get compensation – and others dont. It should be made universal, but also contingent on them being protected by the owner. If the owners stand to lose money by allowing turf cutting they are a lot more likely to protect them.
You’re going to have to win these people over. Turf is a very cheap fuel source.
We used to do it before I moved away. The aul lad does it now, but he won’t be long at it I should think, it’s a lot of effort for him alone.
There’s a bit of effort in footing and bringing home a plot of turf and the weather can make complete shite of it, but all going well you’d have fuel for the winter for about €250 and the cost of diesel for the jeep.
As heating your house goes, it’s cheap.
Most homes in the country have Kero boilers and kero is bloody expensive now, I remeber in 2000/2001 it was €0.16/l, now it’s pushing a euro a litre and more if you put smaller quantities in as you cannot afford €500 at once to fill the tank.
The alternative? Solid fuel and a back boiler. Logs, briquettes, turf etc.
There’s no mains gas in the sticks. Using electricity to heat a home is horrifically expensive.
Heat pumps require a big initial investment in infrastructure and insulation.
What’s left for rural Ireland. Very easy for town folk to look down on these people when you flick on a tap and hot water comes out of thap via the combi boiler.
Provide a sustainable way to heat a home, provide grants for heat pumps and biomass and you’ll see a lot of these people move away from turf. You’ll never change the die hards but you’ll minimise a lot of the damage.
Fair play to them