MI5 working over time on the controlled opposition.
This is how they start. Look at the far right parties in Europe, a lot of em started off as complete nutters. Actual neo nazis
Laugh at them now if you want.
In 2013 in Italy, a right wing party claimed less that 2% of the national vote.
Leader of that party is now prime minister.
EDIT: Forgot to say what country.
The (sweet) FA is the only one to really be worried about here I feel, they will co-opt the grievances of rural Ireland and manipulate them to be anti-environment, anti-immigrant and anti-EU, like we’ve seen with the farmer’s parties on the continent. I can see them gaining a lot of traction very quickly, unfortunately.
The rest of them are just frothing idiots.
> called the accommodation a “plantation centre” – a phrase that invokes the ‘Great Plantation’, an Irish-specific version of the Great Replacement Theory.
Amazing. God damn Brits are at it again even when it’s the Georgians.
Who can we blame for this?
In fairness, Ireland does currently have an open borders policy, as long as you come here to claim asylum. If you try to come here legally from outside the EU to work, it’s really difficult. This isn’t some far right conspiracy, it’s fact. It was only a matter of time before some party took advantage of it to push a far right agenda.
Follow the money. Bet most of these are Russian funded to try and sow instability in Europe
Peter Casey got ¼ of the presidential vote for being anti-traveller. Imagine if he expanded to being anti-migrant too?
As a gay foreigner living in Ireland, what are the chances of me becoming dangerously unwelcome in the near future?
The irony in an Irish anti immigration movement 😂
The days of sinn féin having all the protest vote to themselves seem to be numbered , all these dar right splinter groups will only eat into their vote
Who are they? Cunts. They’re cunts.
The Irish birth rate is down by almost 50% since 2008
There’s gonna be quite a radical demographic change
Answer: a bunch of gobshites.
Who are they? A pack of gobshites the lot.
The National Socialist Irish Workers’ Party.
There goes 1/4 of the shinners core vote.
Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or anti-immigration parties who is footing the bill for them.
Funny they have no problem with foreigners meddling in Irish affairs when it’s signing their cheques, eh?
Gobshites! But after reading [Niamh & Sean](https://old.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1ae1pru/niamh_sean/) post I am fucking depressed, and not even surprised those kind of cunts are getting support. It is getting increasingly dificult living in this country with housing crisis and cost of living, and imigrants are the easiest to point the finger at
Fought for independence for centuries while somehow maintaining our identity and culture, then willingly ethnically cleansed ourselves from our own land
You can’t buy an election without a generation of disenfranchisement. It’s terribly useful and conveniently unrefutable to be able blame the vacuous ‘others’ – the left-wing version of blaming George Soros – but the problems can be generally attributed to successive failures in governance.
The senior ranks of our legal and hotelier profession are being unduly enriched at the expense of basic things like societal cohesion, housing, and provisionment of basic services like Education and Medicine. For the sake of cushy government contracts, these groups are currently ghettoising completely unsuitable rural communities by overloading or outright converting existing service centres and amenities to facilitate those who circumvent all legal processes to migrate to Ireland.
People are not voting ‘racist’, or indeed voting against migrants. They’re voting against a cabal of vested interests who have effectively dismantled the foundational layer of Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs in contemporary Irish Society.
To claim otherwise is at best disingenuous and at worst deeply deeply dangerous in terms of allowing power to the *actual* xenophobic agitators waiting in the shadows who are happy to claim to represent them on a single-issue basis, but who then aim to regress our civil rights or societal tolerance in other disturbing ways.
There are many who do not know they are fascists but will find it out when the time comes.
I’ve had a lot of arguments with family and friends that the anti-refugee protestors aren’t far right etc etc or that “people nowadays just throw the word fascist around”. Do some people use far-right as a slur to merely shout down opponents? yeah, probably. Doesn’t give you a get out of jail free card to espouse any old shit you want.
I recently learned of a really great definition of fascism Roger Griffin proposed in his book The Nature of Fascism. I believe it’s a hugely popular book in the states, and smarter people than me will know more, but I haven’t actually read it. I just encountered the term “palingenetic ultranationalism”. Sounds wordy, but palingenesis in this context = a type of rebirth through violence, and ultranationalism, that’s obvious.
Fascist movements of all stripes need to have this rebirth mythos because fascism can only be a response to economic hardship and social strife, not peace and prosperity. So there first of all needs to be a sort of established order that people want to overthrow, and where communists say that’s the bourgeoisie and the end result will be a dictatorship of the proletariat, to fascists the establishment is the woke elite and their social progress. When the communists overthrow the bourgeois, we’re promised a new economic order where the worker is more powerful. When the fascists overthrow the decadent liberals, their promise is that things will go back to the way they once were.
Read the rhetoric of the anti-migrant cohort online for five minutes, you’ll see extremely intense arguments along this line. You can hate leftists as much as you like, you have to admit never in the history of our modern state have they had bloodlust quite like the National Party or Irish Freedom Party’s vision for the future. You have hundreds of people earnestly commenting on articles about our Eurovision entry that it is a sign of the collapse of civilisation in Ireland, and we need to wipe the slate clean and return to a “traditional” Ireland. In my experience it’s become tolerated again to refer to gay people as everything from unnatural to satanic online. I wonder how long it will be before these sort of attacks make their way back into real life discourse.
See how easy it has been to manipulate a large percentage of the population. A country that until recently didn’t have much of a racist problem !
Brazil had Bolsonaro as a meme before he was elected president. Comedy shows would interview him because of how crazy he was.
Completely unrelated question apropos nothing at all; is it illegal to cut down election posters?
The cuntywunty party is one of them
More and more I’m feeling less and less welcome here.
I’d really hoped that Ireland wouldn’t follow the UK down this road but here we are.
To stop this all that needs to happen is there to enough housing, medical care and education for all.
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Great to see them split already.
MI5 working over time on the controlled opposition.
This is how they start. Look at the far right parties in Europe, a lot of em started off as complete nutters. Actual neo nazis
Laugh at them now if you want.
In 2013 in Italy, a right wing party claimed less that 2% of the national vote.
Leader of that party is now prime minister.
EDIT: Forgot to say what country.
The (sweet) FA is the only one to really be worried about here I feel, they will co-opt the grievances of rural Ireland and manipulate them to be anti-environment, anti-immigrant and anti-EU, like we’ve seen with the farmer’s parties on the continent. I can see them gaining a lot of traction very quickly, unfortunately.
The rest of them are just frothing idiots.
> called the accommodation a “plantation centre” – a phrase that invokes the ‘Great Plantation’, an Irish-specific version of the Great Replacement Theory.
Amazing. God damn Brits are at it again even when it’s the Georgians.
Who can we blame for this?
In fairness, Ireland does currently have an open borders policy, as long as you come here to claim asylum. If you try to come here legally from outside the EU to work, it’s really difficult. This isn’t some far right conspiracy, it’s fact. It was only a matter of time before some party took advantage of it to push a far right agenda.
Follow the money. Bet most of these are Russian funded to try and sow instability in Europe
Peter Casey got ¼ of the presidential vote for being anti-traveller. Imagine if he expanded to being anti-migrant too?
As a gay foreigner living in Ireland, what are the chances of me becoming dangerously unwelcome in the near future?
The irony in an Irish anti immigration movement 😂
The days of sinn féin having all the protest vote to themselves seem to be numbered , all these dar right splinter groups will only eat into their vote
Who are they? Cunts. They’re cunts.
The Irish birth rate is down by almost 50% since 2008
There’s gonna be quite a radical demographic change
Answer: a bunch of gobshites.
Who are they? A pack of gobshites the lot.
The National Socialist Irish Workers’ Party.
There goes 1/4 of the shinners core vote.
Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or anti-immigration parties who is footing the bill for them.
Funny they have no problem with foreigners meddling in Irish affairs when it’s signing their cheques, eh?
Gobshites! But after reading [Niamh & Sean](https://old.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1ae1pru/niamh_sean/) post I am fucking depressed, and not even surprised those kind of cunts are getting support. It is getting increasingly dificult living in this country with housing crisis and cost of living, and imigrants are the easiest to point the finger at
Fought for independence for centuries while somehow maintaining our identity and culture, then willingly ethnically cleansed ourselves from our own land
You can’t buy an election without a generation of disenfranchisement. It’s terribly useful and conveniently unrefutable to be able blame the vacuous ‘others’ – the left-wing version of blaming George Soros – but the problems can be generally attributed to successive failures in governance.
The senior ranks of our legal and hotelier profession are being unduly enriched at the expense of basic things like societal cohesion, housing, and provisionment of basic services like Education and Medicine. For the sake of cushy government contracts, these groups are currently ghettoising completely unsuitable rural communities by overloading or outright converting existing service centres and amenities to facilitate those who circumvent all legal processes to migrate to Ireland.
People are not voting ‘racist’, or indeed voting against migrants. They’re voting against a cabal of vested interests who have effectively dismantled the foundational layer of Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs in contemporary Irish Society.
To claim otherwise is at best disingenuous and at worst deeply deeply dangerous in terms of allowing power to the *actual* xenophobic agitators waiting in the shadows who are happy to claim to represent them on a single-issue basis, but who then aim to regress our civil rights or societal tolerance in other disturbing ways.
There are many who do not know they are fascists but will find it out when the time comes.
I’ve had a lot of arguments with family and friends that the anti-refugee protestors aren’t far right etc etc or that “people nowadays just throw the word fascist around”. Do some people use far-right as a slur to merely shout down opponents? yeah, probably. Doesn’t give you a get out of jail free card to espouse any old shit you want.
I recently learned of a really great definition of fascism Roger Griffin proposed in his book The Nature of Fascism. I believe it’s a hugely popular book in the states, and smarter people than me will know more, but I haven’t actually read it. I just encountered the term “palingenetic ultranationalism”. Sounds wordy, but palingenesis in this context = a type of rebirth through violence, and ultranationalism, that’s obvious.
Fascist movements of all stripes need to have this rebirth mythos because fascism can only be a response to economic hardship and social strife, not peace and prosperity. So there first of all needs to be a sort of established order that people want to overthrow, and where communists say that’s the bourgeoisie and the end result will be a dictatorship of the proletariat, to fascists the establishment is the woke elite and their social progress. When the communists overthrow the bourgeois, we’re promised a new economic order where the worker is more powerful. When the fascists overthrow the decadent liberals, their promise is that things will go back to the way they once were.
Read the rhetoric of the anti-migrant cohort online for five minutes, you’ll see extremely intense arguments along this line. You can hate leftists as much as you like, you have to admit never in the history of our modern state have they had bloodlust quite like the National Party or Irish Freedom Party’s vision for the future. You have hundreds of people earnestly commenting on articles about our Eurovision entry that it is a sign of the collapse of civilisation in Ireland, and we need to wipe the slate clean and return to a “traditional” Ireland. In my experience it’s become tolerated again to refer to gay people as everything from unnatural to satanic online. I wonder how long it will be before these sort of attacks make their way back into real life discourse.
See how easy it has been to manipulate a large percentage of the population. A country that until recently didn’t have much of a racist problem !
Brazil had Bolsonaro as a meme before he was elected president. Comedy shows would interview him because of how crazy he was.
Completely unrelated question apropos nothing at all; is it illegal to cut down election posters?
The cuntywunty party is one of them
More and more I’m feeling less and less welcome here.
I’d really hoped that Ireland wouldn’t follow the UK down this road but here we are.
To stop this all that needs to happen is there to enough housing, medical care and education for all.
The next elections will be telling.