Those are mental numbers, that’s not sustainable in the slightest. Where’s the infrastructure being built to keep up with the massive increase in population?
How many new schools, hospitals, GP surgeries etc are being planned now to tackle this increase? If we think things are bad now we’re in for a rude awakening.
I for one can’t wait for my wages to remain stagnant due to cheap labour
So we have our new army reservists?
They can gain skills and earn a real wage while protecting the country they have chosen to settle in
Crippling cost of living, crumbling NHS and a housing crisis. Great news! Things can only get better!
At what point does the Great Replacement stop being a racist conspiracy theory and just become reality?
These are utterly ridiculous numbers.
Insanity. We simply do not have the resources for these numbers.
Maybe don’t cripple industries like health and care, to the point they rely on immigration to survive then?
The provisional estimate of total long-term immigration for year ending (YE) June 2023 was 1.2 million, while emigration was 508,000, meaning that net migration was 672,000; most people arriving to the UK in the YE June 2023 were non-EU nationals (968,000), followed by EU (129,000) and British (84,000).Nov 23, 2023
Absolutely mental. And why is this treated as though it’s an inevitability when it is a political choice?
Remember when we left Europe to control immigration.
Remember that promise guys.
Then under the tories it went up massively.
We should vote the tories in again, they’ll definitely solve it.
Whether this is a good or bad thing is a whole different discussion. What is ridiculous about this is no one wants this, it’s a defining issue at almost every election and the party that does the best job of convincing the country they will lower immigration usually wins. And in-spite of that, everyone is ignored. To all the people out there who think what policies a party is running with or that everyone should vote because your vote matters, how is your head so far buried in the sand? The political will of the people is overwhelmingly ignored on key issues time and time again. The system isn’t just broken, it’s a complete masquerade pretending to be a democracy.
If only governments had the powers to you know…do something about it.
1% growth? Bugger all. Schools are closing around the country due to lack of children. Taxes are going up as the population gets older and sicker. Our birth rate is 1.8, with 2.1 needed to keep the population stable. A lot of these reports seem to forget that the boomers will die but need to be paid for. Medical costs, pension costs etc.
The EU provided excellent immigration, people would come over, work for a few years, pay their taxes, send money home and then leave. That’s how your average family in Poland will have more wealth than your average british family by 2030.
Tories have fucked us totally. If you’re gen x, millennial or gen Z & you want your government pension when you retire IF you get to retire, then immigration is a must.
And NONE of that “well I’ve paid NI all my life. I’ve paid by Stamp!!!”. That’s NOT how it works.
So I appreciate the Tories are likely to be out soon- but what is their actual stance on this? They seem to simultaneously be anti immigration (most loudly illegal immigration), but numbers have only increased since Brexit. Is it a deliberate in order to try to increase growth, or is it simply incompetency? I’m genuinely curious as I wonder if the party itself really knows what’s going on.
If we could actually build houses and infrastructure this would be great news. Bringing in a lot of healthy young people to prop up the boomers is something we really need.
We’ve got an aging population and native people just aren’t having enough children, without immigration it’s going to get really economically tough, especially getting care in 30-40 years time when many people reading this will need it.
Remember that when you’re saving money in a pension you’re hoping to use it to bid for labour you need when you’re old, and if there’s a lot of people with pension pots and a few workers you’re going to need to bid really high and potentially not get much for your money.
Maybe it’s time to look at different models other than those that rely on constant population growth.
So literally what they’re saying is we need more migrant workers to fuel our workforce of more migrants who have a much higher birth rate than the average UK citizen. Please, make it make sense because I absolutely don’t understand why we are doing this.
Btw people are saying we need it or our economy is stagnating, well I don’t know about you but I guarantee you those aren’t 6 million doctors and engineers, why are we getting more and more cheap labour for menial jobs which will be replaced by automation anyway? Are we just asking for more people who want to live on welfare and child benefits while undermining our society? Maybe we should focus on skilled European labour rather than unskilled Middle Eastern and African labour?
So 0.8% population growth per year? That’s nothing if we want to meaningfully grow our economy. At least they’re not projecting a population decrease, which would be significantly worse.
This is payback for what the British did in the past /s
But according to some this will have no impact on housing, nhs waiting times, crime or infrastructure. Absolutely no impact whatsoever
I know the UK needs high immigration to grow the economy but geez. Those numbers are unsustainable and will negatively impact the local populations living standards.
Call me racist or xenophobic or whatever but I like Britain as it is (outside the big cities). I don’t want it all to become like central London.
I still don’t understand why everyone wants to come here rather than stay in mainland Europe. What does the UK offer apart from shit weather and collapsing public infrastructure?
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>— UK population to soar by 6.6 million, or 10%, between 2021 and [2036], says ONS
>— driven by immigration: net migration 6.1 million over that period
>— from 2028, there will be long-term net immigration of 315,000 a year
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1752274935114792977?t=EMnswiC9Y9x-pxc07B8QIA&s=19
Those are mental numbers, that’s not sustainable in the slightest. Where’s the infrastructure being built to keep up with the massive increase in population?
How many new schools, hospitals, GP surgeries etc are being planned now to tackle this increase? If we think things are bad now we’re in for a rude awakening.
I for one can’t wait for my wages to remain stagnant due to cheap labour
So we have our new army reservists?
They can gain skills and earn a real wage while protecting the country they have chosen to settle in
Crippling cost of living, crumbling NHS and a housing crisis. Great news! Things can only get better!
At what point does the Great Replacement stop being a racist conspiracy theory and just become reality?
These are utterly ridiculous numbers.
Insanity. We simply do not have the resources for these numbers.
Maybe don’t cripple industries like health and care, to the point they rely on immigration to survive then?
The provisional estimate of total long-term immigration for year ending (YE) June 2023 was 1.2 million, while emigration was 508,000, meaning that net migration was 672,000; most people arriving to the UK in the YE June 2023 were non-EU nationals (968,000), followed by EU (129,000) and British (84,000).Nov 23, 2023
Absolutely mental. And why is this treated as though it’s an inevitability when it is a political choice?
Remember when we left Europe to control immigration.
Remember that promise guys.
Then under the tories it went up massively.
We should vote the tories in again, they’ll definitely solve it.
Whether this is a good or bad thing is a whole different discussion. What is ridiculous about this is no one wants this, it’s a defining issue at almost every election and the party that does the best job of convincing the country they will lower immigration usually wins. And in-spite of that, everyone is ignored. To all the people out there who think what policies a party is running with or that everyone should vote because your vote matters, how is your head so far buried in the sand? The political will of the people is overwhelmingly ignored on key issues time and time again. The system isn’t just broken, it’s a complete masquerade pretending to be a democracy.
If only governments had the powers to you know…do something about it.
1% growth? Bugger all. Schools are closing around the country due to lack of children. Taxes are going up as the population gets older and sicker. Our birth rate is 1.8, with 2.1 needed to keep the population stable. A lot of these reports seem to forget that the boomers will die but need to be paid for. Medical costs, pension costs etc.
The EU provided excellent immigration, people would come over, work for a few years, pay their taxes, send money home and then leave. That’s how your average family in Poland will have more wealth than your average british family by 2030.
Tories have fucked us totally. If you’re gen x, millennial or gen Z & you want your government pension when you retire IF you get to retire, then immigration is a must.
And NONE of that “well I’ve paid NI all my life. I’ve paid by Stamp!!!”. That’s NOT how it works.
So I appreciate the Tories are likely to be out soon- but what is their actual stance on this? They seem to simultaneously be anti immigration (most loudly illegal immigration), but numbers have only increased since Brexit. Is it a deliberate in order to try to increase growth, or is it simply incompetency? I’m genuinely curious as I wonder if the party itself really knows what’s going on.
If we could actually build houses and infrastructure this would be great news. Bringing in a lot of healthy young people to prop up the boomers is something we really need.
We’ve got an aging population and native people just aren’t having enough children, without immigration it’s going to get really economically tough, especially getting care in 30-40 years time when many people reading this will need it.
Remember that when you’re saving money in a pension you’re hoping to use it to bid for labour you need when you’re old, and if there’s a lot of people with pension pots and a few workers you’re going to need to bid really high and potentially not get much for your money.
Maybe it’s time to look at different models other than those that rely on constant population growth.
So literally what they’re saying is we need more migrant workers to fuel our workforce of more migrants who have a much higher birth rate than the average UK citizen. Please, make it make sense because I absolutely don’t understand why we are doing this.
Btw people are saying we need it or our economy is stagnating, well I don’t know about you but I guarantee you those aren’t 6 million doctors and engineers, why are we getting more and more cheap labour for menial jobs which will be replaced by automation anyway? Are we just asking for more people who want to live on welfare and child benefits while undermining our society? Maybe we should focus on skilled European labour rather than unskilled Middle Eastern and African labour?
So 0.8% population growth per year? That’s nothing if we want to meaningfully grow our economy. At least they’re not projecting a population decrease, which would be significantly worse.
This is payback for what the British did in the past /s
But according to some this will have no impact on housing, nhs waiting times, crime or infrastructure. Absolutely no impact whatsoever
I know the UK needs high immigration to grow the economy but geez. Those numbers are unsustainable and will negatively impact the local populations living standards.
Call me racist or xenophobic or whatever but I like Britain as it is (outside the big cities). I don’t want it all to become like central London.
I still don’t understand why everyone wants to come here rather than stay in mainland Europe. What does the UK offer apart from shit weather and collapsing public infrastructure?