Jamie Dawson KC: “Did you delete them?” Nicola Sturgeon: “Yes”.

by CaptainCrash86

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  1. So Forbes is apparently breaching the rules by keeping her whatapp messages?

    Of course phones are so insecure FBI have tried to sue phone companies to force them to provide them access because they can’t hack them…

  2. Ive not followed this fully in depth, but the current conclusion I’ve come to regarding to deleting of WhatsApp messages is;

    Politician: It was government policy to do X with them
    Trial: But you were the government in charge making your own policy…
    Politician: exactly we abided by our own rules
    Trial: Do you not see the issue…eh never mind…

    Politician 2: I did not delete them here they are
    Trial: how dare you not follow guide
    Politician 2: I felt it was right to keep them as they were official business and you just scorned the other…oh nevermind

    As you may gather I have little hope of both sides.

  3. A typically disingenuous tweet from Jenkins, removing all context to paint Sturgeon in a worse light. He’s always had a bug up his arse about the Scottish Government for some reason.

    She says, in the very same clip that he quotes, that she didn’t conduct decision making via WhatsApp and the relevant information has already been handed to the inquiry.

  4. Didn’t we know this to begin with? Did they expect a different answer this time or something?

  5. I miss having Kieran Jenkins based in Glasgow.

    Where did he end up?

  6. “You WANT me deleting these messages! You NEED me deleting these messages!

  7. I drifted off listening to her convoluted answers

    These are YES or NO questions

  10. Everyone that deleted messages pertinent to governing a country through a crisis needs to be locked up.

    There is no reason to delete messages that isn’t hiding wrong doing.

  11. That’s not quite the whole story from the Inquiry proceedings I’ve been following today. But ‘cherry pick’ away.

    In an aside, they spent most of the morning waffling on about not very important ‘social messaging’ postings. It’s been abundantly clear for a while that the SG did not have the same reliance on (or studied deviousness in deleting) than the Westminister shit-show, but they bashed on regardless.

    I don’t know if Ms Sturgeon is testifying for more than one day (she should) , but the questions this morning and *so far* this afternoon don’t fill me with confidence that the Inquiry can find out what happened and help draw lessons for future epidemics. I hope this doesn’t turn out to be another Levenson type debacle.

  12. She said she did not message on formal decision making through WhatsApp messaging.

  14. Does nobody understand Records Management?

    Transient information should not be retained. Official information should be confined to only approved retention systems and should be retained for periods of time defined by the Information retention policy.

    Deleting WhatsApp messages is absolutely the correct thing to do, as WhatsApp is not a suitable platform for official conversations and decisions.

    If it has been used for official communications relating to decisions and those relevant conversations not subsequently passed to a proper official platform for retention, THAT would be a serious breach.

    This last paragraph describes exactly what the UK government has laid out as their official process. I haven’t yet seen anything to prove that the Scottish Government were using WhatsApp for Official communication relating to decision making. Sturgeon’s earlier statements seemed to suggest they only communicated about government decisions through official channels. Happy to be convinced otherwise though.

  15. Why did the bereaved families strongly believe that the discovery of the WhatsApp message was the conclusive answer?

  17. I’d love to see the messages just before her resignation

    Looked like she got a heads up that the police were on their way and fled the scene

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