What a FUCKING DISASTER. Is Zelensky insane? He HAS to know how much Syrskyi is hated by the troops, this is going to make morale absolutely tank now.
I think, how they act next few weeks, tells a lot. For PR it is imperative that they parted with friendly terms.
I am no longer a Zelenskyy supporter.
This change was for Zelenskyy’s ego & political life ….. for 2 years Zelenskyy was the brave hero for Ukraine noiw he looks like a politician scrambling.
That’s idiotism. Why
Special shout-out to the people here who spent a week spewing on the media for saying this would happen. You know who you are.
“Media broadcasting a Russian psy-ops”
“Mainstream media working for Russia”
Turns out that if 4-5 publications independently from each other reports something there just may be some meat on the bone.
Bleak times ahead.
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I think there are invisible factors which the public can’t account for of why this change happened. It has to have some serious reason to lay off such a figure. I’m not from Ukraine and even from my perspective this decision seemed to be a hard one for the government to make. Never less zaluzhnyi is staying on the team, as taken from V_Zelenskiy_official telegram.
Where is an English translation of the original Zelenskyy video address the article quotes, but does not present? Zelenskyy’s website only has the speech in Ukrainian so far.
My inbox is about to blow up with trolls.
Edit: Shit. It’s already started. I’m getting username mentions lol. I need that translation asap
Edit 2: Halp!
Gonna give Zelensky the benefit of the doubt here. He’s earned it.
Got reservations about Syrskyi but I’ll see how this plays out
Want to stay optimistic, but the replacement is making that extremely difficult. Very, very, very disappointing news.
In war, new blood at the top is always needed eventually. Every country does it and always has. Hope this change brings positive movement for them.
I have no words.
Civilian leadership. Zaluzhnyi knows the deal and will make sure the troops know the deal.
I read the post. Two years, General. From darkest night to today. Kyiv stands. Damn good work.
russians are very happy
Can someone explain to someone who doesn’t consume Ukrainian-language media what the likely difference in tactics will be? People here seem to be saying that Syrskyi is more of an old-Soviet tactics general, but I thought the whole beef between Zaluzhnyi and Zelenskyi was that Zalushnyi wanted more troops, and Zelenskyi wanted to avoid looking like they were reverting to the Soviet “throw bodies at the problem” approach? I’m sure there’s some nuance I must be missing.
Big mistake!Syrskyi is an “old school” infantry chief. see the really big Ukrainian personnel losses (1:1) in bakhmut under his command! The losses among the Ukrainian soldiers will increase sharply and morale will decrease proportionately. Why??????
I have no words. Syrskyi…
Isn’t this driven by Zelensky being afraid of Zaluzhny’s popularity, as a possible future head of state? Zelensky consolidating power for post war political dominance?
This … is a terrible, terrible mistake.
With Zaluzhny being so popular with the troops, is there any chance he might pull a Prigozhin?
So I get that he’s hated by the rank and file, but is he competent?
So, what are your thoughts about Syrski?
Bummer but understandable. After two years Zaluzhnyi needs a break and you do need a rotation of command to bring new ideas and strategies.
Wishing the best to Syrskyi.
Wasn’t Budanov also considered for the job?
I’d want to know who the fuck leaked this decision in the making and isolate them. That would be the first order of business
Zaluzhny is a good commander and a good man without doubt, and also very popular. I trust Zelensky’s judgement. He’s been a very strong leader from day one of this war. The change is amicable and no doubt Zaluzhny will serve well in another capacity.
Zaluzhnyi wasn’t winning the war, but I’m also not very confident in this guy. He seems extremely unpopular in Ukraine and is trained in Soviet style tactics. I’ll reserve judgement for now, but this is almost certainly a morale blow at the very least.
NOOOO!
My boy Big Z! They done him dirty! Serious mistake, his men love him and he knows what he’s doing. Most men would only go gay for Elvis but I’d do big Z too, take me in your big strong arms you beautiful brick shithouse of a bloke!
I really hoped it wasn’t true, I’m getting drunk tonight.
I heard this new guy is involved in defense of Kyiv and Kharkiv Counteroffensive.
I don’t want to hype it. But Ukraine’s one of the most critical moment is when miles and miles of armored columns slowly advancing on Kyiv, just stopping it and making it retreat is a huge achievement.
Again, I’m going to have trust in Zelenskyy and if anything goes bad I don’t feel like Zelenskyy would be too stubborn to appoint him back if needed. In times of war it’s important to get fresh minds and try out different things when things are slowing and it was not uncommon for top generals to be replaced during war historically.
I’ll go and take Mr. Ryan McBeth explanation. He usually seem to know his Stuff.
www yt com/shorts/7HiQrGb3RQ8
Well, they replaced the one who said that he was willing to keep fighting and reclaim the lands even if the world gave up, for someone who is hated by the people fighting.
Why do I feel like this is a make or break type of change? Syrskyi, according to the reports I read these past couple of days, is much more offense oriented. With how low the ammo and artillery stocks are, I hope they think every move through and don’t feel too pressured to make anything happen so quickly.
Regardless of whether you agree with this decision or not, it is an incredibly important demonstration of democratic values and practise. The commander-in-chief willingly stepped down and was replaced by someone appointed by the civilian government! Ukraine is moving in the right direction!
I know Zaluzhnyi is well liked but as a business person, I do see why a change was needed. You can’t keep doing the same thing not making gains and expect success to come. I see a lot of doom and gloom from a lot of people on these posts but from an outside perspective, the war has ground into a brutal war of attrition. I feel as though Ukraine has lost many of its best and most experienced soldiers in recent times and have made little gains in quite some time. While there is certainly some risk with it, not making any substantial moves or wins for a long time is bad for morale and bad for convincing the people abroad who send money and equipment. I understand misgivings but often change could be good, I would hold opinions until you see the results. It’s scary for sure but honestly, something had to change. Ukraine has to make moves in order to win, not maintain a status quo. Hopefully they made the right choice.
Fuck zelensky, he will go down in history with the ranks of Chamberlain and Pétain.
This won’t go well.
My opinion doesn’t carry much weight but while this is a small surprise for me it is also not unexpected.
A general must risk to win.
Whatever the intrinsic motivations of Zelenskyy may be, what stands out most to me is the way that a disagreement in strategy/tactics/political outlook/whatever it was, is handeled between him and Zaluzhny. That is how civilised humans go about it. We all saw how the dispute between Putin and Prigozhin went….. Clear as day that humanity needs to shed itself from barbarism and autocratic dictatorian rule. Slava Ukraini!
This is the stupidest decision the president has made. To be honest, it would have been better if he resigned himself.
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What a FUCKING DISASTER. Is Zelensky insane? He HAS to know how much Syrskyi is hated by the troops, this is going to make morale absolutely tank now.
I think, how they act next few weeks, tells a lot. For PR it is imperative that they parted with friendly terms.
I am no longer a Zelenskyy supporter.
This change was for Zelenskyy’s ego & political life ….. for 2 years Zelenskyy was the brave hero for Ukraine noiw he looks like a politician scrambling.
That’s idiotism. Why
Special shout-out to the people here who spent a week spewing on the media for saying this would happen. You know who you are.
“Media broadcasting a Russian psy-ops”
“Mainstream media working for Russia”
Turns out that if 4-5 publications independently from each other reports something there just may be some meat on the bone.
Bleak times ahead.
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I think there are invisible factors which the public can’t account for of why this change happened. It has to have some serious reason to lay off such a figure. I’m not from Ukraine and even from my perspective this decision seemed to be a hard one for the government to make. Never less zaluzhnyi is staying on the team, as taken from V_Zelenskiy_official telegram.
Where is an English translation of the original Zelenskyy video address the article quotes, but does not present? Zelenskyy’s website only has the speech in Ukrainian so far.
My inbox is about to blow up with trolls.
Edit: Shit. It’s already started. I’m getting username mentions lol. I need that translation asap
Edit 2: Halp!
Gonna give Zelensky the benefit of the doubt here. He’s earned it.
Got reservations about Syrskyi but I’ll see how this plays out
Want to stay optimistic, but the replacement is making that extremely difficult. Very, very, very disappointing news.
In war, new blood at the top is always needed eventually. Every country does it and always has. Hope this change brings positive movement for them.
I have no words.
Civilian leadership. Zaluzhnyi knows the deal and will make sure the troops know the deal.
I read the post. Two years, General. From darkest night to today. Kyiv stands. Damn good work.
russians are very happy
Can someone explain to someone who doesn’t consume Ukrainian-language media what the likely difference in tactics will be? People here seem to be saying that Syrskyi is more of an old-Soviet tactics general, but I thought the whole beef between Zaluzhnyi and Zelenskyi was that Zalushnyi wanted more troops, and Zelenskyi wanted to avoid looking like they were reverting to the Soviet “throw bodies at the problem” approach? I’m sure there’s some nuance I must be missing.
Big mistake!Syrskyi is an “old school” infantry chief. see the really big Ukrainian personnel losses (1:1) in bakhmut under his command! The losses among the Ukrainian soldiers will increase sharply and morale will decrease proportionately. Why??????
I have no words. Syrskyi…
Isn’t this driven by Zelensky being afraid of Zaluzhny’s popularity, as a possible future head of state? Zelensky consolidating power for post war political dominance?
This … is a terrible, terrible mistake.
With Zaluzhny being so popular with the troops, is there any chance he might pull a Prigozhin?
So I get that he’s hated by the rank and file, but is he competent?
So, what are your thoughts about Syrski?
Bummer but understandable. After two years Zaluzhnyi needs a break and you do need a rotation of command to bring new ideas and strategies.
Wishing the best to Syrskyi.
Wasn’t Budanov also considered for the job?
I’d want to know who the fuck leaked this decision in the making and isolate them. That would be the first order of business
Zaluzhny is a good commander and a good man without doubt, and also very popular. I trust Zelensky’s judgement. He’s been a very strong leader from day one of this war. The change is amicable and no doubt Zaluzhny will serve well in another capacity.
Zaluzhnyi wasn’t winning the war, but I’m also not very confident in this guy. He seems extremely unpopular in Ukraine and is trained in Soviet style tactics. I’ll reserve judgement for now, but this is almost certainly a morale blow at the very least.
NOOOO!
My boy Big Z! They done him dirty! Serious mistake, his men love him and he knows what he’s doing. Most men would only go gay for Elvis but I’d do big Z too, take me in your big strong arms you beautiful brick shithouse of a bloke!
I really hoped it wasn’t true, I’m getting drunk tonight.
I heard this new guy is involved in defense of Kyiv and Kharkiv Counteroffensive.
I don’t want to hype it. But Ukraine’s one of the most critical moment is when miles and miles of armored columns slowly advancing on Kyiv, just stopping it and making it retreat is a huge achievement.
Again, I’m going to have trust in Zelenskyy and if anything goes bad I don’t feel like Zelenskyy would be too stubborn to appoint him back if needed. In times of war it’s important to get fresh minds and try out different things when things are slowing and it was not uncommon for top generals to be replaced during war historically.
I’ll go and take Mr. Ryan McBeth explanation. He usually seem to know his Stuff.
www yt com/shorts/7HiQrGb3RQ8
Well, they replaced the one who said that he was willing to keep fighting and reclaim the lands even if the world gave up, for someone who is hated by the people fighting.
Why do I feel like this is a make or break type of change? Syrskyi, according to the reports I read these past couple of days, is much more offense oriented. With how low the ammo and artillery stocks are, I hope they think every move through and don’t feel too pressured to make anything happen so quickly.
Regardless of whether you agree with this decision or not, it is an incredibly important demonstration of democratic values and practise. The commander-in-chief willingly stepped down and was replaced by someone appointed by the civilian government! Ukraine is moving in the right direction!
I know Zaluzhnyi is well liked but as a business person, I do see why a change was needed. You can’t keep doing the same thing not making gains and expect success to come. I see a lot of doom and gloom from a lot of people on these posts but from an outside perspective, the war has ground into a brutal war of attrition. I feel as though Ukraine has lost many of its best and most experienced soldiers in recent times and have made little gains in quite some time. While there is certainly some risk with it, not making any substantial moves or wins for a long time is bad for morale and bad for convincing the people abroad who send money and equipment. I understand misgivings but often change could be good, I would hold opinions until you see the results. It’s scary for sure but honestly, something had to change. Ukraine has to make moves in order to win, not maintain a status quo. Hopefully they made the right choice.
Fuck zelensky, he will go down in history with the ranks of Chamberlain and Pétain.
This won’t go well.
My opinion doesn’t carry much weight but while this is a small surprise for me it is also not unexpected.
A general must risk to win.
Whatever the intrinsic motivations of Zelenskyy may be, what stands out most to me is the way that a disagreement in strategy/tactics/political outlook/whatever it was, is handeled between him and Zaluzhny. That is how civilised humans go about it. We all saw how the dispute between Putin and Prigozhin went….. Clear as day that humanity needs to shed itself from barbarism and autocratic dictatorian rule. Slava Ukraini!
This is the stupidest decision the president has made. To be honest, it would have been better if he resigned himself.