I’m not sure it’s actually as black and white as that, but there’s zero hope here of the SCOTUS going with a plain interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment. They already know they’re keeping Trump on the ballot; it’s merely a case of which particular tortured line of reasoning the majority will employ. I mean, we saw what happened in 2000.
They’ll invalidate common sense gun control laws based on a flawed interpretation of the 2nd amendment but when it comes to the the plain language of section 3 of the 14th amendment they will be like “we can’t take the constitution literally…”
And it sounds like they will. Alito literally helping the tromp lawyer complete an argument.
This will be a POLITICAL overthrow of a legal decision based on trial found facts. It’s a cataclysmic constitutional fuckery, we’re about to see.
Rejecting the constitution isn’t exactly uncharted territory for them.
It would seem that they indicated that was exactly what they are going to do. It is a great shame to the nation. We all saw with our own eyes what happened on January 6th. We saw his action and his very clear inaction. He is a traitor to the nation and should be in jail, not galivanting around and running for President. This nation will get exactly what it deserves if they do not hold this man to account.
The arguement that the writers excluded the Presidency while barring insurrections from every other office makes absolutely zero logical sense to me.
Can’t be a senator if you are an insurrectionist. But you can control the Military? What in tarnation?
Remember that the republicans want to hold a constitutional convention. They have been wanting to gut it for long ago.
Which is exactly what’s going to happen.
“When asked for comment, Trump shit his pants again.”
Well buckle up buttercup. Because they sure sounded like they’re going to do just that. By a large margin.
They are giving the goon carte blanche to do whatever he wants if we’re unfortunate enough to have him elected again.
SCOTUS allows Trump to go forward and all hell breaks loose
If Supreme Court finds an insurrection occurred, but Trump is an Officer, what impact does that have for future Cabinet and government office appointments?
What constitution? Hes above the law duh!
If that is the case, why even have the election then since Biden can just do whatever he wants since he’s “above the law” as President.
Man, some of the questions and interactions with the SC have been bonkers. One of my favorites is that Trump’s defense argued that Jan6 was despicable, illegal, and violent, but not technically an insurrection.
Then the fallacy from the SC arguing that if Trump is ineligible because of insurrection, then any state can just remove anyone from the ballot. I’m embarrassed that any SC judge in this country could make such a stupid effing argument.
Won’t be the first time SCOTUS has done that. Or the second.
So make sure you *DON’T* vote for him when they allow it.
They’re going to rule in favor of his immunity as well, but it will only apply to the events of January 6th. That way Trump is saved and Biden doesn’t gain any additional protections.
Well, what are we going to do after the Supreme Court rejects the constitution?
The way i am seeing it, they rule that yes, he can be on the ballot. That’s fine. But if they actually stick with the constitution, no he can’t hold office. So if he’s on the ballot and get’s all these votes, it won’t matter, because he can’t hold office. easy win for the Dem’s.
But I fear they will say he can hold office. Which scare the hell out of me.
They 💯will reject the Constitution . The Social contract is dead. People need to start realizing this fact
Putin is loving this week! Next year will be the end of the world if Donald is back in the White House.
News flash… The supreme court just rejected the constitution
Long live King Trump
Which they will do with smiles on their faces. They will do as they are paid to do by their corporate sponsors and no more. The rule of law means nothing to them. All they care about is their next check or lavish gift from whoever bought them.
You mean if somebody pays them to reject the constitution don’t you 😁
After the oral arguments made today, anyone who expects the Court to rule against Trump is living in fantasy land. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh were clearly staunchly against it. Gorsuch and Barrett seemed to have more specific concerns. Even 2 of the liberal justices seemed against the idea. An 8-1 ruling (for Trump) isn’t out of the realm of possibilities here.
SCOTUS on 14th: “How are we to interpret this vague and ancient document???” SCOTUS on 2nd: “The framers fucking LOVE AR15s.”
In other words, he’s staying on the ballot
Yeah well, that is what they gonna do then
And they will!
Oh, they’re gonna reject the Constitution.
Ya’ll understand that all the pundits that actually know a little something about constitutional law are saying the court will overwhelmingly rule in trump’s favor, right?
Not trolling, but read the AP news article. I disagree completely with the likely ruling, and I think trump is disqualified from holding office, but the SC likely doesn’t think so.
So then he stays on the ballot. How is anyone doubting the illegitimate and corrupt Supreme Court wouldn’t do precisely this?
They will do that.
Trump only works with people he has blackmail on. So the SCOTUS judes he appointed…
*its always sunny music plays*
And do we have any faith that the Supreme Court will hold up the Constitution?
No… No sane person would have any faith in them.
“I’LL TAKE YOU TO A PLACE WHERE THE CONSTITUTION DOESN’T MEAN SQUAT.”
*cuts to Supreme Court* -Futurama
tl;dr SCOTUS is shit 💩.
States: “Don’t take away federal protection for abortion”
SCOTUS: “Well…states should be allowed to make their own decisions regarding abortion”
States: “But that’s gonna be so harmful for American women”
SCOTUS: “States rights and laws…Sorry American women!”
(Some time later)
States: “This single individual was responsible for insurrection against our democracy. States Supreme Court has decided that in accordance with the 14th Amendment, he will not be on the ballot”.
SCOTUS: “WAIT A FUCKING MIN! YOU CAN’T DO THAT! STATES HAVE NO RIGHTS TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THE WORD PRESIDENT DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE CONSTITUTION”
Is it likely they’ll rule an offramp something like:
“While it’s correct that the Constitution specifically bars anyone who participated in an insurrection from holding office, it lacks any mechanism to validate who is and who isn’t guilty of this – we’re pausing this ruling and sending it back to Congress to create laws defining how Insurrection is defined, or until a lower court convicts the former President of such an act”
I’m honestly pissed that states decided this was a good idea. It was always going to end up in front of this crooked Supreme Court and now we have to deal with whatever political fuckery they use to twist this for themselves.
The constitution means nothing to the right wing justices on the supreme court. They will do whatever it takes to keep dear leader out of prison and provide him with a clear path to the presidency.
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I’m not sure it’s actually as black and white as that, but there’s zero hope here of the SCOTUS going with a plain interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment. They already know they’re keeping Trump on the ballot; it’s merely a case of which particular tortured line of reasoning the majority will employ. I mean, we saw what happened in 2000.
[**Non-paywall mirror link**](https://archive.is/LtpzP)
Justice Kavanaugh: “Hold my beer.”
They’ll invalidate common sense gun control laws based on a flawed interpretation of the 2nd amendment but when it comes to the the plain language of section 3 of the 14th amendment they will be like “we can’t take the constitution literally…”
And it sounds like they will. Alito literally helping the tromp lawyer complete an argument.
This will be a POLITICAL overthrow of a legal decision based on trial found facts. It’s a cataclysmic constitutional fuckery, we’re about to see.
Rejecting the constitution isn’t exactly uncharted territory for them.
It would seem that they indicated that was exactly what they are going to do. It is a great shame to the nation. We all saw with our own eyes what happened on January 6th. We saw his action and his very clear inaction. He is a traitor to the nation and should be in jail, not galivanting around and running for President. This nation will get exactly what it deserves if they do not hold this man to account.
The arguement that the writers excluded the Presidency while barring insurrections from every other office makes absolutely zero logical sense to me.
Can’t be a senator if you are an insurrectionist. But you can control the Military? What in tarnation?
Remember that the republicans want to hold a constitutional convention. They have been wanting to gut it for long ago.
Which is exactly what’s going to happen.
“When asked for comment, Trump shit his pants again.”
Well buckle up buttercup. Because they sure sounded like they’re going to do just that. By a large margin.
They are giving the goon carte blanche to do whatever he wants if we’re unfortunate enough to have him elected again.
SCOTUS allows Trump to go forward and all hell breaks loose
If Supreme Court finds an insurrection occurred, but Trump is an Officer, what impact does that have for future Cabinet and government office appointments?
What constitution? Hes above the law duh!
If that is the case, why even have the election then since Biden can just do whatever he wants since he’s “above the law” as President.
Man, some of the questions and interactions with the SC have been bonkers. One of my favorites is that Trump’s defense argued that Jan6 was despicable, illegal, and violent, but not technically an insurrection.
Then the fallacy from the SC arguing that if Trump is ineligible because of insurrection, then any state can just remove anyone from the ballot. I’m embarrassed that any SC judge in this country could make such a stupid effing argument.
Won’t be the first time SCOTUS has done that. Or the second.
So make sure you *DON’T* vote for him when they allow it.
They’re going to rule in favor of his immunity as well, but it will only apply to the events of January 6th. That way Trump is saved and Biden doesn’t gain any additional protections.
Well, what are we going to do after the Supreme Court rejects the constitution?
The way i am seeing it, they rule that yes, he can be on the ballot. That’s fine. But if they actually stick with the constitution, no he can’t hold office. So if he’s on the ballot and get’s all these votes, it won’t matter, because he can’t hold office. easy win for the Dem’s.
But I fear they will say he can hold office. Which scare the hell out of me.
They 💯will reject the Constitution . The Social contract is dead. People need to start realizing this fact
Putin is loving this week! Next year will be the end of the world if Donald is back in the White House.
News flash… The supreme court just rejected the constitution
Long live King Trump
Which they will do with smiles on their faces. They will do as they are paid to do by their corporate sponsors and no more. The rule of law means nothing to them. All they care about is their next check or lavish gift from whoever bought them.
You mean if somebody pays them to reject the constitution don’t you 😁
After the oral arguments made today, anyone who expects the Court to rule against Trump is living in fantasy land. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh were clearly staunchly against it. Gorsuch and Barrett seemed to have more specific concerns. Even 2 of the liberal justices seemed against the idea. An 8-1 ruling (for Trump) isn’t out of the realm of possibilities here.
SCOTUS on 14th: “How are we to interpret this vague and ancient document???” SCOTUS on 2nd: “The framers fucking LOVE AR15s.”
In other words, he’s staying on the ballot
Yeah well, that is what they gonna do then
And they will!
Oh, they’re gonna reject the Constitution.
Ya’ll understand that all the pundits that actually know a little something about constitutional law are saying the court will overwhelmingly rule in trump’s favor, right?
Not trolling, but read the AP news article. I disagree completely with the likely ruling, and I think trump is disqualified from holding office, but the SC likely doesn’t think so.
[https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-insurrection-trump-2024-election-397a481d2886b64bba06b24ff3d03f37](https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-insurrection-trump-2024-election-397a481d2886b64bba06b24ff3d03f37)
So then he stays on the ballot. How is anyone doubting the illegitimate and corrupt Supreme Court wouldn’t do precisely this?
They will do that.
Trump only works with people he has blackmail on. So the SCOTUS judes he appointed…
*its always sunny music plays*
And do we have any faith that the Supreme Court will hold up the Constitution?
No… No sane person would have any faith in them.
“I’LL TAKE YOU TO A PLACE WHERE THE CONSTITUTION DOESN’T MEAN SQUAT.”
*cuts to Supreme Court* -Futurama
tl;dr SCOTUS is shit 💩.
States: “Don’t take away federal protection for abortion”
SCOTUS: “Well…states should be allowed to make their own decisions regarding abortion”
States: “But that’s gonna be so harmful for American women”
SCOTUS: “States rights and laws…Sorry American women!”
(Some time later)
States: “This single individual was responsible for insurrection against our democracy. States Supreme Court has decided that in accordance with the 14th Amendment, he will not be on the ballot”.
SCOTUS: “WAIT A FUCKING MIN! YOU CAN’T DO THAT! STATES HAVE NO RIGHTS TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THE WORD PRESIDENT DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE CONSTITUTION”
Is it likely they’ll rule an offramp something like:
“While it’s correct that the Constitution specifically bars anyone who participated in an insurrection from holding office, it lacks any mechanism to validate who is and who isn’t guilty of this – we’re pausing this ruling and sending it back to Congress to create laws defining how Insurrection is defined, or until a lower court convicts the former President of such an act”
I’m honestly pissed that states decided this was a good idea. It was always going to end up in front of this crooked Supreme Court and now we have to deal with whatever political fuckery they use to twist this for themselves.
The constitution means nothing to the right wing justices on the supreme court. They will do whatever it takes to keep dear leader out of prison and provide him with a clear path to the presidency.
Well buckle up, they’re about to.
Lock him up