Income bands/party allegiances and the question of “Getting ahead in Ireland is about..”

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  1. Makes sense, often the higher up the payscale you go the more technical knowledge and results you have to be able to display, whereas at the lower tier you often get jobs through family and friends, which colours your opinion about how other people succeed.

  2. The American phrase is: “Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple”

  3. Tbf, people have to want to work with you and trust you to give you more responsibility, which leads to more money. But very few people get into those positions by been dumbasses, and those that do don’t last long.

  4. The richer you are the more you think life is fair and the more likely you are to vote FF.

    GP members don’t know their arses from their elbows.

  5. I don’t think this is particularly enlightening- in every case in life, people are going to try and take credit for the good things in their life (justified or not) and deny responsibility for things going badly in their life (justified or not)

  6. This makes sense to me, although I feel like “Who you know” is being interpreted as nepotism or jobs for the boys, when the reality is it’s most likely based on relationship building and connections.

    The more you move up the ladder and the pay scales the more relationship building, influence, communication and interpersonal skills begin to take over. Businesses are political, and being very good often isn’t enough on its own. You have to be able to build relationships and massage egos. It’s why skilled people get frustrated when those they see as useless progress faster, when in reality those people have just used a different skill set and sold themselves better.

    Likewise, referrals are important at the upper end too. I’ve referred friends and been referred by friends for jobs. If I know them, and their capability and trust them, I want them working with me. That’s not to say they get the job, but they get an interview and have a definite advantage by being a reduced risk.

  7. It’s hard to see any real take-away from this, with the possible exception of “the [high-income earners]/[rich] vote FF/FG”. And even that’s not really clear.

    And, obviously, it’s who you know.

  8. The who you know narrative is not something that stand up to scrutiny.

    When I started my last 3 jobs I didn’t know a single person in those companies. The majority of people in my current company, didn’t know anyone in there when they joined. We are all at the upper end of that earnings scale.

    This experience will be replicated in professional roles across the multinational and tech sectors. It is very much what you know, if you don’t have a verifiable track record, who you know will struggle to get you past the screening process, never mind past an interview.

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