so long, article 10. You were a fine principle, in principle
I don’t get Kneecap, they seem like a the Rubber bandits over a decade late and with less brains?
Is it the rapping in Irish or something else that’s the appeal?The RA head thing seems pretty cringey considering that seems like their actual views, it just all seems strangely dated, wonder what their actual background is? Seen a comment or two that at least one of them is from serious money but I don’t know if its true.
The going on about Tories seems more UK and ROI aimed than the north, not that rhe Tories are loved or anything.
– Be explicitly anti-UK State
– Want money from UK state to make anti-UK state art
– ??
Not the same thing as being anti the current UK gov and wanting UK gov money. Of course, they have the right to be anti-UK state. Just shouldn’t go begging the state for money.
Why do these lads want a handout from the Brits?
Laughable really
These guys are so fucking cringe. Trying to glamourise all that IRA bullshit that is best condemned to the past.
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Even with the film and all the extended press they’re getting , I’m still not entirely convinced that Kneecap aren’t a long con performance art outfit like Die Antwoord
Great tunes though
Have ye listened to their lyrics? The take the piss out of the ra and their sort as much as the brits.
Good beats, great Irish language exposure and a wee laugh.
I don’t mind them too much.
They are taking legal action? Wtf
That’s gonna cost them more than 15k
Unsurprisingly the British government didn’t want to give them a grant when their poster was burning Tories at the stake
Canadian arts worker chiming in, but the politicization of arts funding should be a red flag for all. We’ve seen an explosion of excellent, public funding-assisted art which is critical of the Canadian state. It’s made for better dialogue and has certainly impacted policy making. Indigenous artists in particular are thriving more recently, most with an inherent rejection of the Canadian state. So there exists a precedent for what KNEECAP are doing.
Also, touring internationally is super expensive and takes years to become profitable (I can speak first hand to that). The export development grant they applied for is that exact sort of thing Canadian musicians apply for to bring acts to showcase conferences like Great Escape in the UK, and most recently Dundalk’s Your Roots Are Showing. There’s a very reciprocal circuit of government bodies funding export delegations to showcase their artists and arts organizations.
My point is, these types of small support grants are a critical part of building audiences at early and mid career stages. Artists get rejected everyday, but to be denied because someone’s sense of allegiance was hurt is bullshit and really brings the impartiality of the awarded process into question.
If that film ends up getting Oscar nominations next year, it’s gonna look pretty embarrassing for the Tories…
You can’t be repeatedly and deliberately provocative and then throw your hands up and play the victim when you successfully provoke someone.
Satire is well and truly dead.
Sure didn’t they write a whole song about getting off their heads with the unionists? How could they be against the Union? The union gives them most of their material.
Edit: ITT a lot of people who think they know what Kneecap are about but actually haven’t bothered to take a second to really find out
Real rebels beg the state for money
Wales chiming in… this is tosh selectivism. By this criterion, nothing that isn’t anglo-centric would get any funding… think Welsh tv for starters, controlled by DCMS, mostly funded by licence fee — hell, former S4C chairmen grilled by Westminster for having the temerity of previously resisting London and English power.
I hope Kneecap take this as far as they can — I imagine they pay their taxes into the same pot as I and Westminster politicians have to.
Conservatives just love their robust unionism — it is, after all, “our United Kingdom”.
If I was a supposed revolutionary republican rap group I wouldn’t get my knickers in a twist over a grant cash handout from the British government lol
It’s good publicity for them though, which I guess is the whole point.
The MEGS grant applications are considered by an independent panel from the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).
But the scheme is overseen by the Department for Business and Trade and the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.
…
The BPI also made it clear that it was the government’s “decision alone to decline the application made by Kneecap’s representatives”.
Good thing tories will be out after this year
Never heard of these lads before today. I am seeing a lot of comments here about how they are hypocritical looking for this grant given that they (allegedly) hate the Union. Which is hilariously stupid.
If they aren’t allowed to seek a grant that they are entitled to, then conversely (and logically) they should be allowed to opt out of paying taxes to HMRC too? Would Sunak and his party of ghouls be ok with that?
Honestly don’t see it as a bad thing. Play their cards right and it’ll be a great bit of publicity which will only fuel them. Hope the lads come back fighting!
A smart government would have insisted on any funding be contingent on having “funded by the UK government 🇬🇧” slapped all over it like EU funded projects and then given it
lmao the publicity from this is worth far more than 15k and they got to make the British government look like the gobshites they are for free, too.
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so long, article 10. You were a fine principle, in principle
I don’t get Kneecap, they seem like a the Rubber bandits over a decade late and with less brains?
Is it the rapping in Irish or something else that’s the appeal?The RA head thing seems pretty cringey considering that seems like their actual views, it just all seems strangely dated, wonder what their actual background is? Seen a comment or two that at least one of them is from serious money but I don’t know if its true.
The going on about Tories seems more UK and ROI aimed than the north, not that rhe Tories are loved or anything.
– Be explicitly anti-UK State
– Want money from UK state to make anti-UK state art
– ??
Not the same thing as being anti the current UK gov and wanting UK gov money. Of course, they have the right to be anti-UK state. Just shouldn’t go begging the state for money.
Why do these lads want a handout from the Brits?
Laughable really
These guys are so fucking cringe. Trying to glamourise all that IRA bullshit that is best condemned to the past.
[deleted]
Even with the film and all the extended press they’re getting , I’m still not entirely convinced that Kneecap aren’t a long con performance art outfit like Die Antwoord
Great tunes though
Have ye listened to their lyrics? The take the piss out of the ra and their sort as much as the brits.
Good beats, great Irish language exposure and a wee laugh.
I don’t mind them too much.
They are taking legal action? Wtf
That’s gonna cost them more than 15k
Unsurprisingly the British government didn’t want to give them a grant when their poster was burning Tories at the stake
Canadian arts worker chiming in, but the politicization of arts funding should be a red flag for all. We’ve seen an explosion of excellent, public funding-assisted art which is critical of the Canadian state. It’s made for better dialogue and has certainly impacted policy making. Indigenous artists in particular are thriving more recently, most with an inherent rejection of the Canadian state. So there exists a precedent for what KNEECAP are doing.
Also, touring internationally is super expensive and takes years to become profitable (I can speak first hand to that). The export development grant they applied for is that exact sort of thing Canadian musicians apply for to bring acts to showcase conferences like Great Escape in the UK, and most recently Dundalk’s Your Roots Are Showing. There’s a very reciprocal circuit of government bodies funding export delegations to showcase their artists and arts organizations.
My point is, these types of small support grants are a critical part of building audiences at early and mid career stages. Artists get rejected everyday, but to be denied because someone’s sense of allegiance was hurt is bullshit and really brings the impartiality of the awarded process into question.
If that film ends up getting Oscar nominations next year, it’s gonna look pretty embarrassing for the Tories…
You can’t be repeatedly and deliberately provocative and then throw your hands up and play the victim when you successfully provoke someone.
Satire is well and truly dead.
Sure didn’t they write a whole song about getting off their heads with the unionists? How could they be against the Union? The union gives them most of their material.
Edit: ITT a lot of people who think they know what Kneecap are about but actually haven’t bothered to take a second to really find out
Real rebels beg the state for money
Wales chiming in… this is tosh selectivism. By this criterion, nothing that isn’t anglo-centric would get any funding… think Welsh tv for starters, controlled by DCMS, mostly funded by licence fee — hell, former S4C chairmen grilled by Westminster for having the temerity of previously resisting London and English power.
I hope Kneecap take this as far as they can — I imagine they pay their taxes into the same pot as I and Westminster politicians have to.
Conservatives just love their robust unionism — it is, after all, “our United Kingdom”.
If I was a supposed revolutionary republican rap group I wouldn’t get my knickers in a twist over a grant cash handout from the British government lol
It’s good publicity for them though, which I guess is the whole point.
Fantastic PR work by the lads
Why do they need a grant though?
Get your Brits out
They’re gonna lose so enjoy paying their legal fees. That’s kinda what you get for [glorifying terrorism](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13062305/amp/Irish-rap-band-Kneecap-known-balaclava-clad-performances-promoting-pictures-petrol-bombs-denied-taxpayer-funding-accused-glorifying-IRA.html) (both Hamas and the IRA).
From the BBC article:
The MEGS grant applications are considered by an independent panel from the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).
But the scheme is overseen by the Department for Business and Trade and the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.
…
The BPI also made it clear that it was the government’s “decision alone to decline the application made by Kneecap’s representatives”.
Good thing tories will be out after this year
Never heard of these lads before today. I am seeing a lot of comments here about how they are hypocritical looking for this grant given that they (allegedly) hate the Union. Which is hilariously stupid.
If they aren’t allowed to seek a grant that they are entitled to, then conversely (and logically) they should be allowed to opt out of paying taxes to HMRC too? Would Sunak and his party of ghouls be ok with that?
Honestly don’t see it as a bad thing. Play their cards right and it’ll be a great bit of publicity which will only fuel them. Hope the lads come back fighting!
https://preview.redd.it/e9iyqgdx2mhc1.jpeg?width=1005&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33d26c2b5edbc32468f88493b0c82d17b1103ace
A smart government would have insisted on any funding be contingent on having “funded by the UK government 🇬🇧” slapped all over it like EU funded projects and then given it
lmao the publicity from this is worth far more than 15k and they got to make the British government look like the gobshites they are for free, too.