> It is also understood that she was found by staff when her name was eventually called out to see a doctor and she did not respond. She died while in intensive care.
So she was discovered quite quickly when her turn to be seen came up. That turn took seven hours to arrive though and the nurses *may* have seen that she fell unconscious during that time yet nothing was done.
> It is understood the 39-year-old, who was triaged on arrival complaining of a headache, waited for more than seven hours to be seen by a doctor.
> The BBC understands the woman was observed by nurses but had not been seen by a doctor.
We don’t know the full circumstances of that so the internal investigation will have to see what they saw, they could well have thought she was just sleeping but even then you would think that would warrant a check since it’s A&E!
We know A&E is under a lot of strain so that’s already a national scandal but there isn’t much the hospital can do about that, that’s on the Government.
The questions for the hospital are: Could the triage have been better so she didn’t wait seven hours? Why did the nurses who observed her not intervene or get to her faster when she fell unconscious? And critically, would faster intervention have given a real chance of saving her?
39 years old is too young to die. Horrible for her, her family, and her children. RIP.
Once got told off at A&E by a senior nurse because another patient complained several times about their wait. We got mixed up (twice!) – different genders but sat in a similar location and similar reason for being there.
If that can happen – I can totally understand whilst someone looking like they are resting / sleeping in a general waiting area wasn’t noticed. Triage didn’t see a reason for regular re-assessments.
British healthcare and the NHS = you die from waiting or develop cancer that will kill you unless you’re the royal family.
Well that very sad for her family and worrying for the state of the NHS. Will a new government do better, I’m sceptical but I do hope so.
Last time I was at A&E a few weeks back due to my partner having pneumonia it was an 8 hour wait. There was hardly anyone there either.
When we finally were let in to be seen the corridors were spralling with patients in temp beds in the corridor.
My partner has Cystitis Fibrosis, 29% lung function and on the transplant list. Wednesday night he started coughing up a fuck load of blood. He was in A&E for 14 hours before a bed on a ward became available. He’s now thankfully admitted and will spend some time there, but it was so frustrating and scary having a medical emergency and no doctor available to see him for hours, then no space on a ward for him. The NHS is drowned, I really don’t know how it can be saved.
It’s pretty easy to blame the staff, but they are doing an impossible job that’s a daily living hell.I worked in ED but left due to how unbearably hard it is. Im shocked anyone’s left to staff it.
You slog your guts out, get abused daily, go without breaks and cry at least twice a shift. Even though you have an unsafe, unmanageable number of patients you will be held accountable if anyone falls through the gaps. You’re blamed because can’t preform miracles.
If you want someone to blame, blame the government who have kept cutting staffs pay making safe staffing impossible and cut beds so pts have to die in waiting rooms.
My partner is in QMC due to fluid build up on the Brain.
She’s been in for weeks, the doctors , surgeons and nurses are doing an amazing job considering how much the government has fucked up the NHS.
Nothing but heroes work in these places as far as I’m concerned.
I once was left in a storage room (?) on a chair for 16 hours after a suicide attempt alone.
This doesn’t surprise me really sadly. Tragic situation and possibly prevented. No real provision to check on those waiting.
Every hospital is so drowned and no politician cares. It’s planned obsolescence – make it so bad a private system is made functional, then drive down the NHS to nothing, then profit hugely.
This is what the tories have done to the country bit by bit intentionally over time it’s adding up now for all services, our defence, infrastructure….all gone to shit
Last year I suspected I’d broken a bone in my foot, so went to A&E.
A friendly lady made room for me to sit down on one of the chairs at the front as I was clearly hobbling.
I was feeling a bit sorry for myself until they told me about her husband’s predicament.
He’d slipped on some ice and must have snapped something in his leg as his foot was 90 degrees to his leg.
He’d been lying on the frozen floor for many hours waiting for an ambulance. I forget exactly how long it was but it was a length of time that shocked me anyway.
In the end his son picked him up off the floor and drove him to A&E instead of waiting. But they’d been waiting in A&E for something like four hours.
He said his leg had gone completely numb and felt cold.
It sounded like the leg had lost blood flow to it. A little later it seemed like they’d remembered he existed and you could see nurses and doctors glancing over at him and having concerned whispered conversations. Not long after they whisked him away in something of a hurry.
I hope he was alright. But it was a scary reminder of how broken the system is. It’s one thing to read about it when a big news story breaks but I don’t think we realise the extent of how it’s happening on a day to day basis.
I was unconscious in a&e a few years ago. The nurse laughed when I “fell asleep” when she was taking my blood. My partner did not find it funny.
They didn’t really care but also they didn’t have time to care and luckily I didn’t actually die.
I don’t remember much of it but my partner is pretty traumatized because they let him stay with me. In covid when you weren’t allowed people in a&e with you, they basically got him to watch me to make sure I didn’t die 👍
We were there for 6ish hours I think, I was in hospital for 2 weeks.
When I read this it was very sad but not surprising, which is even sadder
Can’t speak for other hospitals but i was actually quite impressed with A&E when my mum got taken in last week, from the ambulance in a guerney directly to a new triage room with 3 beds and several nurses where they did what tests they could.
Then taken in to the high dependency unit for more tests then general A&E ward, where she kept getting checked on by several nurses and a junior doctor over the span of the next several hours.
Granted she had to eventually wait “up to” 12 hours for a bed when they kept her in and the staff were clearly overburdened so there is that.
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> It is also understood that she was found by staff when her name was eventually called out to see a doctor and she did not respond. She died while in intensive care.
So she was discovered quite quickly when her turn to be seen came up. That turn took seven hours to arrive though and the nurses *may* have seen that she fell unconscious during that time yet nothing was done.
> It is understood the 39-year-old, who was triaged on arrival complaining of a headache, waited for more than seven hours to be seen by a doctor.
> The BBC understands the woman was observed by nurses but had not been seen by a doctor.
We don’t know the full circumstances of that so the internal investigation will have to see what they saw, they could well have thought she was just sleeping but even then you would think that would warrant a check since it’s A&E!
We know A&E is under a lot of strain so that’s already a national scandal but there isn’t much the hospital can do about that, that’s on the Government.
The questions for the hospital are: Could the triage have been better so she didn’t wait seven hours? Why did the nurses who observed her not intervene or get to her faster when she fell unconscious? And critically, would faster intervention have given a real chance of saving her?
39 years old is too young to die. Horrible for her, her family, and her children. RIP.
Once got told off at A&E by a senior nurse because another patient complained several times about their wait. We got mixed up (twice!) – different genders but sat in a similar location and similar reason for being there.
If that can happen – I can totally understand whilst someone looking like they are resting / sleeping in a general waiting area wasn’t noticed. Triage didn’t see a reason for regular re-assessments.
British healthcare and the NHS = you die from waiting or develop cancer that will kill you unless you’re the royal family.
Well that very sad for her family and worrying for the state of the NHS. Will a new government do better, I’m sceptical but I do hope so.
Last time I was at A&E a few weeks back due to my partner having pneumonia it was an 8 hour wait. There was hardly anyone there either.
When we finally were let in to be seen the corridors were spralling with patients in temp beds in the corridor.
My partner has Cystitis Fibrosis, 29% lung function and on the transplant list. Wednesday night he started coughing up a fuck load of blood. He was in A&E for 14 hours before a bed on a ward became available. He’s now thankfully admitted and will spend some time there, but it was so frustrating and scary having a medical emergency and no doctor available to see him for hours, then no space on a ward for him. The NHS is drowned, I really don’t know how it can be saved.
It’s pretty easy to blame the staff, but they are doing an impossible job that’s a daily living hell.I worked in ED but left due to how unbearably hard it is. Im shocked anyone’s left to staff it.
You slog your guts out, get abused daily, go without breaks and cry at least twice a shift. Even though you have an unsafe, unmanageable number of patients you will be held accountable if anyone falls through the gaps. You’re blamed because can’t preform miracles.
If you want someone to blame, blame the government who have kept cutting staffs pay making safe staffing impossible and cut beds so pts have to die in waiting rooms.
My partner is in QMC due to fluid build up on the Brain.
She’s been in for weeks, the doctors , surgeons and nurses are doing an amazing job considering how much the government has fucked up the NHS.
Nothing but heroes work in these places as far as I’m concerned.
I once was left in a storage room (?) on a chair for 16 hours after a suicide attempt alone.
This doesn’t surprise me really sadly. Tragic situation and possibly prevented. No real provision to check on those waiting.
Every hospital is so drowned and no politician cares. It’s planned obsolescence – make it so bad a private system is made functional, then drive down the NHS to nothing, then profit hugely.
This is what the tories have done to the country bit by bit intentionally over time it’s adding up now for all services, our defence, infrastructure….all gone to shit
Last year I suspected I’d broken a bone in my foot, so went to A&E.
A friendly lady made room for me to sit down on one of the chairs at the front as I was clearly hobbling.
I was feeling a bit sorry for myself until they told me about her husband’s predicament.
He’d slipped on some ice and must have snapped something in his leg as his foot was 90 degrees to his leg.
He’d been lying on the frozen floor for many hours waiting for an ambulance. I forget exactly how long it was but it was a length of time that shocked me anyway.
In the end his son picked him up off the floor and drove him to A&E instead of waiting. But they’d been waiting in A&E for something like four hours.
He said his leg had gone completely numb and felt cold.
It sounded like the leg had lost blood flow to it. A little later it seemed like they’d remembered he existed and you could see nurses and doctors glancing over at him and having concerned whispered conversations. Not long after they whisked him away in something of a hurry.
I hope he was alright. But it was a scary reminder of how broken the system is. It’s one thing to read about it when a big news story breaks but I don’t think we realise the extent of how it’s happening on a day to day basis.
I was unconscious in a&e a few years ago. The nurse laughed when I “fell asleep” when she was taking my blood. My partner did not find it funny.
They didn’t really care but also they didn’t have time to care and luckily I didn’t actually die.
I don’t remember much of it but my partner is pretty traumatized because they let him stay with me. In covid when you weren’t allowed people in a&e with you, they basically got him to watch me to make sure I didn’t die 👍
We were there for 6ish hours I think, I was in hospital for 2 weeks.
When I read this it was very sad but not surprising, which is even sadder
Can’t speak for other hospitals but i was actually quite impressed with A&E when my mum got taken in last week, from the ambulance in a guerney directly to a new triage room with 3 beds and several nurses where they did what tests they could.
Then taken in to the high dependency unit for more tests then general A&E ward, where she kept getting checked on by several nurses and a junior doctor over the span of the next several hours.
Granted she had to eventually wait “up to” 12 hours for a bed when they kept her in and the staff were clearly overburdened so there is that.