Dat is inderdaad het probleem met zulke mensen, ze zouden het inderdaad zo opnieuw doen. Daarom dat we ze geen beslissingen mogen laten nemen.
Schauvliege surely is one of the biggest trainwrecks we’ve ever had.
Honestly thought this was going to be a “de korrel”-article or satirical news source, but nope…
Joke has had a wild political ride and crashed quite bigly, however they still seem to find a way to keep digging their hole a bit further lol.
Vroeger werd zo iemand op het plein gezet, en met rotte groenten en eieren bekogeld. Goede oude tijd…
That’s cause she’s incompetent. You’d think people would have caught on to that by now.
So she approved it in 2017 because there was no data that said PFOS was harmful. It only was known in 2018.
Why did it take until 2021 that the population was informed about this (and not even by the government)? Why didn’t she cancel the permission after 2018? Why were no measures taken after 2018? The ground was still polluted.
I find it astonishing that nobody in our government has the courage to take responsibility for something anymore. They’re all hiding behind smoke screens and lousy excuses. When is there going to be a politician who takes action even if it’s not their responsibility?
> De hamvraag volgens haar is: was het duidelijk dat er een risico was voor de volksgezondheid? Nee, is het antwoord van Schauvliege op die vraag. “In 2017 wisten we dat PFOS een vervuilende stof was, maar niet dat ze een risico voor de volksgezondheid vormde.”
I’m not an expert but if[ a toxicological advice from 2017 says people shouldn’t eat eggs or vegetables from their garden](https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20210611_97283986), it would seem to me that there clearly was risk to public health.
Why are we still paying attention to this? I hoped PFOS would kill trees, but I was wrong. It’s the past, we can’t change it. We can still save the future but we have to act now if we want to stop the ents. It’s time to rid this world of trees once and for all.
Los van de rest van haar politieke vaardigheden is hetgeen mij toch het meest blijft verbazen haar compleet gebrek aan politiek tact. Na dat hele fiasco van de PFOS-affaire moet er toch op zijn minst ergens een heel kleine stemmetje aanwezig zijn dat zegt: “dit lijkt mij geen goed idee om openbaar te gaan verkondigen”. Blijkbaar niet dus.
Langst de andere kant zou het wel fijn zijn moesten al onze politiekers zo in elkaar zitten. Gewoon zeggen wat ze echt denken in plaats van altijd alles te verhullen in hun gepatenteerde zeverkoek.
Poor Mieke Schauvliege (groen) sharing your last name with such a creature.
Ik geloof haar
Tuurlijk. Gij wel ja.
how is this dumbass still under our payroll?
I’m starting to think Schauvliege is actually clinically insane
PFOS vervuiling: I sleep
Chemtrails: real shit
I think CD&V knows Schauvliege is burnt as fuck, so they are just going to use her as a scapegoat for pretty much anything they can. Why else would she insist on publicly making such an inflammatory statement? If she was thinking about a comeback, she’d have kept her mouth shut. Are they just telling her to take the fall for this, in exchange for some cozy board seats?
Also, she claims they didn’t know how dangerous PFOS were in 2017, but:
>Naarmate het normenkader veranderde, hebben mijn diensten dat ook gedaan. In 2018 lag ik trouwens aan de basis van het PFOS-actieplan, dat in 2020 is goedgekeurd.
So even if they only realized a year after the facts that PFOS were dangerous, why the fuck didn’t they say “hold on, didn’t we conclude LAST YEAR that this populated area was safe because they were under a now outdated PFOS limit? Let’s communicate this now!”
Dat dat mens nog een politieke carriere heeft is uberhaupt sterk. Als ge een bepaald thema naar de kloten wilt helpen moet ge gewoon Joke er op zetten.
We all have our differences but I think we can al agree this woman is nuts.
Ieeeee Joke Schauvliege. Deze posts zouden nsfl moeten getagged worden.
Dekorrel?
Sure, we all have a good laugh reading something like this. But in reality, this is saddening on so many levels it hurts.
Bizar.
De titel in de standaard is letterlijk: “Schauvliege: ‘Zou ik met de kennis van nu hetzelfde doen? Uiteraard niet'”
Dus het omgekeerde
Joke :
a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
“Joke Schauvliege vindt -”
And that’s as far as any reasonable human being reads.
The people who were responsible for the environmental checks of 3M, said they received orders from above to not do anything with the result of the checks. Why is nobody examining this? Who is the “above” that ordered those people not to do their job. How much did “above” receive for helping an American firm pollute?
They all pretend like it is new information that PFOS is dangerous, but why would “above” protect a company from environmental checks unless he/she knows they are polluting? And several studies prove that even at the time it was already known to be damaging for humans and environment. Why do we let them get away with: “We didn’t know”? This is clearly a lie. Some politician(s) made big bank protecting a polluting company. This could also explain the very arrogant way 3M refused to give any answers when questioned in that commission. They feel untouchable, because they won’t go down without taking their political connections with them. So they know those connections will make sure this won’t happen. This should end with jail time for the responsible parties. People living around that 3M factory are going to die from the consequences of being exposed to this crap. This is highly toxic stuff.
I can live with the fact politicians give themselves a top 1% paycheck. It’s what you get when people can decide their own wage. I cannot live with politicians selling away other people’s health. And that’s exactly what happened here. And we all know nobody will get any significant punishment. And we all accept this and move on with our lives. How is it that politicians killing their own citizens (the politician(s) protecting 3M is responsible for every person who gets cancer as a consequence) is not enough to wake up people? Are we all really that numb?
In de VS is het al veertig jaar een schandaal. Hoezo we wisten het niet?
Alle politici vinden niet dat ze fouten maakten in PFOS-dossier: “Ik zou het vandaag opnieuw zo doen”.
Politically all is very quiet about PFOS. Covering up for each other.
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Dat is inderdaad het probleem met zulke mensen, ze zouden het inderdaad zo opnieuw doen. Daarom dat we ze geen beslissingen mogen laten nemen.
Schauvliege surely is one of the biggest trainwrecks we’ve ever had.
Honestly thought this was going to be a “de korrel”-article or satirical news source, but nope…
Joke has had a wild political ride and crashed quite bigly, however they still seem to find a way to keep digging their hole a bit further lol.
Vroeger werd zo iemand op het plein gezet, en met rotte groenten en eieren bekogeld. Goede oude tijd…
That’s cause she’s incompetent. You’d think people would have caught on to that by now.
So she approved it in 2017 because there was no data that said PFOS was harmful. It only was known in 2018.
Why did it take until 2021 that the population was informed about this (and not even by the government)? Why didn’t she cancel the permission after 2018? Why were no measures taken after 2018? The ground was still polluted.
I find it astonishing that nobody in our government has the courage to take responsibility for something anymore. They’re all hiding behind smoke screens and lousy excuses. When is there going to be a politician who takes action even if it’s not their responsibility?
> De hamvraag volgens haar is: was het duidelijk dat er een risico was voor de volksgezondheid? Nee, is het antwoord van Schauvliege op die vraag. “In 2017 wisten we dat PFOS een vervuilende stof was, maar niet dat ze een risico voor de volksgezondheid vormde.”
I’m not an expert but if[ a toxicological advice from 2017 says people shouldn’t eat eggs or vegetables from their garden](https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20210611_97283986), it would seem to me that there clearly was risk to public health.
Why are we still paying attention to this? I hoped PFOS would kill trees, but I was wrong. It’s the past, we can’t change it. We can still save the future but we have to act now if we want to stop the ents. It’s time to rid this world of trees once and for all.
Los van de rest van haar politieke vaardigheden is hetgeen mij toch het meest blijft verbazen haar compleet gebrek aan politiek tact. Na dat hele fiasco van de PFOS-affaire moet er toch op zijn minst ergens een heel kleine stemmetje aanwezig zijn dat zegt: “dit lijkt mij geen goed idee om openbaar te gaan verkondigen”. Blijkbaar niet dus.
Langst de andere kant zou het wel fijn zijn moesten al onze politiekers zo in elkaar zitten. Gewoon zeggen wat ze echt denken in plaats van altijd alles te verhullen in hun gepatenteerde zeverkoek.
Poor Mieke Schauvliege (groen) sharing your last name with such a creature.
Ik geloof haar
Tuurlijk. Gij wel ja.
how is this dumbass still under our payroll?
I’m starting to think Schauvliege is actually clinically insane
PFOS vervuiling: I sleep
Chemtrails: real shit
I think CD&V knows Schauvliege is burnt as fuck, so they are just going to use her as a scapegoat for pretty much anything they can. Why else would she insist on publicly making such an inflammatory statement? If she was thinking about a comeback, she’d have kept her mouth shut. Are they just telling her to take the fall for this, in exchange for some cozy board seats?
Also, she claims they didn’t know how dangerous PFOS were in 2017, but:
>Naarmate het normenkader veranderde, hebben mijn diensten dat ook gedaan. In 2018 lag ik trouwens aan de basis van het PFOS-actieplan, dat in 2020 is goedgekeurd.
So even if they only realized a year after the facts that PFOS were dangerous, why the fuck didn’t they say “hold on, didn’t we conclude LAST YEAR that this populated area was safe because they were under a now outdated PFOS limit? Let’s communicate this now!”
Dat dat mens nog een politieke carriere heeft is uberhaupt sterk. Als ge een bepaald thema naar de kloten wilt helpen moet ge gewoon Joke er op zetten.
We all have our differences but I think we can al agree this woman is nuts.
Ieeeee Joke Schauvliege. Deze posts zouden nsfl moeten getagged worden.
Dekorrel?
Sure, we all have a good laugh reading something like this. But in reality, this is saddening on so many levels it hurts.
Bizar.
De titel in de standaard is letterlijk: “Schauvliege: ‘Zou ik met de kennis van nu hetzelfde doen? Uiteraard niet'”
Dus het omgekeerde
Joke :
a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
“Joke Schauvliege vindt -”
And that’s as far as any reasonable human being reads.
The people who were responsible for the environmental checks of 3M, said they received orders from above to not do anything with the result of the checks. Why is nobody examining this? Who is the “above” that ordered those people not to do their job. How much did “above” receive for helping an American firm pollute?
They all pretend like it is new information that PFOS is dangerous, but why would “above” protect a company from environmental checks unless he/she knows they are polluting? And several studies prove that even at the time it was already known to be damaging for humans and environment. Why do we let them get away with: “We didn’t know”? This is clearly a lie. Some politician(s) made big bank protecting a polluting company. This could also explain the very arrogant way 3M refused to give any answers when questioned in that commission. They feel untouchable, because they won’t go down without taking their political connections with them. So they know those connections will make sure this won’t happen. This should end with jail time for the responsible parties. People living around that 3M factory are going to die from the consequences of being exposed to this crap. This is highly toxic stuff.
I can live with the fact politicians give themselves a top 1% paycheck. It’s what you get when people can decide their own wage. I cannot live with politicians selling away other people’s health. And that’s exactly what happened here. And we all know nobody will get any significant punishment. And we all accept this and move on with our lives. How is it that politicians killing their own citizens (the politician(s) protecting 3M is responsible for every person who gets cancer as a consequence) is not enough to wake up people? Are we all really that numb?
In de VS is het al veertig jaar een schandaal. Hoezo we wisten het niet?
Alle politici vinden niet dat ze fouten maakten in PFOS-dossier: “Ik zou het vandaag opnieuw zo doen”.
Politically all is very quiet about PFOS. Covering up for each other.
How is she still in politics 🙄
Ja, lap. Joke is weer daar.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DiyQ2kYamX0