The US Senate has just passed the procedural vote to advance $95 billion foreign aid for Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan, overcoming a filibuster. The final passage could still be days away.

by Orcasystems99

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  1. Amazing how quick things can move when the game is getting ready to start.

  2. The Senate on Sunday moved one step closer to passing a $95.3 billion foreign aid bill with assistance for Ukraine and Israel with a key vote to advance the package.

    The Senate is working through the weekend on the bill, but it may still be days until a final vote as GOP Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky continues to slow the process.

    The chamber cleared a critical 60-vote threshold to advance the bill Thursday, took another procedural vote Friday night and held a floor debate on the legislation Saturday.

    But without an agreement from all 100 senators to speed up the process and swiftly pass the legislation, the Senate is scheduled to continue to work Sunday afternoon with a final vote sometime in the week.

    [https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/11/politics/senate-weekend-work-foreign-aid-package/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/11/politics/senate-weekend-work-foreign-aid-package/index.html)

  3. Please, please, let this pass. Im so frustrated and know who I will be voting for in my own state, based on this (even though I pretty much know who I am voting for)

  4. Super Bowl day/night so nothing till tomorrow earliest for anything 😉

  5. If it does pass the House. Watch as Russia just falls apart, that would be the final nail for them. They have only been holding out against Ukraine because the main funds drying out and the EU and various European countries taking longer. Stuff is getting to Ukraine, but it’s amazing when you can get single packages through. I’ll stay hopeful.

  6. So… there seems to be broad support for it. But it’s still not gonna pass because… why? Can Mike Johnson himself veto it? Or a few of them republicans?

  8. Thank god these US GOP representatives are willing to go against the idiot Trump!

    Trump is now one of the “worlds most dangerous people” to western democracy and NATO!

  9. It’s not going to pass. Nothing will change until November.

  10. The problem is putler and the trump wing nutcase are in the house. The ruling comming in the tax fraud case will blow trump support up.

  11. If it passes, the next step is to push the House for a discharge petition, as Johnson is unlikely to bring it to a vote directly. If you are American, find your rep below and contact them, at this point both parties need to estimate support so do contact them regardless.

    Find your Representative: [https://www.house.gov/](https://www.house.gov/)

    Find your Senator: [https://www.senate.gov/senators/](https://www.senate.gov/senators/)

  13. “Discharge Petition” has broken through into the public political discussion at a very low level. Chris Murphy, senator from Connecticut, gave this interview in which he discusses the recent border bill & its failure, and specifically mentions the option of a discharge petition and its odds of success: [https://youtu.be/gMjZxsJNRtE?si=B1MXtgbEWNGQML4b](https://youtu.be/gMjZxsJNRtE?si=B1MXtgbEWNGQML4b)

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    Trump’s “new” position seems to be evolving to say that all foreign aid must be a loan going forward, and he’s not just saying words to that regard in his rallies — he’s directly (and publicly) addressing the Senate in his opposition comments. At the moment, the Senate seems to be ignoring him which suggests the spell he held has broken, at least for the moment — but it’s impossible to say how long that will last.

    At least two Senators (Rubio/FL, Paul/KY) are still talking about border security in conjunction with the foreign aid bill, but Rubio seems to be attaching add-ons to the current bill while Paul seems to be trying to slow walk everything. You would not do amendment add-ons if you were trying to stop or slow-walk a bill, that is something you do with a bill you want to see pass.

    This is pretty standard for Rand Paul, I’m pretty sure he complains about the time and money to name a post office (which the only cost is the sign to put in the parking lot) and he *certainly* drags out anything that actually involves money. It’s his schtick. On its own I wouldn’t read too much into his statements unless others start to echo him. And Marco Rubio seems to be onboard with the aid bill, which is why he is attaching his own little tweaks.

  15. It won’t pass the House. If the Senate will approve H.R. 2 last years House bill that truly addresses immigration money and arms will flow to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. It may take another month but eventually it will pass. The Democrats desperately need a win. Not a finger wagging blame game. Biden let 8 million illegals in he better get the deportation machine in gear or the Dems won’t lose just the executive office. They’ll get slaughtered down ticket like 1994.

  16. I am fearful that even if this aid to Ukraine goes through, it has been delayed for so long that Ukraine has already lost some positions, taken hits to the morale, etc. that the 60 billion which would have been a game changer back then, needs to be like 100 billion at this point to have the same effect.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a bill for another 60 billion right after this first one, which will absolutely trigger the MAGAs and Trump. I can already see the Trump statements like “See?! They are asking more money already!!111 It’s a scam! By Biden!”.

  18. That would be hilarious if this somehow passed without border security provisions. Republicons could still campaign on the border crisis like they want and their rube voters probably won’t notice they’re the idiots who tanked it.

  19. It takes both houses of Congress to make this aid bill a reality. It’s easy for Putin fellow-travelers in the Senate to pass the bill and create the appearance that their party is still worth voting for, when they know their Putinist colleagues in the House are just going to shoot it down.

    The Senate will pass this on to the House of Representatives, which will promptly go on break for a month and do nothing. When they come back in April, they will suddenly discover that this new funding bill is unacceptable because it doesn’t address “the border crisis,” or because it *does* address it, or because it does not include the vital and eternal question of ship docking rights during penguin mating season in the Antarctic Treaty, or whatever the fuck else they think to come up with.

    The USA is the site of a major new front in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It is a political front, not a military front, but the country is under attack all the same. It makes sense — it is the only form of attack that Russia can undertake, if it hopes to eliminate Ukrainian military assets successfully.

    The attack will not end until those who are conducting it are defeated politically. They are not going to fix it themselves — their entire purpose is never to fix it.

  20. Maybe if we can frame it as a “war” we could finally get some healthcare out of these guys. Like… fund the “war on disease” or something.

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