Because a video of one bad new build means they are all bad, apparently
Avoiding new builds altogether may be a bit extreme, but I understand where you’re coming from. It’s true that buying a new build can come with its own set of challenges and risks. Quality issues, delays, and inflated prices are just a few things to watch out for. However, it’s not all doom and gloom.
Imagine if they will do videos of all old housing stock issues, that will be entertaining for sure
Some of the workmanship in this is so bad it’s funny. I laughed out loud at the bathroom door that only locks from the outside. Tragic.
So what do they do with wonky walls and floors that seems like a massive problem? do they offer a discount or do they smash it down?
The problem with the UK is everyone is so badly paid and demotivated that nobody cares.
Older houses are not badly built per se, but they are also not suited for modern living.
To prevent a bit if doom and gloom, the guy who does these videos does make a few on exemplary builds and companies.
It should also be remembered that this is not a new phenomenon, shit houses get fixed up or knocked down.
I worked for a house builder quite a long time ago and it put me off buying new builds. One of the maintenance team said, in relation to the NHBC guarantee, “all that means is we’ve got 10 years to avoid fixing issues”.
Rubble buried under the tiny gardens, poor drainage, totally inadequate parking, etc. old houses have more than their fair share of issues but new builds tend to be thrown up as quick as possible for as cheap as possible.
You can tell by the comments who lives in a new build and who doesn’t.
New builds aren’t all bad, you just need to do your research, I did and avoided the big builders for a mid sized one with a solid reputation. This is for a flat but the same applies, the snags that were wrong they fixed immediately and without complaint, couldn’t have hoped for a better process and a better purchase, the finish and quality is fantastic. Tread carefully as with any vital purchase.
My house was built in 1860 and I don’t think there’s a single spot anywhere that’s squared or level.
me BEFORE buying a Redrow new build IN 2021: probably just a small minority, it’ll be ok.
me AFTER buying a Redrow new build IN 2021: FUCK.
Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.
you have been warned.
My new build had a few small snags pre contract but has been perfect. I follow this lad on insta and it’s surprising how bad some of the sign offs are but don’t let this make you think every one is bad. Depends on the company a lot of the time. My house is 9 years old, I’ve had no major issues in terms of quality and my equity is very healthy fortunately
Honestly, after buying a 1920s house that has had 100 years of DIYers bodging the living shit out of everything in it, I wouldnt mind a new build.
Wtf is that garage on the thumbnail? I don’t think you’d fit a mobility scooter in there…
i own a home built in 2009/10 (Linden) and it is genuinely absolutely fine with everything put together well and to a high standard.
about the only thing i can pick fault at is the upstairs floor joists are posi-joists, which yes make running cables, pipes and ducting easy, but the upstairs floor is a little bit “springy” as a result.
as with any big purchase, do your research!
We live in a hundred year or so old terrace house. Its still a piece of shit. Cold, damp, noisy, cracks in everything, drafty. Just because its old doesn’t mean its good at all. And just because its new doesn’t mean its bad.
Every single house was a new build at some point
Our house is 15 years old, we’ve been here for nearly 10. We’ve had to have every toilet fixed as they were cheap and where they didn’t fit the fitters just filled the gaps with sealant. The bath leaked causing the ceiling to eventually start leaking. The oven blew a fuse and we found out it was plugged into a multi way on the floor instead of wired in like it should’ve been. The shower cubicle was only supported by 4 out of 8 struts and still doesn’t drain properly. The garden was just a rubble pit covered in turf the landscapers we got on removed about 3 tons of builders rubble and pipes and screws etc. The kitchen plumbing leaked. The fire alarms weren’t wired in so never would’ve worked. The lights in the landing and stairs were all mismatched but that could’ve been the original owners.
The estate near us that is still being built have similar issues, but some of the houses were only a year or two old
What happens with issues like this. Do the builders have to fix it. What happens if the wall is out of tolerance like he shown. Surely that is not an easy fix?
What I don’t understand about these videos is when you have structural items massively out of tolerance. Do they have to knock down the whole gable end of the house or dismantle the staircase etc to sort it out?
Or is it more “this is shit work, knock 3 grand off the price please”?
People overstate the issues with new builds to an extent.
Sure, a snagging survey will flag up problems but gey then get rectified.
When you buy an older house you literally spend the rest of your life fixing problems.
Ah the good old typical Reddit new build hate train.
A reminder that it depends massively on which developer has built it, and that the older buildings currently left standing are in large part due to survivorship bias because the shittily built ones got knocked down
Since Thatcherism absolutely nothing can be done for the benefit of society and the people in it. Only for profit. It’s sickening and we need to rid ourselves of it!
Never buy a new build. You always overpay.
Wait a few years until new builds have had a chance to settle and any problems show up and be fixed.
Your survey will show them up.
I got my house for 33% less than it cost when built and first sold.
Even if you buy a new build always have a survey done on the area.
Many new builds are on flood plains, have sewage problems as the local farm can’t cope. There’s often movement in the area etc etc.
Never buy a house that isn’t built. Never buy without visiting the site and area.
When I was a student I use to work on the building sites during the summer, early 80’s. I remember one new build site where the site manager put the houses so close together they managed to fit an extra house onto the plot that was not on the original plans.
It was never picked up by the council. It still to this day makes me chuckle.
It’s kind of annoying to see the amount of hate for new builds as if the entire concept of… building a house… is intrinsically negative.
I moved into a new build almost a year ago and have had no major issues at all, and the workmanship is perfectly fine throughout the whole house. Come to think of it, I can’t think of a single part that has left me thinking “oh yes, it is like this because it is a new build and new builds are bad.”
The only issue I had was a window not closing properly, which was promptly fixed when I reported it. Plus a few very minor things I can’t even remember, which also were promptly fixed after reporting.
Space Home is the organisation – credit where it’s due.
Once upon a time the builders were inspected by external officials. Now they
“self regulate” and work to “best practice”. A house used to have a 25 year mortgage and have a design life of 75 to 100 years. Now it seems they have a design life of ten years and we are heading towards 40 year mortgages.
Trusting the market has failed. We need a lot more government surveyors for all sorts of shoddy work, not just housing.
It wouldn’t be a UK sub post without everyone smugly gathering round to shit on something they think is “common”.
Go on, tell me what you think of people who buy cars on finance while you’re at it.
Bought two new builds, first was a bloke, had 76 snags which were all cosmetic and sold it a year after purchase for £25,000 profit.
Live in my second new build which is a Hopkins, had a odd job guy round the first day and put all our curtains up sorted any obvious snags. Had a list of 100 snags from professional snagging guy, all fixed within a month and again nearly all cosmetic (apart from the warped front door which they knew about already and fixed as soon as a new one came in). Only had these two experiences but both have been awesome.
Lived in 2 new builds now, never had any major structural issues. My first had no issues that I can remember, my current one the bath was leaking but the developer swiftly sent someone out to fix it asap.
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Because a video of one bad new build means they are all bad, apparently
Avoiding new builds altogether may be a bit extreme, but I understand where you’re coming from. It’s true that buying a new build can come with its own set of challenges and risks. Quality issues, delays, and inflated prices are just a few things to watch out for. However, it’s not all doom and gloom.
Imagine if they will do videos of all old housing stock issues, that will be entertaining for sure
Some of the workmanship in this is so bad it’s funny. I laughed out loud at the bathroom door that only locks from the outside. Tragic.
So what do they do with wonky walls and floors that seems like a massive problem? do they offer a discount or do they smash it down?
The problem with the UK is everyone is so badly paid and demotivated that nobody cares.
Older houses are not badly built per se, but they are also not suited for modern living.
To prevent a bit if doom and gloom, the guy who does these videos does make a few on exemplary builds and companies.
It should also be remembered that this is not a new phenomenon, shit houses get fixed up or knocked down.
I worked for a house builder quite a long time ago and it put me off buying new builds. One of the maintenance team said, in relation to the NHBC guarantee, “all that means is we’ve got 10 years to avoid fixing issues”.
Rubble buried under the tiny gardens, poor drainage, totally inadequate parking, etc. old houses have more than their fair share of issues but new builds tend to be thrown up as quick as possible for as cheap as possible.
You can tell by the comments who lives in a new build and who doesn’t.
New builds aren’t all bad, you just need to do your research, I did and avoided the big builders for a mid sized one with a solid reputation. This is for a flat but the same applies, the snags that were wrong they fixed immediately and without complaint, couldn’t have hoped for a better process and a better purchase, the finish and quality is fantastic. Tread carefully as with any vital purchase.
My house was built in 1860 and I don’t think there’s a single spot anywhere that’s squared or level.
me BEFORE buying a Redrow new build IN 2021: probably just a small minority, it’ll be ok.
me AFTER buying a Redrow new build IN 2021: FUCK.
Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.
you have been warned.
My new build had a few small snags pre contract but has been perfect. I follow this lad on insta and it’s surprising how bad some of the sign offs are but don’t let this make you think every one is bad. Depends on the company a lot of the time. My house is 9 years old, I’ve had no major issues in terms of quality and my equity is very healthy fortunately
Honestly, after buying a 1920s house that has had 100 years of DIYers bodging the living shit out of everything in it, I wouldnt mind a new build.
Wtf is that garage on the thumbnail? I don’t think you’d fit a mobility scooter in there…
i own a home built in 2009/10 (Linden) and it is genuinely absolutely fine with everything put together well and to a high standard.
about the only thing i can pick fault at is the upstairs floor joists are posi-joists, which yes make running cables, pipes and ducting easy, but the upstairs floor is a little bit “springy” as a result.
as with any big purchase, do your research!
We live in a hundred year or so old terrace house. Its still a piece of shit. Cold, damp, noisy, cracks in everything, drafty. Just because its old doesn’t mean its good at all. And just because its new doesn’t mean its bad.
Every single house was a new build at some point
Our house is 15 years old, we’ve been here for nearly 10. We’ve had to have every toilet fixed as they were cheap and where they didn’t fit the fitters just filled the gaps with sealant. The bath leaked causing the ceiling to eventually start leaking. The oven blew a fuse and we found out it was plugged into a multi way on the floor instead of wired in like it should’ve been. The shower cubicle was only supported by 4 out of 8 struts and still doesn’t drain properly. The garden was just a rubble pit covered in turf the landscapers we got on removed about 3 tons of builders rubble and pipes and screws etc. The kitchen plumbing leaked. The fire alarms weren’t wired in so never would’ve worked. The lights in the landing and stairs were all mismatched but that could’ve been the original owners.
The estate near us that is still being built have similar issues, but some of the houses were only a year or two old
What happens with issues like this. Do the builders have to fix it. What happens if the wall is out of tolerance like he shown. Surely that is not an easy fix?
What I don’t understand about these videos is when you have structural items massively out of tolerance. Do they have to knock down the whole gable end of the house or dismantle the staircase etc to sort it out?
Or is it more “this is shit work, knock 3 grand off the price please”?
People overstate the issues with new builds to an extent.
Sure, a snagging survey will flag up problems but gey then get rectified.
When you buy an older house you literally spend the rest of your life fixing problems.
Ah the good old typical Reddit new build hate train.
A reminder that it depends massively on which developer has built it, and that the older buildings currently left standing are in large part due to survivorship bias because the shittily built ones got knocked down
Since Thatcherism absolutely nothing can be done for the benefit of society and the people in it. Only for profit. It’s sickening and we need to rid ourselves of it!
Never buy a new build. You always overpay.
Wait a few years until new builds have had a chance to settle and any problems show up and be fixed.
Your survey will show them up.
I got my house for 33% less than it cost when built and first sold.
Even if you buy a new build always have a survey done on the area.
Many new builds are on flood plains, have sewage problems as the local farm can’t cope. There’s often movement in the area etc etc.
Never buy a house that isn’t built. Never buy without visiting the site and area.
When I was a student I use to work on the building sites during the summer, early 80’s. I remember one new build site where the site manager put the houses so close together they managed to fit an extra house onto the plot that was not on the original plans.
It was never picked up by the council. It still to this day makes me chuckle.
It’s kind of annoying to see the amount of hate for new builds as if the entire concept of… building a house… is intrinsically negative.
I moved into a new build almost a year ago and have had no major issues at all, and the workmanship is perfectly fine throughout the whole house. Come to think of it, I can’t think of a single part that has left me thinking “oh yes, it is like this because it is a new build and new builds are bad.”
The only issue I had was a window not closing properly, which was promptly fixed when I reported it. Plus a few very minor things I can’t even remember, which also were promptly fixed after reporting.
Space Home is the organisation – credit where it’s due.
Once upon a time the builders were inspected by external officials. Now they
“self regulate” and work to “best practice”. A house used to have a 25 year mortgage and have a design life of 75 to 100 years. Now it seems they have a design life of ten years and we are heading towards 40 year mortgages.
Trusting the market has failed. We need a lot more government surveyors for all sorts of shoddy work, not just housing.
It wouldn’t be a UK sub post without everyone smugly gathering round to shit on something they think is “common”.
Go on, tell me what you think of people who buy cars on finance while you’re at it.
Bought two new builds, first was a bloke, had 76 snags which were all cosmetic and sold it a year after purchase for £25,000 profit.
Live in my second new build which is a Hopkins, had a odd job guy round the first day and put all our curtains up sorted any obvious snags. Had a list of 100 snags from professional snagging guy, all fixed within a month and again nearly all cosmetic (apart from the warped front door which they knew about already and fixed as soon as a new one came in). Only had these two experiences but both have been awesome.
Lived in 2 new builds now, never had any major structural issues. My first had no issues that I can remember, my current one the bath was leaking but the developer swiftly sent someone out to fix it asap.