“A few bucks is more important to me than Ukraine’s ability to defend itself and exist”.
Shame, as not only Ukraine fights to defend its territory, and identity, but also for the war not to spill over Poland and the Baltic countries. And this is how they behave.
We should all stick together and help one another, that way we can really anger and even make the rusians very uncomfortable.
I’m going to get a shit load of flack for this, but even though I’m vehemently pro Ukraine I’m going to say it and people either accept it or going to put their heads in the sand.
Flooding Eastern European countries with cheap Ukrainian grain would cripple said countries’ agricultural economy.
I’m all for getting Ukrainian grain sealed up and shipped , straight trough Eastern Europe to countries that need it, but it must not hurt those countries’ own economy
Well I guess if Ukraine loses the land to Russia in the end, then the Polish farmers will have more on their plates than some grain to worry about.
Ukraine needs supper right now and not petty squabbles.
No one wants to talk about it but farmer’s are some of the most entitled, whiniest groups in society. The second their monopolies face threats, they throw tantrums.
As the world starves. Impressive stance, Poland.
/S
Western nations should be buying Ukranian grain and donating it to nations experiencing food crisis. Especially if they’re nations currently being influenced by Russia.
Don’t these farmers realise that this grain helps keep Ukraine’s economy afloat while whey stop the Russians? Smh
Anyone that wastes food should be made to go hungry
My guess is these protests are being supported by Russian propaganda.
Honestly a lot of people would protest if it were their livelihood on the line. It is easy to quip one liners when you have nothing on the line.
The main impetus to allow so much grain through Poland was because of Russian impediments in the Black Sea. Sure it benefits the Polish consumers though. The Polish government should come up with a better way to get the grain through without flooding the domestic market if they can.
Does Poland have a police force? Why these obvious Russian agents are allowed to endanger national security of the country again and again?
As a ukrainian, I would gladly provide ruzzians a green corridor to Poland. But that’s not how real life works. Considering how much Poland had helped us to withstand ru aggression I can’t just ignore this disgusting behaviour. What makes it REALLY bad is that grain fields and vaults are being bombed and burned, we had farmers die and get maimed because of mines.
They can protest, but the way they do it makes Ukraine weaker during a genocidal war and is just shameful.
A lot of people here are coming down hard on these farmers who are trying to save their livelihood. People are like “How could Polish people be so hard on poor Ukrainians who are selfless fighters for all!” Need I remind you of the massacres of some 100,000 Poles by Ukrainian nationalists during the 1940s for purely ethnic cleansing purposes? It is not that long ago on historical time scale. Poles and Ukrainians share a history of existential rivalry. Ukraine here is fighting for Ukraine, first and foremost and a lot of Polish families have not forgotten the atrocities of 1940s.
After reading the comments I feel like I had enough internet for today.
But yet “GOP bad”
Now before you judge whole country by truck drivers think about who does this work in your country.
“I COLLECTED 4,000 MINES FROM A THOUSAND HECTARES”. HOW FARMERS SOW WINTER CROPS IN THE KHERSON REGION
Fuck you, Poland. You were occupied by Russians not even 100 years ago.
Protesters? Sounds more like vandals
I smell the 1773 Boston tea party again…
If grain from Ukraine doesn’t meet EU’s quality standards, are they selling it in Poland? Or is it just going through Poland on the way to be sold somewhere else?
If it’s getting sold somewhere else then letting it pass through would be fine, but it makes sense that Polish farmers would be mad that they now have to compete with grain from Ukraine
War or not, integrating an agricultural powerhouse like Ukraine wit the EU was always going to cause issue with farmers in current EU countries.
Well I don’t want to eat technical grain that’s way below the EU standards. Maybe asphalt is the right place for it? Ukrainian oligarchs won’t be that much poorer because of it.
Fun fact – a ton of ukrainian grain was sold for around 15 usd. Makes you think how bad of the quality the grain was.
Poland’s first responsibility is to itself; protecting its own citizens, markets and territorial integrity.
It is not acceptable for outsiders to undermine local markets by selling products which don’t meet regulations.
Ukraine is a nation state which has agency, talented people, and access to help all over the world. If they want to transport their grain through Poland, then there’s rules and procedures which need to be followed. Ukraine has been a victim of Soviet and post-Soviet oligarchy for a long time and is a deeply corrupt nation, with very different approaches to business than Poland.
Poland are right to be cautious, and right to defend their borders. It’s this attention to detail, rule of law, adherence to standards and respect of the market which means they’re not in Ukraine’s shoes right now.
It’ll be good when they can collect their Russian bullets.
Why? If Ukrainians weren’t fighting they would be next!
Come on Polish farmers there’s a bloody war going on here can’t you just suck it up for a bit? Maybe form a collective for the greater good? I dunno it all seems counterproductive and Russia are laughing.
If they’re doing this during the war I don’t see how Ukraine ever gets into the EU.
I don’t understand how Ukrainian truck drivers or any other person crossing the border are related to what is going on with grain in Poland. Who exactly is selling, buying and using this grain in Europe?
Russia is scum
Obviously these are Putin’s robots!!!!!! Why aren’t they in a Polish prison yet?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!
I know Poland supports Ukraine at war, but its painful to see such petty and criminal behavior from polish farmers
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“A few bucks is more important to me than Ukraine’s ability to defend itself and exist”.
Shame, as not only Ukraine fights to defend its territory, and identity, but also for the war not to spill over Poland and the Baltic countries. And this is how they behave.
We should all stick together and help one another, that way we can really anger and even make the rusians very uncomfortable.
I’m going to get a shit load of flack for this, but even though I’m vehemently pro Ukraine I’m going to say it and people either accept it or going to put their heads in the sand.
Flooding Eastern European countries with cheap Ukrainian grain would cripple said countries’ agricultural economy.
I’m all for getting Ukrainian grain sealed up and shipped , straight trough Eastern Europe to countries that need it, but it must not hurt those countries’ own economy
Well I guess if Ukraine loses the land to Russia in the end, then the Polish farmers will have more on their plates than some grain to worry about.
Ukraine needs supper right now and not petty squabbles.
No one wants to talk about it but farmer’s are some of the most entitled, whiniest groups in society. The second their monopolies face threats, they throw tantrums.
As the world starves. Impressive stance, Poland.
/S
Western nations should be buying Ukranian grain and donating it to nations experiencing food crisis. Especially if they’re nations currently being influenced by Russia.
Don’t these farmers realise that this grain helps keep Ukraine’s economy afloat while whey stop the Russians? Smh
Anyone that wastes food should be made to go hungry
My guess is these protests are being supported by Russian propaganda.
Honestly a lot of people would protest if it were their livelihood on the line. It is easy to quip one liners when you have nothing on the line.
The main impetus to allow so much grain through Poland was because of Russian impediments in the Black Sea. Sure it benefits the Polish consumers though. The Polish government should come up with a better way to get the grain through without flooding the domestic market if they can.
Does Poland have a police force? Why these obvious Russian agents are allowed to endanger national security of the country again and again?
As a ukrainian, I would gladly provide ruzzians a green corridor to Poland. But that’s not how real life works. Considering how much Poland had helped us to withstand ru aggression I can’t just ignore this disgusting behaviour. What makes it REALLY bad is that grain fields and vaults are being bombed and burned, we had farmers die and get maimed because of mines.
They can protest, but the way they do it makes Ukraine weaker during a genocidal war and is just shameful.
A lot of people here are coming down hard on these farmers who are trying to save their livelihood. People are like “How could Polish people be so hard on poor Ukrainians who are selfless fighters for all!” Need I remind you of the massacres of some 100,000 Poles by Ukrainian nationalists during the 1940s for purely ethnic cleansing purposes? It is not that long ago on historical time scale. Poles and Ukrainians share a history of existential rivalry. Ukraine here is fighting for Ukraine, first and foremost and a lot of Polish families have not forgotten the atrocities of 1940s.
After reading the comments I feel like I had enough internet for today.
But yet “GOP bad”
Now before you judge whole country by truck drivers think about who does this work in your country.
“I COLLECTED 4,000 MINES FROM A THOUSAND HECTARES”. HOW FARMERS SOW WINTER CROPS IN THE KHERSON REGION
https://war.ukraine.ua/food-security/farmers-stories/farmers-sow-winter-crops-kherson-region/?fbclid=IwAR0mj2GHnzuUUSa6CPRUcKJVcPoMIzgmAuYbc8jv0qWbtbuXvQXLrRCbwOQ
Fuck you, Poland. You were occupied by Russians not even 100 years ago.
Protesters? Sounds more like vandals
I smell the 1773 Boston tea party again…
If grain from Ukraine doesn’t meet EU’s quality standards, are they selling it in Poland? Or is it just going through Poland on the way to be sold somewhere else?
If it’s getting sold somewhere else then letting it pass through would be fine, but it makes sense that Polish farmers would be mad that they now have to compete with grain from Ukraine
War or not, integrating an agricultural powerhouse like Ukraine wit the EU was always going to cause issue with farmers in current EU countries.
Well I don’t want to eat technical grain that’s way below the EU standards. Maybe asphalt is the right place for it? Ukrainian oligarchs won’t be that much poorer because of it.
Fun fact – a ton of ukrainian grain was sold for around 15 usd. Makes you think how bad of the quality the grain was.
Poland’s first responsibility is to itself; protecting its own citizens, markets and territorial integrity.
It is not acceptable for outsiders to undermine local markets by selling products which don’t meet regulations.
Ukraine is a nation state which has agency, talented people, and access to help all over the world. If they want to transport their grain through Poland, then there’s rules and procedures which need to be followed. Ukraine has been a victim of Soviet and post-Soviet oligarchy for a long time and is a deeply corrupt nation, with very different approaches to business than Poland.
Poland are right to be cautious, and right to defend their borders. It’s this attention to detail, rule of law, adherence to standards and respect of the market which means they’re not in Ukraine’s shoes right now.
It’ll be good when they can collect their Russian bullets.
Why? If Ukrainians weren’t fighting they would be next!
Come on Polish farmers there’s a bloody war going on here can’t you just suck it up for a bit? Maybe form a collective for the greater good? I dunno it all seems counterproductive and Russia are laughing.
If they’re doing this during the war I don’t see how Ukraine ever gets into the EU.
I don’t understand how Ukrainian truck drivers or any other person crossing the border are related to what is going on with grain in Poland. Who exactly is selling, buying and using this grain in Europe?
Russia is scum
Obviously these are Putin’s robots!!!!!! Why aren’t they in a Polish prison yet?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!
I know Poland supports Ukraine at war, but its painful to see such petty and criminal behavior from polish farmers