Meeting between German, Polish and French foreign ministers following Trump’s remarks; “we are building a European Security and Defense Union” [..] “By summer 2024 we aim to develop a reform roadmap with all 27 EU states”

by EUstrongerthanUS

23 comments

  1. Source: https://twitter.com/GermanyDiplo/status/1757113374230385051

    It is great news that the Weimar Triangle is being revived. It went into deep freeze during the previous PiS government led by PiS. 

  4. The dynamic is very interesting. The US was able to guide NATO and it‘s member states in a way it mainly benefitted US politics with the added feature of protection for all the other ones. This ensured the US can pursue whatever goals they have while they can also use the other member states as resource for their ambition.
    Putin and his puppet Trump have managed that the NATO EU member states aren‘t sure anymore about the commitment of the US. In short this will result in less influence by the US and more independence of Europe.

  5. It’s so nice when professionals are in charge in Poland. eight stolen years of total regress need to be made up fast

  6. There is no other option. EU must be independent from USA in all posible situation.

  7. About time that some states realize they can’t depend on the US indefinitely.

  9. Just one regional election (from the European perspective) and the alliance fails.

  10. Following but not caused by Trump’s remarks. I promise you nobody here gives a rat’s ass what that clown says because his word has proven to be about as reliable as an expired gas station condom.

  12. Finally! Can’t depend on someone who’s an ocean away for defence. 

  13. I think EU should step away from NATO and build its own defense alliance regardless of Trump’s comments. By stepping away from NATO EU won’t be forced to comply with US policies and become less reliant on US for defense.

  14. Better leave Hungary out of any plans you don’t want blocked

  15. USA is unreliable and shady. Europe can’t continue to bet on USA’s leadership maintaining stability. I mean, the sCOTUS is bonkers.

  16. So Trump was right after all?

    Europe has not paid their share. Finally now they are waking up.

    Am I missing something?

    Even NATO’S leader Jens Stoltenberg agrees on this.

  17. It’s refreshing to see Poland being a significant player, respected and taken into account, since PiS was booted from power.

    Such cooperation, initiatives, trust and positive relationship was not and will never be feasible with PiS representing Poland. I hope the voters don’t forget it in the future: PiS means Poland as a pariah in Europe.

  18. France should stay away from this, as per usual we will be sidelined as soon as the americans will shorten their leash.

  19. Hopefully Europe can start some more large scale multinational military R&D in order to stop relying so heavily on imported American equipment in the coming decades

  20. It’s welcome, but it rises a lot of question: what about cooperation like FCAS, tanks, skyshield? How much should be “purchased in Europe” to, for instance, avoid the ongoing situation Israel has with F35 where the Dutch are blocking exports of some part to them? What about nukes? What about expeditionary capabilities? Are the UK a partner?

    Also, one day, perhaps, the EU will move forwards before the crisis hit, and not after. But this is not the day (still cool it’s moving).

  23. Hungary: “woud be a shame if something happens to it”

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