Anybody seen any solution yet for housebound people who rely on delivered shopping?
Acknowledging that a good idea mishandled can result in it being shit isn’t some fucking mad conspiracy. Lots of other countries managed to make this work without a ton of hassle, just like other countries managed to do postcodes in an efficient manner, and the people in charge of implementing it here learned nothing from those successes.
Maybe this will work, but I’m 100% convinced the customer is getting the worst deal here.
The store: increases prices to allow for the deposit, rents out or owns the recycling units which themselves collect the materials which can be resold or reporposed for a tidy profit. The store also gets to keep the deposit if nobody brings the material back.
The customer: has to pay the deposit upfront, needs to then prep the bottles etc. and transport them back to the store to get the deposit back.
Bottom line here is that the customer is doing more work for no real extra reward, and the stores are doing a little extra work for pretty much all of the available profit.
All this does is encourage bin dipping.
With all the post here about it has made me realise just how little bottle and cans I’d buy because since it’s came in I have not bought a single one to even have to opportunity to give out about the scheme. Shame really love a good moan.
Once upon a time we had tax paid waste bins..but of course the government privatized it. If every household in the country had tax paid recycling now would we even need this fuck acting?
Does anyone know what date they will be introducing the reverse vending machines for those in wheelchairs? The current ones can not be reached by those in chairs.
I took a bag of cans back today and only 2 were accepted. I’m not worried at all about it for now. It’s a great excuse to try and give up the 7up and Diet Coke.
Of all the terrible ideas and plans this government has had this is possibly the worst.
The amount of fossil fuels burned dropping the stuff back will far out weigh any gains.
If I’m paying extra per plastic bottle I’m definitely littering , soemone else has to pick it up so I can get my money’s worth
The scheme has been a pigs ear. Someone made a great point that German bottles and cans were cheaper than Ireland WITH the scheme involved. Why was the Irish scheme burdened with a 25c increase on something already more expensive than other EU countries?
And on top of that, the lac of meaningful warnings, that full containers aren’t regularly collected, and shops chancing their arm by increasing the price without introducing the labels yet, has led to it having awful teething pains.
Just once would I like a government that had a carrot approach instead of the stick. Nobody would have complained if a 25c voucher was implemented for a few years to sort it out. Then the government could do the levy.
I’m sure that the picture with the OP means something but I’m afraid I don’t get it. Half the sub has a weird calendar?
My biggest bugbear is that it doesn’t give you an option of letting the machine take the bottle even if no deposit is due. I’ve brought my container of plastic bottles and it rejected all but one so then I’m bringing them back home, so annoying
So many people are unwilling to make even the smallest sacrifice in the name of climate action. Whingers
I’m 100% behind any schemes for recycling but they really messed up on this. They had such a great opportunity to solve things that are actually a problem but wasted it on the incentive for recycling cans. Probably one of the handful of things that are recycled well in the country.
The problem mainly lies with the likes of petrol stations where people will just dump whatever cans that are in their cars into the general waste bins. If it is such a big deal, why not just put in recycling bins at these stations?
The real problem that needed to be addressed was disposable vapes. These are what are littered in the ground everywhere. The return incentive should have been with these. They would be returned if people got money back on them. And that’s not even touching on the fire hazard they have for waste companies and collection vehicles.
Some dope who’s not read 1984: “This is like 1984!”
I collected all the cans and bottles from the neighbours on the road over the week, got €372 back. Not bad
Does anyone know what the unclaimed levy goes towards? Do shops profit off it or does it go into some sort of fund?
Is this meant to be a reference to 1984 the literary work? Big brother is watching you…recycle?
Wish they had some kind of deal with waste management companies. I was already using the green bin for my bottles so this is just more work for me
It’s just recycling, it’s very straight forward. convinced half the posters here are just my Da on burner accounts
I’m all for a proper scheme that improves the quality of the recycling materials but this just seems like a pain in the hole. I’m obviously not going to go back to the shop with just a few bottles. I’m gonna stockpile them at home and return them in bulk. But this will also be a pain hogging the machine while I despoit a load of bottles and cans and no doubt alot of them won’t register and I’ll just have to bring them home.
I don’t live in Ireland anymore, I’m in the Netherlands. What’s wrong with the scheme? It’s the thing we’ve had here for donkeys years. Works very well
For anyone asking what the point of this is, it’s to increase plastic and tin recycling rates specifically but also reduce their usage.
About 90% of households claim to use their green wheelie bin, but about 25% of waste in household general bins is recyclable.
So there’s a gap there. I’d say that gap is mostly apartment blocks. The number jumps to 40% for businesses, which is not surprising.
So while there is work to do to get people to use recycling facilities better, there are other ways to prevent plastic and aluminium waste from going into the collection process at all. And this is one of them.
This works exceptionally well in other countries. Why cannot it work here?
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Anybody seen any solution yet for housebound people who rely on delivered shopping?
Acknowledging that a good idea mishandled can result in it being shit isn’t some fucking mad conspiracy. Lots of other countries managed to make this work without a ton of hassle, just like other countries managed to do postcodes in an efficient manner, and the people in charge of implementing it here learned nothing from those successes.
Maybe this will work, but I’m 100% convinced the customer is getting the worst deal here.
The store: increases prices to allow for the deposit, rents out or owns the recycling units which themselves collect the materials which can be resold or reporposed for a tidy profit. The store also gets to keep the deposit if nobody brings the material back.
The customer: has to pay the deposit upfront, needs to then prep the bottles etc. and transport them back to the store to get the deposit back.
Bottom line here is that the customer is doing more work for no real extra reward, and the stores are doing a little extra work for pretty much all of the available profit.
All this does is encourage bin dipping.
With all the post here about it has made me realise just how little bottle and cans I’d buy because since it’s came in I have not bought a single one to even have to opportunity to give out about the scheme. Shame really love a good moan.
Once upon a time we had tax paid waste bins..but of course the government privatized it. If every household in the country had tax paid recycling now would we even need this fuck acting?
Does anyone know what date they will be introducing the reverse vending machines for those in wheelchairs? The current ones can not be reached by those in chairs.
I took a bag of cans back today and only 2 were accepted. I’m not worried at all about it for now. It’s a great excuse to try and give up the 7up and Diet Coke.
Of all the terrible ideas and plans this government has had this is possibly the worst.
The amount of fossil fuels burned dropping the stuff back will far out weigh any gains.
If I’m paying extra per plastic bottle I’m definitely littering , soemone else has to pick it up so I can get my money’s worth
The scheme has been a pigs ear. Someone made a great point that German bottles and cans were cheaper than Ireland WITH the scheme involved. Why was the Irish scheme burdened with a 25c increase on something already more expensive than other EU countries?
And on top of that, the lac of meaningful warnings, that full containers aren’t regularly collected, and shops chancing their arm by increasing the price without introducing the labels yet, has led to it having awful teething pains.
Just once would I like a government that had a carrot approach instead of the stick. Nobody would have complained if a 25c voucher was implemented for a few years to sort it out. Then the government could do the levy.
I’m sure that the picture with the OP means something but I’m afraid I don’t get it. Half the sub has a weird calendar?
My biggest bugbear is that it doesn’t give you an option of letting the machine take the bottle even if no deposit is due. I’ve brought my container of plastic bottles and it rejected all but one so then I’m bringing them back home, so annoying
So many people are unwilling to make even the smallest sacrifice in the name of climate action. Whingers
I’m 100% behind any schemes for recycling but they really messed up on this. They had such a great opportunity to solve things that are actually a problem but wasted it on the incentive for recycling cans. Probably one of the handful of things that are recycled well in the country.
The problem mainly lies with the likes of petrol stations where people will just dump whatever cans that are in their cars into the general waste bins. If it is such a big deal, why not just put in recycling bins at these stations?
The real problem that needed to be addressed was disposable vapes. These are what are littered in the ground everywhere. The return incentive should have been with these. They would be returned if people got money back on them. And that’s not even touching on the fire hazard they have for waste companies and collection vehicles.
Some dope who’s not read 1984: “This is like 1984!”
I collected all the cans and bottles from the neighbours on the road over the week, got €372 back. Not bad
Does anyone know what the unclaimed levy goes towards? Do shops profit off it or does it go into some sort of fund?
Is this meant to be a reference to 1984 the literary work? Big brother is watching you…recycle?
Wish they had some kind of deal with waste management companies. I was already using the green bin for my bottles so this is just more work for me
It’s just recycling, it’s very straight forward. convinced half the posters here are just my Da on burner accounts
I’m all for a proper scheme that improves the quality of the recycling materials but this just seems like a pain in the hole. I’m obviously not going to go back to the shop with just a few bottles. I’m gonna stockpile them at home and return them in bulk. But this will also be a pain hogging the machine while I despoit a load of bottles and cans and no doubt alot of them won’t register and I’ll just have to bring them home.
I don’t live in Ireland anymore, I’m in the Netherlands. What’s wrong with the scheme? It’s the thing we’ve had here for donkeys years. Works very well
For anyone asking what the point of this is, it’s to increase plastic and tin recycling rates specifically but also reduce their usage.
About 90% of households claim to use their green wheelie bin, but about 25% of waste in household general bins is recyclable.
So there’s a gap there. I’d say that gap is mostly apartment blocks. The number jumps to 40% for businesses, which is not surprising.
So while there is work to do to get people to use recycling facilities better, there are other ways to prevent plastic and aluminium waste from going into the collection process at all. And this is one of them.
This works exceptionally well in other countries. Why cannot it work here?