“Eastern European countries won’t get help at the expense of our taxpayers” – Republican congressman interviewed by Polish TVN24.
by the_battle_bunny
“Eastern European countries won’t get help at the expense of our taxpayers” – Republican congressman interviewed by Polish TVN24.
by the_battle_bunny
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Fuck the yanks
If America is no longer an ally, Europe should stop buying American weapons whenever possible. That messaage should cut through the GOP bs, if their defense contractor donors tell them to stfu.
It is clear that the Russian threat needs a strong response, and that means spending a lot of money on new weapons and munitions. European defense contractors cannot match the performance of many US systems, but what they do produce is more than enough to fight back a Russian attack, provided the quantities are enough.
Note: He was specifically told that Poland is paying its share. Despite this, he reiterated that US shouldn’t help Eastern Euros at the expense of American taxpayers.
I am confusion…
Both the far left and far right are pro Russia….
Future headline: Poland categorically denies it has been secretly developing nuclear weapons
We in Europe should no longer put our heads in the sand. This sentiment will not disappear with Trump, but is part of a global anti globalist trend we are seeing. We have to rely on ourselves and eachother for keeping ourselves and our children save. It means we need to invest more on defense, create European joint armies and build strategic nuclear missiles.
So I’m guessing Poland’s love affair with Trump and all that is over, right? No more speeches by the guy in Poland I’m guessing.
There were some kind of Polish people who were certainly okay with Trump back in the day (I personally knew one).
I’m not surprised. A certain part of American society believes they shouldn’t help others regardless of the situation, be they other Americans or other countries.
If Republicans are openly saying this, I think it’s about time to reassess defense ties with the US (including purchases of military hardware). These republican fuckers literally dragged entire Europe into their war in Afghanistan by invoking article 5 and now they’re saying… even broadcasting (which makes that attack much more likely) that they won’t lift a finger to help Europe in case they get attacked. All because of the fact that they hitched their wagon to one of the dumbest, most petty individual in the US history of politics and want to make him their king.
It’s not that all Americans think this way, nor am I diminishing their help to Ukraine and past commitments in Europe… but holy shit.. these guys are literally one of 2 political parties and they have a fairly good chance at winning the next election. This should really start ringing the alarm bells in Europe and world in general.
Why those people don’t understand that it’s very likely that they won’t even have to defend it if they just shut up. I seriously that Russia will attack NATO any time soon unless it’s very weak and not united
Americans with “Eastern European” descent should listen carefully now and know who they would vote for in November.
This is such a mask off moment
Republicans are a bunch of clowns who can’t govern, simple as that.
Own the libs / doing nothing by obstructing everything is not a platform to run a country on.
Chip Roy is one of 435 member of the HoR, elected for the first time in 2019.
His opinion matters about as little as the likes of Clare Daly or Michael Kretschmer.
The US and Europe remain tied with overwhelming support for it on both side.
Aren’t Eastern European countries mostly the ones who meet the 2% defense GDP target, though? In that sense, they’re completing their end of the agreement (unlike many other countries).
If completing the preset condition won’t be enough, then NATO itself will turn out to be a balloon… big and fancy on the outside, but empty inside.
Haha, and dumb Eastern European right wingers think that American right wingers are their allies, just because they are white.
These are the same kind of isolationists who made America mostly watch on the sidelines while Hitler was rampaging all over Europe — and despite having FDR as President. It took being Pearl Harbor’d on the other side of the world to wake them up.
Europe needs to be strong for itself now.
They forget that Western allies rallied around US and went to Afghanistan – no questions asked. No bs around taxpayers money. They just did..
US lost its credibility. What a shitshow
Did they ask him about how many times nato article 5 has been invoked by a Nato member and if he believes Poland acted incorrectly in their decision to come to the aid and support of the US after it invoked article 5?
Furthermore did they ask him If he believes that the 44 polish soldiers who died in Afghanistan or the 20 polish soldiers who died in Iraq because Poland choose to stand shoulder to shoulder with the US should instead have abandoned their US ally in their time of need?
Europeans shouldn’t forget that it’s mostly Republicans / GOP selling out their own country and their allies.
Similar to the clowns that we have in Europe cheering for Putin.
No better argument why EU and Europe as a whole should start spending seriously on its own defense and in its own MIC than how fickle the US policies are with morons like that.
This is today’s GOP, in thrall to Russia.
When I lived in Poland, a lot (if not most) of the Polish people I knew who had an opinion about US politics favored the Republicans. I suspect most are coming around to regret that support.
What about the only time in history article 5 was invoked by the US and all NATO countries jumped in its aid, what does this congressman say to those European soldiers who gave their life to fight for the US?
What a load of fucking crap. NATO alliance was NEVER about money
These troglodytes seem to forget they are the only country to use the article 5 so far.
How many “eastern european” soldiers died in their war?
In 1991, when DDR was already annexed to the Federal Republic of Germany, the German government offered to Finland a possibility to buy East German weapons at the price of scrap metal. So Finland bought huge amounts of former East German weaponry. Hundreds of tanks, 500 howitzers, one hundred thousand AK-47s, 300 million cartridges and all kind of ammunition so much that the military experts estimated Finland to be the strongest country militarily in Northern Europe after that deal. Mostly these weapons are still in storage and in use. The price was 160 million DM, which is about one hundred million euros in today’s money. If you buy new weapons, you could buy one F-35 fighter with that money.
So guys, that’s how you build an army. By the help of your friends and good timing. This was a big geopolitical move and it created one of the strongest locks of European defence.
I wonder how they think the US will still remain a superpower when it abandons the alliance it created and dominated since its inception?
Good luck fighting China without the support of NATO members and with a reputation of being unreliable to its allies. If I was Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, I would be very worried looking at how things are playing out.
What does it matter what this or any guy has to say. It an alliance and you either honour it or break it.
I don’t think the US Republicans quite grasp the concept of soft power – US built an empire on both the military might and diplomatic influence.
It’s funny when they talk about “expense of our taxpayers” and then give handouts and bailouts to corporations robbing average US citizen blind.
They don’t help Americans who pay taxes anyway
He is just another goon and not representing the whole mindset of our country . He is a douche .
So
Eastern europe – nah we don’t want help you because you suck or whatever
Western europe – we don’t want to help you because you below 2%, but if you reach 2% we could count you as Eastern one
Lovely “ally”, if it keep going further in this direction treaties with US would be reliable same way as treaties with russia
European army NOW. Eastern Europe is under threat by the Russians, especially if Ukraine falls.
Putin needs his head bashed in if he even thinks about invading an EU country.
Someone needs to remind these fuckwits which country (and only) who invoked article 5. Then have them check up on losses in Afghanistan per capita, morons.
The most ironic aspect of this Trumpist mindset is that it could actually lead to Europe becoming a systemic rival to the US in the long run. Obviously, this would require a significant amount of cooperation and integration between European countries. But if the Eurozone, with its large internal market, were to join forces and start borrowing collectively (something that was already done during the COVID crisis and is also being proposed for the defense industry), the world would suddenly have an additional reserve currency in the form of the euro. Like there is no scenario the US gains anything by abandoning it’s allies.
Reagan’s spinning corpse will at least get the US very close to their net zero energy target
What the fuck is the point of NATO if they aren’t willing to help a member when its attacked? USA would lose all credibility and no one would take their treaties seriously.
If you thought that Trump’s “We won’t protect you if you don’t pay” didn’t simply mean “We won’t protect you and I don’t care”, you probably have lived under a rock since 2016. It’s one of the oldest methods used by right wing populists: Make something unacceptable sound acceptable by inserting a tolerable exception that you won’t adhere to.
This will massively hurt the US in the long run. Republicans want to have isolationism and no matter how unpopular their candidates are – they will retake the white house, US senate and the house of rep. eventually and they will implement their isolationist ideas.
The thing is: If you look at any country that implemented isolationism – it always lead to a massive decline in standards of living, economic performance and military power. There is literally nothing to gain from isolationism but everything to lose. It is one of the worst political decisions that can be made and the US will eventually do it. It’s quite remarkable how well Chinese and Russian propaganda has worked, how cheap it was and how fast it took over public opinion. Stalin and Chrustchev must be proud of Putin.
Time to restart our nuclear program.