>“We have a huge drug problem as it is. If we are going to decriminalise it, what is the difference between decriminalising it and legalising it? We will have zombies going around, and it will create loads of dealers left, right and centre,” said Mr Lynch.
We should legalize it and monitor it like we do with alcohol, which is an *incredibly* destructive drug.
If by creating dealers he means creating people that run dispensaries, follow the laws and pay taxes, then what’s the issue?
This is just a ramblings of an old man who spent his entire career as a police officer acting as if he has medical knowledge on the issue, when he clearly doesn’t.
>However, Mr Lynch, who also served as a councillor
I’d love to know what party he represented, the article doesn’t mention any party or if he was an Independent.
Edit: turns out he’s FF, no surprise he has no idea about positive social changes.
There are drug dealers everywhere its already a failed system
We (technically) have “zombies” already.
That being said, is a difference between legalising specific drugs (like cannabis) and decriminalising the use of drugs. Legalising cannabis would make it easier to regulate and monitor. Especially given that there would be people running dispensaries, following the law, etc. Going after someone for possessing a bag of cannabis for his or her own use is a bit ridiculous and it’s a waste of time.
Do we not already have plenty zombies around?
Well, the current system isn’t working, maybe a different approach is needed.
We have plenty of zombies already, a lot of them seem to be responsible for making and enforcing laws around drugs.
Wo do definitely need to deal with the overplaying of Zombie alright. Playing it in moderation at the right moment is fine but it’s spiraled into an epidemic.
Former gardai and prison workers really are the thickest shit in the septic tank. Never fail to come out with bullshit statements like this
We have zombies already – those who made a choice to be zombie
Fucking eejit
Absolutely ridiculous statement.
When you work in customer facing roles you start to hate the people who need the most help
When you work with the public it seems to be the same.
He’d rather see the people who made his job harder as villains rather than victims.
He’s the same fool that said this about love/hate
“Love/Hate is doing us no favours. These young lads getting tips off the TV on how to be criminals. It’s ridiculous to see Nidge and the rest of them young fellas portrayed like that
It’s all the drugs and killings that create the sensation and glorification and that’s what we need to change in society.”
Can you imagine the unbareable nanny state we would live under if this gobshite had any more power
Meaning if drugs are decriminalised gards will actually have to do police work …
I see we’ve moved to the absurdity stage of this ongoing argument.
Former for a reason I guess 😂 idiot
Portugal would disagree.
What the fuck does that even mean
Cannot even detect his way into a coherent position. Is the city awash with drugs or is it at risk of being awash with drugs?
He is almost being intentionally simplistic about it.
It won’t be decriminalised without bundled health services for addiction/psychosis/etc. (ya know like how some other countries have done it).
The country is already flooded with drugs of dubious make-up.
Current system is a goldmine for criminals to the point where I am almost suspicious of public figures who are highly vocal about not bringing this in.
Sounds well informed…
Portugal must be like Dawn of the dead.
Hate to break it to you… *Looks at hordes of already zombified people screaming “avyagottwoeurooooformehostel”*
Wow. Future generations will look back at this fuckwittery unable to fathom how people like this dude were allowed to be in positions of authority.
Our drug laws are doing so much harm.
What an idiotic statement.
To be fair you just need to look at any major city in Canada to see how decriminalization of hard drugs absolutely destroys lives and cities.
If we’re talking cannabis I’m all in
Had a lad stumble out on front of my car last night struggling to stand. We already have zombies now we need to help them.
Flesh eating zombies 🤞
Well now that’s odd. When I was living in Canada and talked to bar staff, bar managers, construction workers, accountants, retail workers, heads of media production, taxi drivers, traffic coordinators, police officers, tour guides, waiters, street performers, and preachers about them using cannabis in their free time they all seemed very well put together. So strange.
Edit: And he’s not wrong about dealers popping up. Because while the novelty of going in to a store to buy cannabis was great, the price after tax was painful. I found out later that there was a gray market where people sold their home grown without a license. The absolute horror of visiting a nicely put together website that gave you loyalty points with each order you made that you could use for discounts on future purchases and having them give you free edibles/pre-rolls/papers/grinders with each order and having it delivered directly to your house with your choice of payment and being able to look at the reviews of the different websites from customers so that you could decide which vendor was right for you. Truly a terrible world to live in.
I moved to Canada and, fellas, it’s serious. Just hordes of Weed Zombies (or “Shuffle Demons” as Canadians call them) roaming the streets asking to share your Doritos or insisting you listen to this 20 minute Phish jam. It’s the Eh-pocalypse.
But serious, weed shops are everywhere and society didn’t collapse.
They are terrified of losing the easy number they have had with the war on drugs. The clown is an absolute dinosaur.
Cops in Portugal were also sceptical and are now very happy with the changes.
This would help transform the gardai to a more compassionate force as well.
Open dealing all day everyday on Talbot St, right behind a Garda station.
Clueless comment
To be quite honest we need to be listening to the opinion of sociologists and psychologists who’ve observed decriminalisation in other cities and countries around the world.
The Gardai do a job, but they only see it from the point of view of enforcement. It’s not the whole picture and it’s also very obvious it’s not working.
Is that the case in Portugal?
Or in oregon that allows minimal amounts of coke and heroin?
What would a detective know about it anyway? Unless hes existed in the environment, hes talking out his arse
Is he that ignorant he cant see the financial benefit of state mandated drug supply? Maybe they could afford to pay more guards to do their job properly.
I’ve seen two people fall into the Liffey off their faces on alcohol, but i guess that’s grand.
The head on that lad ‘two pints of bitta matey’.
It was always easier for me to buy illegal drugs as a teenager than legal alcohol.
Legalise and sell through off licensed premises. Make it that selling to minors leads to loosing your license.
Right now your local dealer decides if your kid smokes weed or spice, if there’s any opioid in the weed he sells to your 13/14 year old.
In what reality is that the outcome we want.
Make it that buying weed, ecstasy and mushrooms from the off license and you will close down lots of the social gateway to harder drugs.
Prohibition is part of the problem!
He looks like he skulls pints. Like Bill Hicks said, how dare some cunt with a beer gut tell us what drugs we can or cannot take
Why do we give people a platform on these issues when they are clearly not at all qualified to speak about them?
Don’t get me wrong, it’s fine to have an opinion as a layperson. I’m not an expert on drug policy, I’ve read quite a few studies and I’d say I have a fairly informed opinion but I’m far from being an expert. I still have an opinion and I’m not afraid to argue it. But I’m not arguing it in the newspaper. And honestly if I was, something would have gone terribly wrong.
The idea that some random peeler can adequately judge this issue is completely laughable. They see the worst sides of it in terms of practical outcome, so naturally they’ll have a negative opinion. Yet they rarely to never engage with average drug users who fly under the radar without causing trouble, let alone study policy papers on this issue. They’re not more qualified to speak on substance policy than yer man down the street who smokes a gram of weed a day and keeps banging on about how harmless it is. Then again, that lad isn’t in the papers talking about it.
The thing that drives me crazy about this, is that there is data that demonstrates the best policy. We don’t need to rely on opinions.
Dude thinks current law is stopping people from doing drugs to become a zombie and not the fact that 99% of population has no desire to do drugs like that.
people who want to do drugs don’t care wether it’s legal or not
As opposed to the current system where we already have zombies. Amazing.
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100%. Right move to keep them illegal.
>“We have a huge drug problem as it is. If we are going to decriminalise it, what is the difference between decriminalising it and legalising it? We will have zombies going around, and it will create loads of dealers left, right and centre,” said Mr Lynch.
We should legalize it and monitor it like we do with alcohol, which is an *incredibly* destructive drug.
If by creating dealers he means creating people that run dispensaries, follow the laws and pay taxes, then what’s the issue?
This is just a ramblings of an old man who spent his entire career as a police officer acting as if he has medical knowledge on the issue, when he clearly doesn’t.
>However, Mr Lynch, who also served as a councillor
I’d love to know what party he represented, the article doesn’t mention any party or if he was an Independent.
Edit: turns out he’s FF, no surprise he has no idea about positive social changes.
There are drug dealers everywhere its already a failed system
We (technically) have “zombies” already.
That being said, is a difference between legalising specific drugs (like cannabis) and decriminalising the use of drugs. Legalising cannabis would make it easier to regulate and monitor. Especially given that there would be people running dispensaries, following the law, etc. Going after someone for possessing a bag of cannabis for his or her own use is a bit ridiculous and it’s a waste of time.
Do we not already have plenty zombies around?
Well, the current system isn’t working, maybe a different approach is needed.
We have plenty of zombies already, a lot of them seem to be responsible for making and enforcing laws around drugs.
Wo do definitely need to deal with the overplaying of Zombie alright. Playing it in moderation at the right moment is fine but it’s spiraled into an epidemic.
Former gardai and prison workers really are the thickest shit in the septic tank. Never fail to come out with bullshit statements like this
A lot depends on the execution. Portugal has seen good effects from their drug court system, but the decriminalisation of small quantities of hard drugs in [Portland, Oregon](https://youtu.be/2GU3TGSWPsw?si=l7uGS0DlhGmtEsnw) and [British Columbia, Canada](https://youtu.be/Qwcp2mcOH0Y?si=GAq1gsQeuIgskgO_) seems to have either made little improvement or worsened the problem.
We have zombies already – those who made a choice to be zombie
Fucking eejit
Absolutely ridiculous statement.
When you work in customer facing roles you start to hate the people who need the most help
When you work with the public it seems to be the same.
He’d rather see the people who made his job harder as villains rather than victims.
He’s the same fool that said this about love/hate
“Love/Hate is doing us no favours. These young lads getting tips off the TV on how to be criminals. It’s ridiculous to see Nidge and the rest of them young fellas portrayed like that
It’s all the drugs and killings that create the sensation and glorification and that’s what we need to change in society.”
Can you imagine the unbareable nanny state we would live under if this gobshite had any more power
Meaning if drugs are decriminalised gards will actually have to do police work …
I see we’ve moved to the absurdity stage of this ongoing argument.
Former for a reason I guess 😂 idiot
Portugal would disagree.
What the fuck does that even mean
Cannot even detect his way into a coherent position. Is the city awash with drugs or is it at risk of being awash with drugs?
He is almost being intentionally simplistic about it.
It won’t be decriminalised without bundled health services for addiction/psychosis/etc. (ya know like how some other countries have done it).
The country is already flooded with drugs of dubious make-up.
Current system is a goldmine for criminals to the point where I am almost suspicious of public figures who are highly vocal about not bringing this in.
Sounds well informed…
Portugal must be like Dawn of the dead.
Hate to break it to you… *Looks at hordes of already zombified people screaming “avyagottwoeurooooformehostel”*
Wow. Future generations will look back at this fuckwittery unable to fathom how people like this dude were allowed to be in positions of authority.
Our drug laws are doing so much harm.
What an idiotic statement.
To be fair you just need to look at any major city in Canada to see how decriminalization of hard drugs absolutely destroys lives and cities.
If we’re talking cannabis I’m all in
Had a lad stumble out on front of my car last night struggling to stand. We already have zombies now we need to help them.
Flesh eating zombies 🤞
Well now that’s odd. When I was living in Canada and talked to bar staff, bar managers, construction workers, accountants, retail workers, heads of media production, taxi drivers, traffic coordinators, police officers, tour guides, waiters, street performers, and preachers about them using cannabis in their free time they all seemed very well put together. So strange.
Edit: And he’s not wrong about dealers popping up. Because while the novelty of going in to a store to buy cannabis was great, the price after tax was painful. I found out later that there was a gray market where people sold their home grown without a license. The absolute horror of visiting a nicely put together website that gave you loyalty points with each order you made that you could use for discounts on future purchases and having them give you free edibles/pre-rolls/papers/grinders with each order and having it delivered directly to your house with your choice of payment and being able to look at the reviews of the different websites from customers so that you could decide which vendor was right for you. Truly a terrible world to live in.
I moved to Canada and, fellas, it’s serious. Just hordes of Weed Zombies (or “Shuffle Demons” as Canadians call them) roaming the streets asking to share your Doritos or insisting you listen to this 20 minute Phish jam. It’s the Eh-pocalypse.
But serious, weed shops are everywhere and society didn’t collapse.
They are terrified of losing the easy number they have had with the war on drugs. The clown is an absolute dinosaur.
Cops in Portugal were also sceptical and are now very happy with the changes.
This would help transform the gardai to a more compassionate force as well.
Open dealing all day everyday on Talbot St, right behind a Garda station.
Clueless comment
To be quite honest we need to be listening to the opinion of sociologists and psychologists who’ve observed decriminalisation in other cities and countries around the world.
The Gardai do a job, but they only see it from the point of view of enforcement. It’s not the whole picture and it’s also very obvious it’s not working.
Is that the case in Portugal?
Or in oregon that allows minimal amounts of coke and heroin?
What would a detective know about it anyway? Unless hes existed in the environment, hes talking out his arse
Is he that ignorant he cant see the financial benefit of state mandated drug supply? Maybe they could afford to pay more guards to do their job properly.
I’ve seen two people fall into the Liffey off their faces on alcohol, but i guess that’s grand.
The head on that lad ‘two pints of bitta matey’.
It was always easier for me to buy illegal drugs as a teenager than legal alcohol.
Legalise and sell through off licensed premises. Make it that selling to minors leads to loosing your license.
Right now your local dealer decides if your kid smokes weed or spice, if there’s any opioid in the weed he sells to your 13/14 year old.
In what reality is that the outcome we want.
Make it that buying weed, ecstasy and mushrooms from the off license and you will close down lots of the social gateway to harder drugs.
Prohibition is part of the problem!
He looks like he skulls pints. Like Bill Hicks said, how dare some cunt with a beer gut tell us what drugs we can or cannot take
Why do we give people a platform on these issues when they are clearly not at all qualified to speak about them?
Don’t get me wrong, it’s fine to have an opinion as a layperson. I’m not an expert on drug policy, I’ve read quite a few studies and I’d say I have a fairly informed opinion but I’m far from being an expert. I still have an opinion and I’m not afraid to argue it. But I’m not arguing it in the newspaper. And honestly if I was, something would have gone terribly wrong.
The idea that some random peeler can adequately judge this issue is completely laughable. They see the worst sides of it in terms of practical outcome, so naturally they’ll have a negative opinion. Yet they rarely to never engage with average drug users who fly under the radar without causing trouble, let alone study policy papers on this issue. They’re not more qualified to speak on substance policy than yer man down the street who smokes a gram of weed a day and keeps banging on about how harmless it is. Then again, that lad isn’t in the papers talking about it.
The thing that drives me crazy about this, is that there is data that demonstrates the best policy. We don’t need to rely on opinions.
Dude thinks current law is stopping people from doing drugs to become a zombie and not the fact that 99% of population has no desire to do drugs like that.
people who want to do drugs don’t care wether it’s legal or not
As opposed to the current system where we already have zombies. Amazing.