I mean most countries just straight up cannot afford nukes and those that can already have them or aren’t allowed to have them like Germany due to treaties and why would Germany finance nukes for someone else and give up the control of them to someone that could turn against them one day.
We’re had nearly 20 years of your “realistic” and here we are. Retire already.
Get rid of this necrotic gerontocracy.
So France is not part of the EU now? That’s just stupid. We got nukes.
And all the talk while Russia is preparing to put nuclear heads in space.
I am really tired of these German naysayers.
Now its time to turn up the rhetoric and if not become wholly a nuclear state then become nuclear latent so EU very fast can procure nukes.
You can’t have nuclear weapons without nuclear power.
Biggest weapon that EU can unleashed against their enemies is becoming energy self-sufficent and free from oil imports from from their enemies. EU should not be friendly with dictatorships (Russia, Saudis, Venezuela, Iran and so on..)
Fking increase the conventional weapons production and stop looking for shortcuts. These policans should be sent to front to learn a lesson because it will be the poor and middle class people who will be sent there not these cnts
All the excuses everytime. Cannot, will not, blablabla. They are such a joke. No wonder our enemies challenge us
Short sighted nonsense.
France would disagree. So would the UK, but you know.
The EU couldn’t even use the EU battlegroups because nobody could agree. Nukes would be pointless, too many political issues for very little gain when everyone in the EU is covered anyway under Nato.
Of course it is unrealistic.
EU cannot even implement a single currency or visa regime.
Do you really think EU would be able to just vote when to press the red button?
Sounds like it is time to change the committee. This one is clearly not up to face the changing times.
Whenever you have reactors you have nuclear weapons, they go hand in hand. Not sure why it’s unrealistic
EU is not a country nor a union as USA what the frisking flying fuck is this all about, if you nuke one country that has nukes you will get glassed it is in the code and called MAD
So Nuclear nukes is the ultimate weapon to protect us all? What you think, that someone in France and Uk will press the button to defend Eastern countries? Just to risk human race annihilation. Seriously
Its at the bottom at the list of priorities:
-Coordinate Air, Ground and Naval assets into a “United European Army”
-Create a European Carrier Strike group on par or exeeding the new US Carriers.
-Build a modern Missile Submarine fleet that is Nuklear capable
THEN
-Integrate UK, French and US warheads into a Euroean Nuklear Triad.
How can EU have “nuclear weapons” if EU doe snot even have army to use those nuclear weapons? EU members have army, and those same EU members have nuclear weapons (France?)
turn me into a nuke and send me to Siberia
I guess Germany would be able to construct some nuclear warheads with 300kT for a new Taurus variant within a short time.
But do we want this?
We are not gonna share our nuclear deterrence with countries which have betrayed us and undermined our defence. Reciprocity is the rule and there’s no reason for France to give some of its most important assets for nothing.
We should build a submachine gun that fires nukes then we would be the far greater power, all the world will whisper our names in hushed tones, forever fearful of our sub machine gun that fires nukes.
EU nuclear umbrella is a dumb idea.
How would you distribute and manage the bombs ?
Who gets to pull the trigger what is the command structure ?
What happens when a country does an EU-Exit a la UK ?
Can you imagine the NIMBY mentality regarding stationing ?
We don’t even have an EU-Military, let’s get there first… Or establish the US OF Europe.
Wtf people are actually in favor of EU nuclear weapons program are ye all gone fuckin mad
The heck we don’t need it, we need it.
I dont think anyone should be taking policy tips from Germany on anything for a very long time tbh
What does he mean? The French already have nukes. We just need to buy a bunch of nukes from the French and put them under EU command.
Lmao the rest of European militaries should focus on spending the 2% of gdp before thinking of nukes.
Fuckers can’t spend extra on defense yet now some idiots say the rest of Europe should have nukes too ? Yeah that will turn out pretty fucking well.
There are enough nuclear bombs in France and the UK (vectored by aircraft and submarine) to blow our planet in smithereens. That is more than enough.
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I hope Poland gets some then
I mean most countries just straight up cannot afford nukes and those that can already have them or aren’t allowed to have them like Germany due to treaties and why would Germany finance nukes for someone else and give up the control of them to someone that could turn against them one day.
We’re had nearly 20 years of your “realistic” and here we are. Retire already.
Get rid of this necrotic gerontocracy.
So France is not part of the EU now? That’s just stupid. We got nukes.
And all the talk while Russia is preparing to put nuclear heads in space.
I am really tired of these German naysayers.
Now its time to turn up the rhetoric and if not become wholly a nuclear state then become nuclear latent so EU very fast can procure nukes.
You can’t have nuclear weapons without nuclear power.
Biggest weapon that EU can unleashed against their enemies is becoming energy self-sufficent and free from oil imports from from their enemies. EU should not be friendly with dictatorships (Russia, Saudis, Venezuela, Iran and so on..)
Fking increase the conventional weapons production and stop looking for shortcuts. These policans should be sent to front to learn a lesson because it will be the poor and middle class people who will be sent there not these cnts
All the excuses everytime. Cannot, will not, blablabla. They are such a joke. No wonder our enemies challenge us
Short sighted nonsense.
France would disagree. So would the UK, but you know.
The EU couldn’t even use the EU battlegroups because nobody could agree. Nukes would be pointless, too many political issues for very little gain when everyone in the EU is covered anyway under Nato.
Of course it is unrealistic.
EU cannot even implement a single currency or visa regime.
Do you really think EU would be able to just vote when to press the red button?
Sounds like it is time to change the committee. This one is clearly not up to face the changing times.
Whenever you have reactors you have nuclear weapons, they go hand in hand. Not sure why it’s unrealistic
EU is not a country nor a union as USA what the frisking flying fuck is this all about, if you nuke one country that has nukes you will get glassed it is in the code and called MAD
So Nuclear nukes is the ultimate weapon to protect us all? What you think, that someone in France and Uk will press the button to defend Eastern countries? Just to risk human race annihilation. Seriously
Its at the bottom at the list of priorities:
-Coordinate Air, Ground and Naval assets into a “United European Army”
-Create a European Carrier Strike group on par or exeeding the new US Carriers.
-Build a modern Missile Submarine fleet that is Nuklear capable
THEN
-Integrate UK, French and US warheads into a Euroean Nuklear Triad.
How can EU have “nuclear weapons” if EU doe snot even have army to use those nuclear weapons? EU members have army, and those same EU members have nuclear weapons (France?)
turn me into a nuke and send me to Siberia
I guess Germany would be able to construct some nuclear warheads with 300kT for a new Taurus variant within a short time.
But do we want this?
We are not gonna share our nuclear deterrence with countries which have betrayed us and undermined our defence. Reciprocity is the rule and there’s no reason for France to give some of its most important assets for nothing.
We should build a submachine gun that fires nukes then we would be the far greater power, all the world will whisper our names in hushed tones, forever fearful of our sub machine gun that fires nukes.
EU nuclear umbrella is a dumb idea.
How would you distribute and manage the bombs ?
Who gets to pull the trigger what is the command structure ?
What happens when a country does an EU-Exit a la UK ?
Can you imagine the NIMBY mentality regarding stationing ?
We don’t even have an EU-Military, let’s get there first… Or establish the US OF Europe.
Wtf people are actually in favor of EU nuclear weapons program are ye all gone fuckin mad
The heck we don’t need it, we need it.
I dont think anyone should be taking policy tips from Germany on anything for a very long time tbh
What does he mean? The French already have nukes. We just need to buy a bunch of nukes from the French and put them under EU command.
Lmao the rest of European militaries should focus on spending the 2% of gdp before thinking of nukes.
Fuckers can’t spend extra on defense yet now some idiots say the rest of Europe should have nukes too ? Yeah that will turn out pretty fucking well.
There are enough nuclear bombs in France and the UK (vectored by aircraft and submarine) to blow our planet in smithereens. That is more than enough.