To travel within London we already have a Northern Line, a Great Northern Line, a London Northwestern Line.
I don’t think adding a North London Line would be a good idea.
I feel like there should be a middle ground somewhere between these names and the new actual names.
I think Jubilee and Elizabeth Line broke the mould. It was understandable, but these new ones are puzzling.
I much prefer this list to the latest offerings, about which the less said the better. Brunel Line was suggested for East London recently and I think that would have been popular.
Sadiq khan is a nob. He has destroyed our once great city. Sooner he is gone the better. But I still won’t vote for Karen.
I have to say, these are less confusing. Though needed more wokeness. So I can see why we have obscure references to FREEDOM AND LIBERTY!!!
What is the problem with the current names
No Goblin Line, no sale
Ok I get these are more straightforward but there is nothing wrong with a little bit of creativity.
still Goblin erasure
I prefer the newer names tbh
Still better than the new ones. Just change the northern one.
This is better than what we got.
Like these names better
these are really boring
Nice and boring just as rail line names should be. Beggars belief why they thought the place for representation was fucking overground line names.
i like the way the overground goes all over london and is all the same colour. it makes it feel different from the tube. it’s not that confusing
My brain only works on the colour. I have, in the past, attempted to come up with some kind of mnemonic to remember what line is what colour – and it’s not really worked.
Central is Crimson
Overground is Orange
Circle is Citrus
District – that’s where it fails, I just have to remember it’s green
Waterloo – Aqua
Then you get to Victoria and Piccadilly and it all goes to shit. Victoria isn’t royal blue, and Piccadilly isn’t Purple (because that’s Lizzie).
Met is Maroon
***Ham***mersmith & City is the colour of ham.
Jubilee is gris (French for grey and it rhymes)
Bakerloo is Brown (alliteration)
Northern is Noir
Then TfL goes and adds more and fucks everything up…😜The Liz Line…? Purple…? Aubergines are purple. *Aubergine* rhymes with *queen*… See the problem…?
These make sense, unlike the names a tiny panel of woke City Hall workers decided on.
Updating signs, paperwork, leaflets, maps, websites, but more importantly, all the systems, is expensive.
Especially any core systems that have rigorous change management and governance on them, which I expect anything to do with safety, power, scheduling, signalling, payments etc has.
Every process, guide, directories, filenames, ppts, excels, code, KPI, dashboards etc etc it’s a bloody nightmare. Especially data governance and managing changes to flows of data between systems. Simultaneous change across multiple systems managed by multiple teams and multiple vendors and multiple cost centres? Nightmare. One big megaproject big bang approach? Expensive nightmare.
Lots of costs, lots of resources taken off key projects, lots of impact elsewhere, project managers, steercos and WGs filling up diaries etc
If you don’t do all that you have this mismatch of systems, data, internal references and internal languages (ie how people speak to each other) that just cause issues and problems for years, all are generating further costs. Especially with knowledge transfers, team moves, new + leavers. The old school are using legacy names, the new people using current names, every time they interact or send data or info you introduce risk of mistakes .
Change is not something you do on a whim. Especially in an org the size of TFL.
If rather they allocate their limited funds into something that needs doing. Safety, service, efficiency etc.
No Wasteman line, Tennessee Fried Chicken Line, No Chilli Sauce Boss Line, No Gentrification line. Utter waste, these people know nothing
Fair play Boris, I suppose. Those names would have been silly, aside from the East London line which was already it’s name before the London overground branding.
This makes much more sense, the new ones are outright terrible
Many blinkered folk. in a doomed tailspin at the WOKE names 😂
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To travel within London we already have a Northern Line, a Great Northern Line, a London Northwestern Line.
I don’t think adding a North London Line would be a good idea.
I feel like there should be a middle ground somewhere between these names and the new actual names.
I think Jubilee and Elizabeth Line broke the mould. It was understandable, but these new ones are puzzling.
I much prefer this list to the latest offerings, about which the less said the better. Brunel Line was suggested for East London recently and I think that would have been popular.
Sadiq khan is a nob. He has destroyed our once great city. Sooner he is gone the better. But I still won’t vote for Karen.
I have to say, these are less confusing. Though needed more wokeness. So I can see why we have obscure references to FREEDOM AND LIBERTY!!!
What is the problem with the current names
No Goblin Line, no sale
Ok I get these are more straightforward but there is nothing wrong with a little bit of creativity.
still Goblin erasure
I prefer the newer names tbh
Still better than the new ones. Just change the northern one.
This is better than what we got.
Like these names better
these are really boring
Nice and boring just as rail line names should be. Beggars belief why they thought the place for representation was fucking overground line names.
i like the way the overground goes all over london and is all the same colour. it makes it feel different from the tube. it’s not that confusing
My brain only works on the colour. I have, in the past, attempted to come up with some kind of mnemonic to remember what line is what colour – and it’s not really worked.
Central is Crimson
Overground is Orange
Circle is Citrus
District – that’s where it fails, I just have to remember it’s green
Waterloo – Aqua
Then you get to Victoria and Piccadilly and it all goes to shit. Victoria isn’t royal blue, and Piccadilly isn’t Purple (because that’s Lizzie).
Met is Maroon
***Ham***mersmith & City is the colour of ham.
Jubilee is gris (French for grey and it rhymes)
Bakerloo is Brown (alliteration)
Northern is Noir
Then TfL goes and adds more and fucks everything up…😜The Liz Line…? Purple…? Aubergines are purple. *Aubergine* rhymes with *queen*… See the problem…?
These make sense, unlike the names a tiny panel of woke City Hall workers decided on.
Updating signs, paperwork, leaflets, maps, websites, but more importantly, all the systems, is expensive.
Especially any core systems that have rigorous change management and governance on them, which I expect anything to do with safety, power, scheduling, signalling, payments etc has.
Every process, guide, directories, filenames, ppts, excels, code, KPI, dashboards etc etc it’s a bloody nightmare. Especially data governance and managing changes to flows of data between systems. Simultaneous change across multiple systems managed by multiple teams and multiple vendors and multiple cost centres? Nightmare. One big megaproject big bang approach? Expensive nightmare.
Lots of costs, lots of resources taken off key projects, lots of impact elsewhere, project managers, steercos and WGs filling up diaries etc
If you don’t do all that you have this mismatch of systems, data, internal references and internal languages (ie how people speak to each other) that just cause issues and problems for years, all are generating further costs. Especially with knowledge transfers, team moves, new + leavers. The old school are using legacy names, the new people using current names, every time they interact or send data or info you introduce risk of mistakes .
Change is not something you do on a whim. Especially in an org the size of TFL.
If rather they allocate their limited funds into something that needs doing. Safety, service, efficiency etc.
No Wasteman line, Tennessee Fried Chicken Line, No Chilli Sauce Boss Line, No Gentrification line. Utter waste, these people know nothing
Fair play Boris, I suppose. Those names would have been silly, aside from the East London line which was already it’s name before the London overground branding.
This makes much more sense, the new ones are outright terrible
Many blinkered folk. in a doomed tailspin at the WOKE names 😂