Yes so they could rule the ashes. There is nothing left in that place.
All for a town the size of Poughkeepsie, NY. Now a 29 square kilometre heap of rubble. I hope the tens of thousands of families with a father/son laying dead or crippled in Ukrainian mud feel the price paid in their relative’s blood was worth it.
The russian losses in Avdiivka aren’t important because they are cannon fodder from the poor minority regions.
and putin will do it again..he doesnt care…he wont stop until he is either unable to go on or is stopped….he is all in…even if it would take every last russian to do it
Its the most important town in Ukraine… now they just need to repeat this process a few hundred times and the will conquer all of donbas… and in a few hundred years it will be done.
This time, they had to use their battalion of spetsnaz troops. Putin is out of options, out of tanks and out of hope. By March, he will sue for peace just as the Ukraine spring offensive begins with F-16’s air support.
A new-old copium has dropped.
Whilst I like seeing Russia getting weaker it’s awful thinking that Ukraine probably also lost thousands of men defending the city.
Someone should post this “victory” in wiki under the definition of “pyrrhic victory.”
This is Russian peanuts…
I bet he’s prepared to go to several million. The rationale is once Ukraine is conquered that becomes +40ish million, a win…
This is a fight to the end for Ukraine and we got to pour more resources in
This is such a strange and terrible equilibrium that we observe.
Russia’s leaders don’t care about loss of life as long as they can claim any kind of a win. This is because the source of their power is Putin, and the source of their wealth are Russia’s natural resources. Russians do not elect anyone nor they produce high-value-added products. So losing a few more hundreds of thousands of Russians is really no big deal, from that point of view.
For western countries, a slow-moving war of attrition is a great way to degrade Russian’s military capabilities. At the same time, western powers are working on slowly excluding Russia from global markets in a way that doesn’t create a turmoil or undue stress for allies – and, as you know, if someone is excluded from the market, it creates opportunities for others. On top of that, human losses in Russia will accelerate long-term decay of Russia as a global or even a regional power – look at Russia’s demographic situation. And on top of it all, Ukrainian refuges are moving to western countries and are helping with demography problems there – again, a long-term win for those countries.
As for Ukraine…yeah, it will never be the same. The hope is it will be rebuilt by western countries after the war, but I have some doubts about effectiveness of such plans, given the level of corruption in Ukraine that even the war could not break.
Source: “some Ukrainian whose claims cannot be verified”
Great reporting.
And a shit load of Ukrainians died too. If Ukraine had the artillery rounds and equipment they could have punished the Russian offensive significantly.
Honestly this “yeah, but, they suffered massive losses” is just pathetic flag waving.
We need to help them. We need to support them, and not with propaganda that looks deluded.
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They don’t really care about losing grunts
Yes so they could rule the ashes. There is nothing left in that place.
All for a town the size of Poughkeepsie, NY. Now a 29 square kilometre heap of rubble. I hope the tens of thousands of families with a father/son laying dead or crippled in Ukrainian mud feel the price paid in their relative’s blood was worth it.
The russian losses in Avdiivka aren’t important because they are cannon fodder from the poor minority regions.
and putin will do it again..he doesnt care…he wont stop until he is either unable to go on or is stopped….he is all in…even if it would take every last russian to do it
Its the most important town in Ukraine… now they just need to repeat this process a few hundred times and the will conquer all of donbas… and in a few hundred years it will be done.
This time, they had to use their battalion of spetsnaz troops. Putin is out of options, out of tanks and out of hope. By March, he will sue for peace just as the Ukraine spring offensive begins with F-16’s air support.
A new-old copium has dropped.
Whilst I like seeing Russia getting weaker it’s awful thinking that Ukraine probably also lost thousands of men defending the city.
Someone should post this “victory” in wiki under the definition of “pyrrhic victory.”
This is Russian peanuts…
I bet he’s prepared to go to several million. The rationale is once Ukraine is conquered that becomes +40ish million, a win…
This is a fight to the end for Ukraine and we got to pour more resources in
This is such a strange and terrible equilibrium that we observe.
Russia’s leaders don’t care about loss of life as long as they can claim any kind of a win. This is because the source of their power is Putin, and the source of their wealth are Russia’s natural resources. Russians do not elect anyone nor they produce high-value-added products. So losing a few more hundreds of thousands of Russians is really no big deal, from that point of view.
For western countries, a slow-moving war of attrition is a great way to degrade Russian’s military capabilities. At the same time, western powers are working on slowly excluding Russia from global markets in a way that doesn’t create a turmoil or undue stress for allies – and, as you know, if someone is excluded from the market, it creates opportunities for others. On top of that, human losses in Russia will accelerate long-term decay of Russia as a global or even a regional power – look at Russia’s demographic situation. And on top of it all, Ukrainian refuges are moving to western countries and are helping with demography problems there – again, a long-term win for those countries.
As for Ukraine…yeah, it will never be the same. The hope is it will be rebuilt by western countries after the war, but I have some doubts about effectiveness of such plans, given the level of corruption in Ukraine that even the war could not break.
Source: “some Ukrainian whose claims cannot be verified”
Great reporting.
And a shit load of Ukrainians died too. If Ukraine had the artillery rounds and equipment they could have punished the Russian offensive significantly.
Honestly this “yeah, but, they suffered massive losses” is just pathetic flag waving.
We need to help them. We need to support them, and not with propaganda that looks deluded.