Hopefully will go to a 1000 year low, and stay there, fucking ccp doesn’t even deserve our spit on its shameless face
Good. Decoupling is a smart strategy. They’re the enemy of humanity and freedom worldwide.
This is the way!
Decoupling from china is smart, very smart.
How does that reconcile with articles about German investment in China hitting an ATH of 11.9 billion euros in 2023? Is the US the main source of investments in China?
Good. The CCP is the enemy of everyone except the CCP. Fuck them.
Fixed CCCP to CCP, my bad
Lucky for them they still have their limitless friendship with Russia, to get them through hard times
And it was still not enough.
I hope that Western companies completely stop investing in China because we all realize that China is the biggest threat to democratic countries.
Good, it is not at all a level playing field.
China sends 1000s and 1000s of spies into North American companies (mostly in tech) every year, who gather info, copy research and clone IP to send back to China. I wouldn’t have believe it was so common if I didn’t see it happen at the last big tech company I worked for.
Canada’s Nortel was a particularly bad example of this. They were inflitrated by China-aligned agents, and all the data that was stolen went a long way in making Hauwei the billions-dollar behemoth that it is today, while Nortel is long dead.
And Western companies are permitted to work in China for only as long as it takes for their IP to be stolen so that a Chinese version of the company can be started, at which point the foreign company is then forced to leave the country. And these are not outlier cases, this is regular standard operating procedure.
And how many North Americans or Europeans are hired in China at Chinese companies versus how many Chinese-aligned are hired here? There’s absolutely no contest, no comparison.
The less business done with China the better. Not even to mention how many Chinese products are made by slaves in slave-conditions so bad they have to install nets outside the worker’s dorms to cut down on suicides. Buying Chinese products is supporting slavery, slave systems and ownership of people en masse by a very few rich elite.
It’s amazing what happens when your government threatens other countries and lies about their economic health. China right now has become uninvestable but there’s probably real opportunity there for those with deep pockets.
And people who can invest within the country, they buy Canadian real estate instead
Can’t believe it took this long
Given the coming demographic economic and environmental reckoning that is looming over China it’s likely investing in China seems less safe than it did before
So it’s time to buy soon
Fuck China.
I thought “low investment” would be 100B, not 33B. I guess the high was 344B in 2021 so that’s a whopping 90% drop in 2 years.
For comparison, Canada recieved 30B in the first half of 2023.
wasn’t there a report yesterday that exact opposite was true for specifically German companies investing in China ?
We can leave aside the nationalism and still not be surprised that the trend will be for foreign investment to continue to drop.
1. Other countries are undercutting China in terms of production costs and have been trending this way for years. This, combined with the post COVID realization by many countries that there is benefit to near shoring their supply chains, means their position as the “world’s factory” will be increasingly eroded.
2. They are very clearly heading toward a severe demographic crisis, but unlike Japan or Korea, still have a relatively low GDP per capita.
3. They’ve notoriously overbuilt their infrastructure, which is peachy during sustained rapid growth, but become money pits requiring only increasing maintenance as growth flags.
Good, fuck the Chinese government.
Didn’t Xi say we should just accept China as the new superpower, turns out the US could pull the plug the whole time.
As a Filipino who listens to VHF radio calls at sea from fishing boats, I couldn’t help myself but laugh. I hope the bastards’ economy collapses and their people turn against their CCP masters. It’s the only way to avoid starting WW3 in this side of the world.
Good we should have never coupled in the first place. They were never an honest partner, the relationship was built on greed.
Shitting on the parts of the world that made you rich has consequences. Who knew? Roll out more wolf warriors please, it’s working out wonderfully.
Whoops, Ray Dalio.
This article and title are misleading, they are talking about Chinas NET investment, not Chinas FDI investment, which is increasing. They are trying to make you think it is decreasing, it is not. Many commentators seem to be helping make that happen.
There has to be 0 investment from the west into china.
No surprise. The CCP is extremely unstable and unpredictable. It is high risk investing in Chinese companies not only due to CCP unpredictability but also because there’s literally no rule of law.
**Friendshoring**. The civilized world sacrificed its middle-incomers to bring out of poverty tens of millions of Russians and Chinese and now these two backstabbed the West calling for a New World Order based on autocracy, genocide, and conquest, just like Hitler’s Axis 80 years ago.
Anyone putting money into a country that has been proven time and again to have basically no legal protections for foreign shareholders and can and will take all of their money/assets at the drop of a hat is already a complete fool.
The only surprising thing here is how long it took for people with this much money to start wising up.
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Hopefully will go to a 1000 year low, and stay there, fucking ccp doesn’t even deserve our spit on its shameless face
Good. Decoupling is a smart strategy. They’re the enemy of humanity and freedom worldwide.
This is the way!
Decoupling from china is smart, very smart.
How does that reconcile with articles about German investment in China hitting an ATH of 11.9 billion euros in 2023? Is the US the main source of investments in China?
Good. The CCP is the enemy of everyone except the CCP. Fuck them.
Fixed CCCP to CCP, my bad
Lucky for them they still have their limitless friendship with Russia, to get them through hard times
And it was still not enough.
I hope that Western companies completely stop investing in China because we all realize that China is the biggest threat to democratic countries.
Good, it is not at all a level playing field.
China sends 1000s and 1000s of spies into North American companies (mostly in tech) every year, who gather info, copy research and clone IP to send back to China. I wouldn’t have believe it was so common if I didn’t see it happen at the last big tech company I worked for.
Canada’s Nortel was a particularly bad example of this. They were inflitrated by China-aligned agents, and all the data that was stolen went a long way in making Hauwei the billions-dollar behemoth that it is today, while Nortel is long dead.
And Western companies are permitted to work in China for only as long as it takes for their IP to be stolen so that a Chinese version of the company can be started, at which point the foreign company is then forced to leave the country. And these are not outlier cases, this is regular standard operating procedure.
And how many North Americans or Europeans are hired in China at Chinese companies versus how many Chinese-aligned are hired here? There’s absolutely no contest, no comparison.
The less business done with China the better. Not even to mention how many Chinese products are made by slaves in slave-conditions so bad they have to install nets outside the worker’s dorms to cut down on suicides. Buying Chinese products is supporting slavery, slave systems and ownership of people en masse by a very few rich elite.
It’s amazing what happens when your government threatens other countries and lies about their economic health. China right now has become uninvestable but there’s probably real opportunity there for those with deep pockets.
And people who can invest within the country, they buy Canadian real estate instead
Can’t believe it took this long
Given the coming demographic economic and environmental reckoning that is looming over China it’s likely investing in China seems less safe than it did before
So it’s time to buy soon
Fuck China.
I thought “low investment” would be 100B, not 33B. I guess the high was 344B in 2021 so that’s a whopping 90% drop in 2 years.
For comparison, Canada recieved 30B in the first half of 2023.
wasn’t there a report yesterday that exact opposite was true for specifically German companies investing in China ?
We can leave aside the nationalism and still not be surprised that the trend will be for foreign investment to continue to drop.
1. Other countries are undercutting China in terms of production costs and have been trending this way for years. This, combined with the post COVID realization by many countries that there is benefit to near shoring their supply chains, means their position as the “world’s factory” will be increasingly eroded.
2. They are very clearly heading toward a severe demographic crisis, but unlike Japan or Korea, still have a relatively low GDP per capita.
3. They’ve notoriously overbuilt their infrastructure, which is peachy during sustained rapid growth, but become money pits requiring only increasing maintenance as growth flags.
Good, fuck the Chinese government.
Didn’t Xi say we should just accept China as the new superpower, turns out the US could pull the plug the whole time.
As a Filipino who listens to VHF radio calls at sea from fishing boats, I couldn’t help myself but laugh. I hope the bastards’ economy collapses and their people turn against their CCP masters. It’s the only way to avoid starting WW3 in this side of the world.
Good we should have never coupled in the first place. They were never an honest partner, the relationship was built on greed.
Shitting on the parts of the world that made you rich has consequences. Who knew? Roll out more wolf warriors please, it’s working out wonderfully.
Whoops, Ray Dalio.
This article and title are misleading, they are talking about Chinas NET investment, not Chinas FDI investment, which is increasing. They are trying to make you think it is decreasing, it is not. Many commentators seem to be helping make that happen.
There has to be 0 investment from the west into china.
No surprise. The CCP is extremely unstable and unpredictable. It is high risk investing in Chinese companies not only due to CCP unpredictability but also because there’s literally no rule of law.
**Friendshoring**. The civilized world sacrificed its middle-incomers to bring out of poverty tens of millions of Russians and Chinese and now these two backstabbed the West calling for a New World Order based on autocracy, genocide, and conquest, just like Hitler’s Axis 80 years ago.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/russia-and-china-unveil-a-pact-against-america-and-the-west
Anyone putting money into a country that has been proven time and again to have basically no legal protections for foreign shareholders and can and will take all of their money/assets at the drop of a hat is already a complete fool.
The only surprising thing here is how long it took for people with this much money to start wising up.