The United States wants Ukraine to be a second Afghanistan for Russia.
Joe Biden’s administration is preparing a program of mass support for Ukrainian guerrilla war in case of Russian invasion. Poland will play the role of a background for the resistance movement.
Jedrzej Bielecki
After the failure of diplomatic negotiations in Geneva, Brussels, and Vienna, Washington is beginning to move to a new phase in its relations with Russia: preparations for repelling an attack.
– It is more likely than not that Vladimir Putin will decide to strike. He’s gone so far in his threats that it’s going to be difficult for him to back down empty-handed now, Kurt Volker, the U.S. special envoy to Ukraine under Donald Trump, told Sky News. – This will most likely be a quick, short and brutal strike to seize selected Ukrainian territories, presumably to link the Donbas with Crimea and perhaps Transnistria. What Putin has failed to extract from the West through negotiations, he wants to obtain by the method of accomplished facts, he adds.
These are guarantees that Ukraine will never be admitted to NATO. At the summit in Bucharest in 2008, the alliance declared that the country (together with Georgia) would gain membership, although without giving any dates. However, it is an unwritten rule of the pact that states with open border conflicts are not admitted.
According to Jake Sullivan, Biden’s national security adviser, Moscow is already preparing provocations to justify intervention. Among other things, there is talk in Washington of a scenario in which Russian special forces, posing as Ukrainians, attack Russians in the Donbass, provoking a response from Moscow. Such units would already be in starting positions near the Ukrainian border.
America’s response involves imposing harsh economic sanctions on Moscow and strengthening NATO’s eastern flank. But an increasingly important element of this strategy is also to support combat operations by the Ukrainians themselves. Admittedly, since 2014. The U.S. has provided Kiev with $2.5 billion worth of weapons, but primarily of a defensive nature. This is now set to change. This includes the delivery of Stinger anti-tank small arms, which played a key role in defeating the Russians in Afghanistan in the 1980s. It is this conflict that is to be the model for the warfare that the Americans want to support in Ukraine.
According to the New York Times, the idea would be to create tens of thousands of two-three-man battle groups that would be extremely difficult for the Russians to eliminate. This would make it virtually impossible for Moscow to establish an effective administration in the occupied territories. In such a scenario, Poland, as well as Slovakia and Romania, would play the role of a hinterland where Ukrainian troops would be trained and could be smuggled back into the combat zone. Such an arrangement, however, the U.S. media admit, would mean a return to the Cold War era, this time with Poland in the role of a frontline country. The Russians finally withdrew from Afghanistan on February 15, 1989, just over two years before the final collapse of the Soviet Union.
About a third of Ukrainians say they are ready to “grab their weapons” against the Russian occupier should the Kremlin decide to invade. Civil defense training has also intensified across the country.
Support for Ukrainian guerrilla warfare becomes an even more important part of the U.S. plan as doubts arise about Europe’s solidarity participation in imposing economic sanctions on Russia. German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht declared late last week that “Nord Stream 2 should not be dragged into this conflict.” At the same time, Republicans failed to muster 60 votes in the Senate for the introduction of sanctions right now that would torpedo the launch of the pipeline (the vote ended 55:44 in favor of Republicans, as six Democrats switched to their side).
Victoria Nuland, deputy secretary of state for political affairs, admitted to the Financial Times that the measures the Americans and Europeans will impose will not be “identical. – We are trying to understand the extent to which our allies are exposed to the cost of sanctions, and we are building a package that burdens everyone fairly equally and that everyone will want to implement, the diplomat acknowledged. – I’m not going to dwell on the 18 scenarios. I will just say that we are discussing with our allies about imposing extremely severe costs on Russia if it decides to aggress in any form. In her view, Moscow cannot be immediately held responsible for the cyber attack on Ukrainian state institutions carried out on Friday, but it is part of a series of similar acts of aggression by the Kremlin in the past.
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Maybe we could just make Ukraine a Ukraine for Ukrainians?
Why is this RUSSIAN/Putin PROPAGANDA allowed here??
That of course depends on Russia being willing to occupy Ukraine. I think they’d be more than happy just to break it and leave.
I have no idea what Putin intends or whether it’s too late to back down, but this certainly sounds like the American foreign policy mentality. ‘Oh well, I guess we’ll just start an insurgency like Afghanistan.’ Forget about Russia, how did that go for the USA, let alone for Afghans?
I don’t want my country to be a second Afghanistan
>The United States wants Ukraine to be a second Afghanistan for Russia.
**If** Putin invades
NS2 is key project that allows Russia to invade Ukraine. Thousands of lifes about to perish in the name of economic profit. Germany is complicit in creating this crisis
Why US politicians still live in 80s?
What an awful analogy
So we can expect the Americans to invade Ukraine in about 20 years…
>The United States wants Ukraine to be a second Afghanistan for Russia.
The United Snakes could not beat goatfuckers in cave,what damage could they do to an country with Nuclear Arsenal?
Nothing.
Ah yes sacrifice ukranians by the truckload to satisfy our geopolitical interests. Good guy USA. At least they are being candid about it for once instead of democracy spreading bullshit.
We’d actually like for this backwater Tsarist cockwaffle to take his imperial ambitions elsewhere.
War serves no one here, but after three incursions into neighboring nations with no ramifications, Moscow Machiavelli has talked himself into the foregone conclusion to invade.
So we (collectively) are going to get another Afghanistan, whether we want one or not.
Good. A weakened Russia is a win win for most of the world.
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The United States wants Ukraine to be a second Afghanistan for Russia.
Joe Biden’s administration is preparing a program of mass support for Ukrainian guerrilla war in case of Russian invasion. Poland will play the role of a background for the resistance movement.
Jedrzej Bielecki
After the failure of diplomatic negotiations in Geneva, Brussels, and Vienna, Washington is beginning to move to a new phase in its relations with Russia: preparations for repelling an attack.
– It is more likely than not that Vladimir Putin will decide to strike. He’s gone so far in his threats that it’s going to be difficult for him to back down empty-handed now, Kurt Volker, the U.S. special envoy to Ukraine under Donald Trump, told Sky News. – This will most likely be a quick, short and brutal strike to seize selected Ukrainian territories, presumably to link the Donbas with Crimea and perhaps Transnistria. What Putin has failed to extract from the West through negotiations, he wants to obtain by the method of accomplished facts, he adds.
These are guarantees that Ukraine will never be admitted to NATO. At the summit in Bucharest in 2008, the alliance declared that the country (together with Georgia) would gain membership, although without giving any dates. However, it is an unwritten rule of the pact that states with open border conflicts are not admitted.
According to Jake Sullivan, Biden’s national security adviser, Moscow is already preparing provocations to justify intervention. Among other things, there is talk in Washington of a scenario in which Russian special forces, posing as Ukrainians, attack Russians in the Donbass, provoking a response from Moscow. Such units would already be in starting positions near the Ukrainian border.
America’s response involves imposing harsh economic sanctions on Moscow and strengthening NATO’s eastern flank. But an increasingly important element of this strategy is also to support combat operations by the Ukrainians themselves. Admittedly, since 2014. The U.S. has provided Kiev with $2.5 billion worth of weapons, but primarily of a defensive nature. This is now set to change. This includes the delivery of Stinger anti-tank small arms, which played a key role in defeating the Russians in Afghanistan in the 1980s. It is this conflict that is to be the model for the warfare that the Americans want to support in Ukraine.
According to the New York Times, the idea would be to create tens of thousands of two-three-man battle groups that would be extremely difficult for the Russians to eliminate. This would make it virtually impossible for Moscow to establish an effective administration in the occupied territories. In such a scenario, Poland, as well as Slovakia and Romania, would play the role of a hinterland where Ukrainian troops would be trained and could be smuggled back into the combat zone. Such an arrangement, however, the U.S. media admit, would mean a return to the Cold War era, this time with Poland in the role of a frontline country. The Russians finally withdrew from Afghanistan on February 15, 1989, just over two years before the final collapse of the Soviet Union.
About a third of Ukrainians say they are ready to “grab their weapons” against the Russian occupier should the Kremlin decide to invade. Civil defense training has also intensified across the country.
Support for Ukrainian guerrilla warfare becomes an even more important part of the U.S. plan as doubts arise about Europe’s solidarity participation in imposing economic sanctions on Russia. German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht declared late last week that “Nord Stream 2 should not be dragged into this conflict.” At the same time, Republicans failed to muster 60 votes in the Senate for the introduction of sanctions right now that would torpedo the launch of the pipeline (the vote ended 55:44 in favor of Republicans, as six Democrats switched to their side).
Victoria Nuland, deputy secretary of state for political affairs, admitted to the Financial Times that the measures the Americans and Europeans will impose will not be “identical. – We are trying to understand the extent to which our allies are exposed to the cost of sanctions, and we are building a package that burdens everyone fairly equally and that everyone will want to implement, the diplomat acknowledged. – I’m not going to dwell on the 18 scenarios. I will just say that we are discussing with our allies about imposing extremely severe costs on Russia if it decides to aggress in any form. In her view, Moscow cannot be immediately held responsible for the cyber attack on Ukrainian state institutions carried out on Friday, but it is part of a series of similar acts of aggression by the Kremlin in the past.
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Maybe we could just make Ukraine a Ukraine for Ukrainians?
Why is this RUSSIAN/Putin PROPAGANDA allowed here??
That of course depends on Russia being willing to occupy Ukraine. I think they’d be more than happy just to break it and leave.
I have no idea what Putin intends or whether it’s too late to back down, but this certainly sounds like the American foreign policy mentality. ‘Oh well, I guess we’ll just start an insurgency like Afghanistan.’ Forget about Russia, how did that go for the USA, let alone for Afghans?
I don’t want my country to be a second Afghanistan
>The United States wants Ukraine to be a second Afghanistan for Russia.
**If** Putin invades
NS2 is key project that allows Russia to invade Ukraine. Thousands of lifes about to perish in the name of economic profit. Germany is complicit in creating this crisis
Why US politicians still live in 80s?
What an awful analogy
So we can expect the Americans to invade Ukraine in about 20 years…
>The United States wants Ukraine to be a second Afghanistan for Russia.
The United Snakes could not beat goatfuckers in cave,what damage could they do to an country with Nuclear Arsenal?
Nothing.
Ah yes sacrifice ukranians by the truckload to satisfy our geopolitical interests. Good guy USA. At least they are being candid about it for once instead of democracy spreading bullshit.
We’d actually like for this backwater Tsarist cockwaffle to take his imperial ambitions elsewhere.
War serves no one here, but after three incursions into neighboring nations with no ramifications, Moscow Machiavelli has talked himself into the foregone conclusion to invade.
So we (collectively) are going to get another Afghanistan, whether we want one or not.
Good. A weakened Russia is a win win for most of the world.
They would love.
Will never happen.
Hence the negotiation.
So, who will Stallone pass the torch to?