BREAKING: Keir Starmer is set to order Labour MPs to abstain on the SNP’s ceasefire motion tomorrow – because it accuses Israel of engaging in the ‘collective punishment’ of Palestinians.

by backupJM

43 comments

  1. If they can’t get their amendment selected/ passed, then they will whip to abstain. However, since the government has also put an amendment forward, it is likely Labour’s won’t be selected.

    Starmer’s gripe [reportedly](https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1760006288660955192?s=19) seems to be with this line:

    >…and an end to the collective punishment of the Palestinian people..

  2. Hahahaha. Feck me – that surely is new speed record for Red Tory U-turns. Now, where is the Beeb hardhitting interview with Anas….I am sure it will be tonight where he is door-stepped.

    Unionism is dead in Scotland. The Scottish Electorate will not fall for your lies again.

  3. Ceasefire or war crimes denial shouldn’t be a difficult choice for a former human rights lawyer.

    Anyway, rip BackupJM’s inbox.

  4. well done human rights lawyer on defending the bombing of refugee camps

  5. Really trying to put out that you deserve that Labstain moniker.

  7. Israel are bombing the most densely populated area to ever be bombed whare it’s literally impossible to ensure you don’t kill innocent civilians so they’re not even bothering to try, if that’s not a collective punishment, what is?

  10. This is the man supposed to be the next PM.

    If he can’t handle this – then how on earth is he going to manage then he gets handed the keys to No 10?

    Does he think it will be easier?

    That there will be simpler choices?

    It is situations like this there should be leadership.

  12. Really doing his best to make the next election a tighter race than it should be.

  14. The SNP’s bull-in-a-china-shop approach to diplomacy and matters outside of the motherland is staggering. The “collective punishment” line is needless if one truly cares about getting a ceasefire. It’s inflammatory and not constructive.

    It also makes me deeply uncomfortable that Humza hasn’t done the ststesmanly and decent thing of recusing himself from any involvement on this topic given he (totally understandably, and as anyone in his position would be) is totally incapable of being objective on this issue and has a massive vested interest. No way he hasn’t been feeding Flynn orders on this one.

  17. Abstention is as good as approval of the murder of children and families when the whole point is for a vote of conscience and plea for mercy as this horror happens.

    For a man advocating he is our best hope of proper representation, he is ridding himself of that representation responsibility by taking the cowards way out for nothing more than fear of PR negativity in antisemitism accusation and the spooking of those he needs to charm for patronisation…the right wing press and the tory vote who are, going by the argument, will vote against a ceasefire. If that wasn’t the case then he would be confident the house will still pass the proposal, tory ayes and all.

    It cannot be overstated that a man who can turn his back to mass child murder, cannot be trusted to give a flying fuck about the trivialities in comparison to the dire problems faced by British families and kids.

    Kids are hungry and you want free school meals…I’ll let kids die by bombs, snipers, starvation, so that’s the level of how much I give a damn about your kids.

    As a pretender to the leadership of the British people, Kier Starmer is turning his back on the outreaching hands of thousands of innocents begging for help, turning his back on the will of the people of the UK.

    The man’s a callous coward, can’t hear the screams, can’t hear the pleas by his own party, can’t hear those he represents.

    In the end, he represents no-one and nothing.

  19. He’s been nobbled by ‘Labour Friends For Israel’ and Luke Akhurst, hasn’t he?

  20. > [I understand shadow frontbencher Lisa Nandy briefed Labour MPs on the SNP ceasefire motion today.](https://twitter.com/Taj_Ali1/status/1760047006981230731?t=0EVU6zMEn6JhvLdl4XAGQw&s=19)

    > She reportedly claimed reference to the collective punishment of Palestinians was ‘provocative’ and ‘inflammatory’, apparently linking such language to an increase in racism.

    > She reportedly told Labour MPs that they couldn’t say what is happening in Gaza is in breach of international law. ‘It’s not what we do, that is for courts to decide.’

    > Understand Lisa Nandy also told Lab MPs that even if the Labour Party amendment isn’t selected or fails, they couldn’t support the SNP motion, questioning whether it would make it more likely to get the hostages back and stop the violence. She reportedly claimed that it wouldn’t.

    > Scottish Labour passed a motion just the other day calling for an immediate ceasefire and making references to the collective punishment of Palestinians. Does Lisa Nandy think her Scottish colleagues are using inflammatory language? Are they contributing to a rise in racism?

  21. Amazing how these threads always go one of two ways, often both at the same time.

    On the one hand, you’ve got people trying to say that one side is pure evil and the other is just doing what is necessary in the face of such pure evil (but it varies which side is which).

    On the other hand you’ve got people who seem to think that if we vote to support a ceasefire it will happen, and any sort of objection to that is whoever the thread is about actively advocating for child murder.

    This is a very complex situation. Both sides are fucking mental. The only thing they seem able to agree on is that they want to kill each other. Please can we stop making this one of the biggest political issues in our country, it should not be.

  23. Not that it’s all not a colossal waste of time and taxpayer money, but does the SNP motion call for the immediate release of Hamas hostages?

  24. Sir Gutless Bastard, future Prime Minister of the UK.

    I would almost love it if the Tories voted in favour of the motion and switched up the entire narrative on Labour, who are expecting to just coast into power.

  25. There’s only two types of Keir Starmer: lifeless cardboard cutout, and Tory cunt.

    Tory cunt it’ll be for tomorrow then.

  27. ELI5 what tangible things we expect to occur as a consequence of this vote? Does anyone know if the Bavarian or Catalonian or North Dakotan or Qubecois legislatures have adopted resolutions on the issue without having to look it up? What were the consequences of these?

  28. Said it many times before, that man’s an egotistical psychopath, if he gets in power, we’re all in trouble. Just wish there was someone out there with half a brain.

  29. I hope they have the Bollocks too tell him Bollocks..

  30. Keir Starmer, Tory in disguise! (To the transformer theme tune)

  32. At the end of the day, whether you agree with them or not. What the SNP say doesn’t matter on the international stage. However, as the presumptive future government what Labour say actually does. So Keir has to actually sit down and think about the ramifications of any pronouncement, rather than playing at being a student protest.

  37. If the SNP had been serious about this motion, as opposed to just using it to bash labour, they’d have sat down with labour and agreed a wording and submitted a joint motion.

    And if labour had not been too busy fighting itself it should have jumped at any such opportunity.

  38. Labour are an absolute fucking embarrassment.

    People keep telling me, “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.” This Labour aren’t good – anyone who propagates genocide cannot ever be good.

  40. Well that’s totally reasonable, you wouldn’t want to offend anyone over the wording of a petition to stop murdering people

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