Final nail in the coffin for me. I refuse to vote for a party dead set on continuing this outrageous policy.
This is a transparent bribe for the grey vote. If the concern is really over pensioners in poverty, meanstest it!
Guarenteed triple lock remains a thing until the year I become a pensioner
Well yeah, if you want to win an election, the one thing you _don’t_ do is piss off the largest voting bloc.
Of course it is… no party has the balls for generational fairness.
The elderly are destroying the future of the youth now sadly…
Just because a policy is in a manifesto doesn’t mean they’ll stick to it. I can see this just being Starmer securing votes.
Literally using tax payers money to bribe voters. Shameful
cool. So who’s paying for it, Labour?
Oh, the rest of your voters? Right, right…
I wonder what people here thought when Corbyn attacked May’s plan of scrapping it, and pledged to protect it 💀
It would be nice to give with one hand and take it back with the other. Lower the tax thresholds for pension recipients.
I’m a few years from retirement and I’d happily vote for a party that got rid of this, it is manifestly unfair.
Although I’m lucky enough to have generous private pension arrangements so I can be more cavalier with my attitude to the state pension, it might be a thornier subject for pensioners who have ‘paid in’ to the system for 50 years and only have the state pension to rely on.
I suspect it wouldn’t make a huge difference to the nation’s finances as there will still need to be yearly rises in line with something reasonable so we are likely talking small savings but it would at least appear fairer and perhaps help quash the unhelpful intergenerational warfare mindset that seems to have taken hold.
Once again, Sir Max Headroom playing another game of Simon Says with the Tory party.
Didn’t think I’d be saying this after 2011 but I might just vote Liberal this election. When your political choices are about as diverse as Gen 1 Pokémon games, may as well vote in the least shitty version. Also, I feel like Labour have ruined Bristol from a local council perspective.
Putting money on this being a policy they don’t pull a U-turn on.
If everyone else is having to make massive sacrifices then I think it’s only fair that pensioners pay their share too.
Maybe they should say that instead of guaranteeing the triple lock it will be made contingent on getting the stolen PPE billions back and the perpetrators behind bars, plus council tax bills back to a sensible level.
So they want to guarantee an increase of the woefully inadequate state pension? Seems like something the left will hate.
/s
I understand why, but fuck me this policy should have ended a decade ago.
It’s impoverished millennials and it’ll impoverish Gen Z too.
hmmm, didn’t know the new conservative leader’s name is Keir
They’re not going to vote for you Keir, regardless of how many you pander.
The elderly pensioners, despite everything, are doggedly Tory in the opinion polls and those who aren’t will abandon Labour as soon as the Tories get their act together in opposition.
Let’s have the same policy for automatic increases across the board:
* MPs
* Public Sector Workers (and employees of Serco and co)
* Pensioners
After all, we’re all in it together…
Guess need to keep the boomers happy, easy bribe to huge number of voters.
Favouring boomers yet again. Working people really need to get together and get a similar triple lock on salaries.
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I just don’t get it. labour doesn’t want my vote, that is increasingly clear…wtf is happening?!
If this is a manifesto commitment from Labour, I’ll be spoiling my ballot.
It’s one of the most insane policies we’ve ever had as a country, it’s unsustainable, unfair and just sooooo stupid.
For a party that’s literally begging for people to see it as fiscally responsible, this makes no fiscal sense at all.
We are a key swing seat for the lib dems to unseat the tories. Honestly, at this point, I can’t vote for any of them.
I might become a single issue voter and see what reform have to say on the matter. My guess would be even more generous, if I had to guess.
Isn’t it odd how *fiscal rules* are invoked as a justification to water down or revoke any marginally progressive sounding policy, but as soon as you get to coddling pensioners or locking up more drug users all of a sudden it doesn’t matter any more?
It’s almost as if, and please do contain your shock, these ‘fiscal rules’ are simply an excuse to promote an ideology not all that distinct from the Conservatives.
There goes any hope on the NHS improving. By jove pensioners are effing loaded compared to those that work!
Thank fuck for that. Could you imagine if they didn’t, it’d be plastered everywhere that labour would steal your pension
I am so sick and tired of fogies taking up everything, pulling up the ladder behind them and telling all of us we just need to tighten our belts and work harder while they queue up for artisan bread. Something is going to snap soon.
Welcome new government, same as the old government.
So the Tories pander to the conservative voter base and Labour *also* pander to the conservative voter base.
Can someone pander to me. Pretty please. Let’s build wind farms, battery storage and sell all that free energy to the rest of Europe.
Devil’s advocate: if this avoids pushing older voters towards the Tories that’s surely got to be better than them winning.
As long as pensioners remain the highest voting bloc, this will never change.
More transfer of wealth from millennials to boomers.
I’d not object to this if it was accompanied by a commitment to means-testing the state pension.
I have checked my karma and am braced for the avalanche of downvotes that this comment will trigger.
So Labour are refusing to fix the time bomb? Great.
A pension is just a UBI with a membership age. Everyone should get a UBI, but if not then why do pensioners? Why not just have them use Universal Credit (this would probably be most pensioners) and make that adequate to live off
Unbelieveable, they still want to keep these massive unsustainable gifts to pensioners, already the most well-off generation on average. Fine, if Labour want to keep the triple lock, they will also need to extensively reform planning and completely stop NIMBYs ability to block or delay any infrastructure and housing developments they don’t like. The young generations sacrified 2 years of their lives in lockdown to protect the lives of pensioners, and in return some of these selfish old farts have the gall to protest against building more housing that the working people desperately need.
Once more from the people in the back so I know you were listening..
“You didn’t pay into your own pension, you paid for the people before you to get theirs, you’re not being given the money you paid in, you’re being paid for by the people after you.”
Once again, the working generations paying for a cushy retirement for pensioners in their humongous houses.
There’s no pension for people under 40. The boomers and elder Gen X will outvote millennials until Gen Alpha and below are old enough to outvote them
How much more money do these generations need to steal from their children? Fucking bullshit.
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Final nail in the coffin for me. I refuse to vote for a party dead set on continuing this outrageous policy.
This is a transparent bribe for the grey vote. If the concern is really over pensioners in poverty, meanstest it!
Guarenteed triple lock remains a thing until the year I become a pensioner
Well yeah, if you want to win an election, the one thing you _don’t_ do is piss off the largest voting bloc.
Of course it is… no party has the balls for generational fairness.
The elderly are destroying the future of the youth now sadly…
Just because a policy is in a manifesto doesn’t mean they’ll stick to it. I can see this just being Starmer securing votes.
Literally using tax payers money to bribe voters. Shameful
cool. So who’s paying for it, Labour?
Oh, the rest of your voters? Right, right…
I wonder what people here thought when Corbyn attacked May’s plan of scrapping it, and pledged to protect it 💀
It would be nice to give with one hand and take it back with the other. Lower the tax thresholds for pension recipients.
I’m a few years from retirement and I’d happily vote for a party that got rid of this, it is manifestly unfair.
Although I’m lucky enough to have generous private pension arrangements so I can be more cavalier with my attitude to the state pension, it might be a thornier subject for pensioners who have ‘paid in’ to the system for 50 years and only have the state pension to rely on.
I suspect it wouldn’t make a huge difference to the nation’s finances as there will still need to be yearly rises in line with something reasonable so we are likely talking small savings but it would at least appear fairer and perhaps help quash the unhelpful intergenerational warfare mindset that seems to have taken hold.
Once again, Sir Max Headroom playing another game of Simon Says with the Tory party.
Didn’t think I’d be saying this after 2011 but I might just vote Liberal this election. When your political choices are about as diverse as Gen 1 Pokémon games, may as well vote in the least shitty version. Also, I feel like Labour have ruined Bristol from a local council perspective.
Putting money on this being a policy they don’t pull a U-turn on.
If everyone else is having to make massive sacrifices then I think it’s only fair that pensioners pay their share too.
Maybe they should say that instead of guaranteeing the triple lock it will be made contingent on getting the stolen PPE billions back and the perpetrators behind bars, plus council tax bills back to a sensible level.
So they want to guarantee an increase of the woefully inadequate state pension? Seems like something the left will hate.
/s
I understand why, but fuck me this policy should have ended a decade ago.
It’s impoverished millennials and it’ll impoverish Gen Z too.
hmmm, didn’t know the new conservative leader’s name is Keir
They’re not going to vote for you Keir, regardless of how many you pander.
The elderly pensioners, despite everything, are doggedly Tory in the opinion polls and those who aren’t will abandon Labour as soon as the Tories get their act together in opposition.
Let’s have the same policy for automatic increases across the board:
* MPs
* Public Sector Workers (and employees of Serco and co)
* Pensioners
After all, we’re all in it together…
Guess need to keep the boomers happy, easy bribe to huge number of voters.
Favouring boomers yet again. Working people really need to get together and get a similar triple lock on salaries.
​
I just don’t get it. labour doesn’t want my vote, that is increasingly clear…wtf is happening?!
If this is a manifesto commitment from Labour, I’ll be spoiling my ballot.
It’s one of the most insane policies we’ve ever had as a country, it’s unsustainable, unfair and just sooooo stupid.
For a party that’s literally begging for people to see it as fiscally responsible, this makes no fiscal sense at all.
We are a key swing seat for the lib dems to unseat the tories. Honestly, at this point, I can’t vote for any of them.
I might become a single issue voter and see what reform have to say on the matter. My guess would be even more generous, if I had to guess.
Isn’t it odd how *fiscal rules* are invoked as a justification to water down or revoke any marginally progressive sounding policy, but as soon as you get to coddling pensioners or locking up more drug users all of a sudden it doesn’t matter any more?
It’s almost as if, and please do contain your shock, these ‘fiscal rules’ are simply an excuse to promote an ideology not all that distinct from the Conservatives.
There goes any hope on the NHS improving. By jove pensioners are effing loaded compared to those that work!
Thank fuck for that. Could you imagine if they didn’t, it’d be plastered everywhere that labour would steal your pension
I am so sick and tired of fogies taking up everything, pulling up the ladder behind them and telling all of us we just need to tighten our belts and work harder while they queue up for artisan bread. Something is going to snap soon.
Welcome new government, same as the old government.
So the Tories pander to the conservative voter base and Labour *also* pander to the conservative voter base.
Can someone pander to me. Pretty please. Let’s build wind farms, battery storage and sell all that free energy to the rest of Europe.
Devil’s advocate: if this avoids pushing older voters towards the Tories that’s surely got to be better than them winning.
As long as pensioners remain the highest voting bloc, this will never change.
More transfer of wealth from millennials to boomers.
I’d not object to this if it was accompanied by a commitment to means-testing the state pension.
I have checked my karma and am braced for the avalanche of downvotes that this comment will trigger.
So Labour are refusing to fix the time bomb? Great.
A pension is just a UBI with a membership age. Everyone should get a UBI, but if not then why do pensioners? Why not just have them use Universal Credit (this would probably be most pensioners) and make that adequate to live off
Unbelieveable, they still want to keep these massive unsustainable gifts to pensioners, already the most well-off generation on average. Fine, if Labour want to keep the triple lock, they will also need to extensively reform planning and completely stop NIMBYs ability to block or delay any infrastructure and housing developments they don’t like. The young generations sacrified 2 years of their lives in lockdown to protect the lives of pensioners, and in return some of these selfish old farts have the gall to protest against building more housing that the working people desperately need.
Once more from the people in the back so I know you were listening..
“You didn’t pay into your own pension, you paid for the people before you to get theirs, you’re not being given the money you paid in, you’re being paid for by the people after you.”
Once again, the working generations paying for a cushy retirement for pensioners in their humongous houses.
There’s no pension for people under 40. The boomers and elder Gen X will outvote millennials until Gen Alpha and below are old enough to outvote them
How much more money do these generations need to steal from their children? Fucking bullshit.