Running the Bakerloo Line down the Old Kent Road would radically improve a big pie-slice of southeast London. Taking it all the way to Catford would be even better.
That would require some level of ambition from central government, which seems to be in short supply…see HS2
Clay may no longer be an excuse, but the fact TFL doesn’t have the money and that central government funding would be met with opposition from basically the rest of the country makes it just as unlikely
Certainly needed to improve the poor public transport in south london.
I’ve heard people saying this for as long as I can remember.
Presumably this article is aimed at Rishi Sunak? Because nobody reading this outside of the Tories will disagree, and the only reason the tunnels aren’t already being dug is politics. This thing will easily pay for itself and then some, same as all of the other crucial infrastructure investments TfL has ready to push forward as soon as they’re allowed (like rebuilding Camden Town and splitting the Northern line, or extending the DLR and Overground out east across the Thames).
Hell, Crossrail 2’s tunnels should have started being dug out as soon as CR1’s were complete, but nope – better to let all those people who learned how to dig a tunnel under London (from the guys in the hard hats up to the management) split up and go find work elsewhere, often abroad, because the UK refuses to maintain an appropriate long-term, sustainable approach to infrastructure investment that keeps costs lower and projects quicker to complete from start-to-finish.
Would be useful, especially as they are building so many new flats so will be a lot more people in the area. How much would this affect rental prices?
This article feels like something a student would write in protest of the Union not serving gluten free options. No facts or figures, lots of broad stroke statements and very little substance.
Everyone is aware of the history and I don’t think the majority of Londoners are against a tube extension south of the river, however this article is light on any detail, a persuasive argument or quality.
This should go to Bromley North via Lewisham on the Grove Park line. Stop the southeastern 2 mile shuttle and give the station to TfL to use as an underground terminus.
I live near the Old Kent Road and honestly I don’t miss the tube. The bus service is really, really good.
They’ve been attempting to extend the line south to camberwell for 90 years. I doubt it will be done before the trains and signals are updated, given the state of the existing line.
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Running the Bakerloo Line down the Old Kent Road would radically improve a big pie-slice of southeast London. Taking it all the way to Catford would be even better.
That would require some level of ambition from central government, which seems to be in short supply…see HS2
Clay may no longer be an excuse, but the fact TFL doesn’t have the money and that central government funding would be met with opposition from basically the rest of the country makes it just as unlikely
Certainly needed to improve the poor public transport in south london.
I’ve heard people saying this for as long as I can remember.
Wish they run one of the tube lines to Croydon
A consortium of London boroughs are calling for the extension. I suppose we’ll have to wait to see if the incoming Labour central Government makes it possible. https://www.cityam.com/cut-travel-times-from-old-kent-road-to-oxford-circus-from-38-to-13-minutes-replace-bakerloo-lines-rickety-old-trains/
Presumably this article is aimed at Rishi Sunak? Because nobody reading this outside of the Tories will disagree, and the only reason the tunnels aren’t already being dug is politics. This thing will easily pay for itself and then some, same as all of the other crucial infrastructure investments TfL has ready to push forward as soon as they’re allowed (like rebuilding Camden Town and splitting the Northern line, or extending the DLR and Overground out east across the Thames).
Hell, Crossrail 2’s tunnels should have started being dug out as soon as CR1’s were complete, but nope – better to let all those people who learned how to dig a tunnel under London (from the guys in the hard hats up to the management) split up and go find work elsewhere, often abroad, because the UK refuses to maintain an appropriate long-term, sustainable approach to infrastructure investment that keeps costs lower and projects quicker to complete from start-to-finish.
Would be useful, especially as they are building so many new flats so will be a lot more people in the area. How much would this affect rental prices?
This article feels like something a student would write in protest of the Union not serving gluten free options. No facts or figures, lots of broad stroke statements and very little substance.
Everyone is aware of the history and I don’t think the majority of Londoners are against a tube extension south of the river, however this article is light on any detail, a persuasive argument or quality.
This should go to Bromley North via Lewisham on the Grove Park line. Stop the southeastern 2 mile shuttle and give the station to TfL to use as an underground terminus.
I live near the Old Kent Road and honestly I don’t miss the tube. The bus service is really, really good.
They’ve been attempting to extend the line south to camberwell for 90 years. I doubt it will be done before the trains and signals are updated, given the state of the existing line.