Celebrity Big Brother launching in a few weeks. Coincidence? I hope not.
She won’t be meaningfully able to fight her appeal
OK can she come back and fight her appeal
No
Why does she get a special opportunity for all this but none of the teenage boys who were manipulated by others to runaway and join IS do there have been some who wanted to come back with “regrets” joining IS but were denied and no one cared.
Just because shes a woman doesn’t mean shes any different to the rest. She chose to leave. Let her deal with those consequences.
If she ever does somehow come back she better serve prison for being a member of a terrorist group.
I guess the find out stage is much longer than she anticipated.
I hope they don’t let her back in, if at least for nothing else but to set an example.
Seeing some of her interviews would suggest she is a little unhinged, and ultimately not someone who you would be comfortable living beside giving her past delusions.
Albeit young at the time, she chose to travel, engage, and join with a organisation whose methods and practices are utterly medieval.
Ultimately I still maintain that she is the responsibility of the UK and should be allowed back to the UK to stand trial for the crimes of which she is accused.
Cannot say I am massively comfortable with the state removing our citizenship without any meaningful due process.
She should be seen as a British citizen until a court can determine her guilt and we apply sentencing guidelines based on her guilt.
I mean she’s obviously alive and well wherever she currently is, why does she need to come back here anymore.
This whole thing never sat right with me. In most circumstances it’s agreed that a 15 year old who is groomed into running away with an adult is a victim. It REALLY doesn’t sit right with me that the government used this case to establish their unilateral power to strip you of citizenship without trial.
She’s in the news once a month I’m sure, constant appeals. She should become a Christian.
Love her cool “I’ve ditched the burkha and now I’m a totally cool western chick” hat and singlet
Imagine if she is allowed back. She might actually face some jail time, but once that is done, she will become a notorious celebrity figure for terrorists, terrorism and their sympathisers.
It’ll be a very short timeframe before she’s on Al Jazeera, spouting her hatred and laughing down the camera lens saying ‘I’m here now and there’s nothing you can do about it’.
Removing her citizenship is stupid. We would be fuming if Syrian terrorists came to the UK and we couldn’t send them back to Syria because citizenship was removed. Shamima was radicalised in the UK, we can’t just export terrorists and then wash our hands, any country that does is morally bankrupt.
At the same time, I’ve never seen any indication Syria does not want to be the one to carry out the trial for Shamima Begum. She is in a detention facility, not a refugee camp. Unless Syria say they don’t want her to stand trial there, I think everyone is jumping the gun in saying she must face British justice system.
20 years work for the Red Cross. She’ll be given food and shelter, the rights of a UK citizen without the right to return, until the time is up and then reviewed. If she wants to make a difference, prove it.
If you want people who promoted beheading, rapes and savagery to be your neighbour that’s fine.
Most of us don’t.
She’s not *just* a “runaway IS bride”.
She was an IS member and terrorist in her own right.
I can’t help but think if this happened to a white middle class girl they would be welcomed back without question. She was trafficked as a child surely that’s the most important thing here. It’s absurd to think she poses any real threat to anyone.
What’s up with her Bangladesh citizenship. Is it similar to how China works in that they consider you to be a Chinese national even if you are born abroad to parents that are still Chinese nationals. I’ve technically never gone back to officially renouncing my Chinese nationality….
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I thought this argument was closed a long time ago?
She has a really annoying face. Like Cliff Richard levels of punch-able.
It would be an insult to people of this country if she were allowed back.
She can Fuck right off. And when she has fucked off, she can fuck off some more. And then keep on fucking off until she has fucked off as far as she can. And then fuck off some more.
She’s only getting the appeal as her lawyer says she hasn’t had a fair trial and was trafficked (in lamens terms)
Uhmm no she wasn’t trafficked, she went of her own volition.
Terrorists and their supporters should not be allowed to appeal for their right to have citizenship restored when they purposely go out of the way to harm the country they are from.
Fuck off.
May as well, we let everyone else in. What’s another match on the fire.
Regardless if she comes back or not, her life here will be not the best back in the UK, for sure. She is now known as a terrorist, which will imply in difficulties/bullying when going anywhere. People will behave differently towards her
I’d be happy for her to go to prison I’d be okay with her being deported, but I think that people deserve a trial.
I’m sorry but how is the argument that “she was groomed” into becoming a radical Islamist a good excuse to let her back to the UK?
Surely you could say most terrorists are “groomed” into it? Is this just a euphemistic way of saying radicalised because she’s a woman?
Why are the news still pedalling this weirdo? It’s been years now
I don’t understand this subreddit.
Every other post is laughing at how bad our justice system is.
But with this girl everyone thinks she should come back, get a tax paid prison cell and for some reason think she’ll face any sort of justice or repercussions.
Our country is shit, and some of you are to blame.
She deserves to rot where she is.
The amount of people in these comment’s trying to defend her is actually disgusting and makes me ashamed to be British, how sad must your life be to actually care about a fucking TERRORIST, shes lucky she hasn’t received a bullet in the skull which is what she deserves.
If she is allowed back to the UK, she will be the “glamour model” for terrorism. Is this what the UK wants?
Should she be punished here for joining a terrorist group? Yes but what evidence do we actually have to say 100% that she left the UK for that reason? None. She could argue that she left to join her boyfriend, he then forced her to join IS. Then she will be let off. Even then she can use the excuse that she was groomed, to which some peoples views on this sub means she holds no responsibility for her actions. I’m sure these same people think that if someone joins a gang and then murders somoene, then it’s not their fault because they will have been groomed. End of the day she was old enough to know IS group is bad.
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Personally I think she knew exactly what she was doing, found out that life is shit over there. Now wants back because well it’s not all sunshine and unicorns.
you know how mental it is that the US under Trump took back their ISIS fighters.
And we’re made a handful of people a story for years over our refusal to do the same.
How many fucking times is she gonna be able to get a decision!! She said stay and there and fucking rot!
Sure is a lot of terrorist sympathisers in here.
If she comes back she won’t receive any punishment with our current justice system.
“They had three children – a one-year-old girl, a three-month-old boy and a newborn son – who all died from malnourishment or disease.”
The isis dream～
Plenty of British citizens gleefully taking part in a genocide in Gaza and can come back without any issues, I don’t see a problem here.
Cue the “shes just a child who made a mistake” brigade.
I find this strange. WE created this monster, WE didn’t stop her. She is OUR problem. Why is she the responsibility of any other country?
I’m sick to death of hearing about this lying manipulative bitch.
It’s a disgrace how much media attention she is getting. The right decision was made before and that should have been the end of it.
The crocodile tears and removing the hijab are all just optics. I don’t even care if she’s serious, your actions need to have consequences. Letting her back in is not just about her, it sets a precedent and makes the UK look lax on terrorism.
She will be allowed back.
She will arrive and then set about being a yooootube “Influencer”
She will make millions and then leave the country to spend that money elsewhere.
It will cost the UK fortunes for this to happen.
This is the modern world.
If she returns, she should be arrested for war crimes.
The only reason she should be allowed back in the UK is to be sent to jail for terrorism.
You can’t just feign ignorance and innocence if you join ISIS lol
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Celebrity Big Brother launching in a few weeks. Coincidence? I hope not.
She won’t be meaningfully able to fight her appeal
OK can she come back and fight her appeal
No
Why does she get a special opportunity for all this but none of the teenage boys who were manipulated by others to runaway and join IS do there have been some who wanted to come back with “regrets” joining IS but were denied and no one cared.
Just because shes a woman doesn’t mean shes any different to the rest. She chose to leave. Let her deal with those consequences.
If she ever does somehow come back she better serve prison for being a member of a terrorist group.
I guess the find out stage is much longer than she anticipated.
I hope they don’t let her back in, if at least for nothing else but to set an example.
Seeing some of her interviews would suggest she is a little unhinged, and ultimately not someone who you would be comfortable living beside giving her past delusions.
Albeit young at the time, she chose to travel, engage, and join with a organisation whose methods and practices are utterly medieval.
Ultimately I still maintain that she is the responsibility of the UK and should be allowed back to the UK to stand trial for the crimes of which she is accused.
Cannot say I am massively comfortable with the state removing our citizenship without any meaningful due process.
She should be seen as a British citizen until a court can determine her guilt and we apply sentencing guidelines based on her guilt.
I mean she’s obviously alive and well wherever she currently is, why does she need to come back here anymore.
This whole thing never sat right with me. In most circumstances it’s agreed that a 15 year old who is groomed into running away with an adult is a victim. It REALLY doesn’t sit right with me that the government used this case to establish their unilateral power to strip you of citizenship without trial.
She’s in the news once a month I’m sure, constant appeals. She should become a Christian.
Love her cool “I’ve ditched the burkha and now I’m a totally cool western chick” hat and singlet
Imagine if she is allowed back. She might actually face some jail time, but once that is done, she will become a notorious celebrity figure for terrorists, terrorism and their sympathisers.
It’ll be a very short timeframe before she’s on Al Jazeera, spouting her hatred and laughing down the camera lens saying ‘I’m here now and there’s nothing you can do about it’.
Removing her citizenship is stupid. We would be fuming if Syrian terrorists came to the UK and we couldn’t send them back to Syria because citizenship was removed. Shamima was radicalised in the UK, we can’t just export terrorists and then wash our hands, any country that does is morally bankrupt.
At the same time, I’ve never seen any indication Syria does not want to be the one to carry out the trial for Shamima Begum. She is in a detention facility, not a refugee camp. Unless Syria say they don’t want her to stand trial there, I think everyone is jumping the gun in saying she must face British justice system.
20 years work for the Red Cross. She’ll be given food and shelter, the rights of a UK citizen without the right to return, until the time is up and then reviewed. If she wants to make a difference, prove it.
If you want people who promoted beheading, rapes and savagery to be your neighbour that’s fine.
Most of us don’t.
She’s not *just* a “runaway IS bride”.
She was an IS member and terrorist in her own right.
I can’t help but think if this happened to a white middle class girl they would be welcomed back without question. She was trafficked as a child surely that’s the most important thing here. It’s absurd to think she poses any real threat to anyone.
What’s up with her Bangladesh citizenship. Is it similar to how China works in that they consider you to be a Chinese national even if you are born abroad to parents that are still Chinese nationals. I’ve technically never gone back to officially renouncing my Chinese nationality….
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I thought this argument was closed a long time ago?
She has a really annoying face. Like Cliff Richard levels of punch-able.
It would be an insult to people of this country if she were allowed back.
She can Fuck right off. And when she has fucked off, she can fuck off some more. And then keep on fucking off until she has fucked off as far as she can. And then fuck off some more.
She’s only getting the appeal as her lawyer says she hasn’t had a fair trial and was trafficked (in lamens terms)
Uhmm no she wasn’t trafficked, she went of her own volition.
Terrorists and their supporters should not be allowed to appeal for their right to have citizenship restored when they purposely go out of the way to harm the country they are from.
Fuck off.
May as well, we let everyone else in. What’s another match on the fire.
Regardless if she comes back or not, her life here will be not the best back in the UK, for sure. She is now known as a terrorist, which will imply in difficulties/bullying when going anywhere. People will behave differently towards her
I’d be happy for her to go to prison I’d be okay with her being deported, but I think that people deserve a trial.
I’m sorry but how is the argument that “she was groomed” into becoming a radical Islamist a good excuse to let her back to the UK?
Surely you could say most terrorists are “groomed” into it? Is this just a euphemistic way of saying radicalised because she’s a woman?
Why are the news still pedalling this weirdo? It’s been years now
I don’t understand this subreddit.
Every other post is laughing at how bad our justice system is.
But with this girl everyone thinks she should come back, get a tax paid prison cell and for some reason think she’ll face any sort of justice or repercussions.
Our country is shit, and some of you are to blame.
She deserves to rot where she is.
The amount of people in these comment’s trying to defend her is actually disgusting and makes me ashamed to be British, how sad must your life be to actually care about a fucking TERRORIST, shes lucky she hasn’t received a bullet in the skull which is what she deserves.
If she is allowed back to the UK, she will be the “glamour model” for terrorism. Is this what the UK wants?
Should she be punished here for joining a terrorist group? Yes but what evidence do we actually have to say 100% that she left the UK for that reason? None. She could argue that she left to join her boyfriend, he then forced her to join IS. Then she will be let off. Even then she can use the excuse that she was groomed, to which some peoples views on this sub means she holds no responsibility for her actions. I’m sure these same people think that if someone joins a gang and then murders somoene, then it’s not their fault because they will have been groomed. End of the day she was old enough to know IS group is bad.
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Personally I think she knew exactly what she was doing, found out that life is shit over there. Now wants back because well it’s not all sunshine and unicorns.
you know how mental it is that the US under Trump took back their ISIS fighters.
And we’re made a handful of people a story for years over our refusal to do the same.
How many fucking times is she gonna be able to get a decision!! She said stay and there and fucking rot!
Sure is a lot of terrorist sympathisers in here.
If she comes back she won’t receive any punishment with our current justice system.
“They had three children – a one-year-old girl, a three-month-old boy and a newborn son – who all died from malnourishment or disease.”
The isis dream～
Plenty of British citizens gleefully taking part in a genocide in Gaza and can come back without any issues, I don’t see a problem here.
Cue the “shes just a child who made a mistake” brigade.
I find this strange. WE created this monster, WE didn’t stop her. She is OUR problem. Why is she the responsibility of any other country?
I’m sick to death of hearing about this lying manipulative bitch.
It’s a disgrace how much media attention she is getting. The right decision was made before and that should have been the end of it.
The crocodile tears and removing the hijab are all just optics. I don’t even care if she’s serious, your actions need to have consequences. Letting her back in is not just about her, it sets a precedent and makes the UK look lax on terrorism.
She will be allowed back.
She will arrive and then set about being a yooootube “Influencer”
She will make millions and then leave the country to spend that money elsewhere.
It will cost the UK fortunes for this to happen.
This is the modern world.
If she returns, she should be arrested for war crimes.
The only reason she should be allowed back in the UK is to be sent to jail for terrorism.
You can’t just feign ignorance and innocence if you join ISIS lol