yes,2020 record low was affected by Corona,but the trend continued in 2021 as well
>**The number of people who died in traffic accidents in Germany is expected to reach a new all-time low in 2021. According to estimates of the Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) based on data available for the period January to September 2021, the number of traffic accident fatalities is expected to decrease to 2,450.**
all I’m seeing is that 50 km/h kills! /s
I guess it would be pretty hard to actually track technological safety enhancements because they tend up to show in premium models before it slowly trickles down before being made mandatory.
Imagine the 1960s: Cars without seatbealts, head restraints, and ABS. Instead, you got to drive as fast as you pleased or your car could go, and you could be legally drunk while driving.
Cars are a lot safer now than they used to be: there are more accidents (a big reason for that is there are simply more cars on the road, and mobile phones have been implicated as well), but thanks to things like seatbelts, airbags and crumple zones, they’re much less likely to result in fatalities.
Question for older Germans. Was it easier to get a German drivers license in 70’s? I know today it is expensive and testing is harder than US. Just wondering if the average German driver is better skilled than 50 years ago. I agree with other posters that this is primarily better car safety features. Also, tire technology has made driving at high speeds more safe today
If the trend continues people will be born in traffic accidents.
Does this include non-motorist fatalities (pedestrians, cyclists)?
That’s the proof. Tempo limits inside towns are a risk for hal life
Driving in Germany was the BEST! People actually keep right. I drove there for years and then came back to the US. People pass on the right so much here.. I am so scared of driving here bc no one follows the rules.
People in the US think the autobahn has no rules. But instead it’s like, “Have fun! But also here are some rules to be smart and safe!” The whole system makes so much sense to me.
And also in Germany if I didn’t want to use my car, I didn’t have to…
I wonder as well about drinking ages. In the US kids can drive WELL before than can legally drink. So basically we have a bunch of drunk minors riding around where as in Germany you are maybe past this wreckless phase of alcohol novelty before you get your license (??).
Interesting how a 50 km/h drastically increased fatalities but a 100 kmh limit lowered them.
Joking of course, the posted “legal amendments” dont add any value to this chart other than to confuse the viewer.
The people saying this all has to do with safer cars,
then why are pedestrian and cycling fatalities trending downwards too? If it were just the cars wouldn’t the trends be like in the US with lowering motorist fatalities, but increasing pedestrian fatalities?
The trend would go down if there was a forced seperation between bike paths and streets.
It would be nice to see the changes in cars marked on this chart, as opposed to legal changes. I suspect for example that the prevalence of seat belts is a much better corollary to reduced fatalities than is the introduction of a law that mandates their use.
This is amazing
This chart makes it look like the 100km/h speed limit was the only law that actually had an immediate positive impact. And the suggested 130km/h even implies a short-term negative impact. I understand that you cannot draw clear conclusions from just the graph, but someone please humour me here. My feel is that new technology rather than laws made things better (with exceptions). Any opinions?
I’ve heard that most of those victims wore a seatbelt. Makes you wonder if seatbelts are even helping or should we stop wearing them?
/s
Interesting to see that rise right around the time of reunification.
So i once watched an old documentary about an even older documentary that was made when cats just got kinda safe.
It was a massive fight to make crosswalks usable and to get people to wear a seatbelt. It’s so funny seeing their reactions to “introducing a seatbelt”, how dare they strap me to my seat!
As someone who moved to NL and who is advocating for a speed limit on the Autobahn, being reminded of the fact that you can go **one hundred** kph on a Landstraße is shocking.
As someone who nearly lost a sister when she tried to cross a road to get to a bus stop used by school buses, who then got hit by a car going 110kph, I’d accept a quid-pro-quo: lower road speed limits to 80kph, and keep your damn Autobahn insanity.
This isn’t car accidents, it’s overall road traffic accidents (see also “obligation to wear crash helmets – no such thing for cars, this is for motorbikes). This also includes cyclists and pedestrians killed by cars, motorcycles or bicycles.
Driver training in Deutschland is extensive.
The numbers are way down, so time to lift all these legal restrictions, because freedom!!!11
Damn, almost seems like its unneccessary to limit the speedlimit on all autobahnen, because cars are just safer and most accidents happen in the city with bumper to bumper traffic
The vehicle saftey features to include in the graph as well would be interesting
Why does the Statistisches Bundesamt make such a visually misleading graph? Affixing the unrelated legal amendments to the curve of traffic deaths. Not saying they do not have impact but it’s probably not as related as it is shown. Vehicular technology like ABS, better crunch zones, airbags, better tires etc. all may have had just as much impact. The immediate statement of the graph is deceptive.
Would have loved to see actual innovations in car technique on that graph, too. Now it looks somewhat like it was all politics that reduced the fatalities.
Cars are also increasingly safe. They absorb better impacts, they have more safety measures (like ABS) and this combined with those measures had a huge impact.
Not suggesting a causal relationship, but the correlation is interesting.
> The Lead-in Petrol Act, implemented to reduce air lead pollution by leaded gasoline, took effect in Germany in 1971. Main contents of this law were the reduction of lead content in gasoline proceeding to the ban of leaded gasoline as such.
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source:[https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2021/12/PE21_571_46241.html;jsessionid=4CED6DECF4932CC6C20A5E90863EC174.live722](https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2021/12/PE21_571_46241.html;jsessionid=4CED6DECF4932CC6C20A5E90863EC174.live722)
yes,2020 record low was affected by Corona,but the trend continued in 2021 as well
>**The number of people who died in traffic accidents in Germany is expected to reach a new all-time low in 2021. According to estimates of the Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) based on data available for the period January to September 2021, the number of traffic accident fatalities is expected to decrease to 2,450.**
all I’m seeing is that 50 km/h kills! /s
I guess it would be pretty hard to actually track technological safety enhancements because they tend up to show in premium models before it slowly trickles down before being made mandatory.
Imagine the 1960s: Cars without seatbealts, head restraints, and ABS. Instead, you got to drive as fast as you pleased or your car could go, and you could be legally drunk while driving.
Cars are a lot safer now than they used to be: there are more accidents (a big reason for that is there are simply more cars on the road, and mobile phones have been implicated as well), but thanks to things like seatbelts, airbags and crumple zones, they’re much less likely to result in fatalities.
Question for older Germans. Was it easier to get a German drivers license in 70’s? I know today it is expensive and testing is harder than US. Just wondering if the average German driver is better skilled than 50 years ago. I agree with other posters that this is primarily better car safety features. Also, tire technology has made driving at high speeds more safe today
If the trend continues people will be born in traffic accidents.
Does this include non-motorist fatalities (pedestrians, cyclists)?
That’s the proof. Tempo limits inside towns are a risk for hal life
Driving in Germany was the BEST! People actually keep right. I drove there for years and then came back to the US. People pass on the right so much here.. I am so scared of driving here bc no one follows the rules.
People in the US think the autobahn has no rules. But instead it’s like, “Have fun! But also here are some rules to be smart and safe!” The whole system makes so much sense to me.
And also in Germany if I didn’t want to use my car, I didn’t have to…
I wonder as well about drinking ages. In the US kids can drive WELL before than can legally drink. So basically we have a bunch of drunk minors riding around where as in Germany you are maybe past this wreckless phase of alcohol novelty before you get your license (??).
Interesting how a 50 km/h drastically increased fatalities but a 100 kmh limit lowered them.
Joking of course, the posted “legal amendments” dont add any value to this chart other than to confuse the viewer.
The people saying this all has to do with safer cars,
then why are pedestrian and cycling fatalities trending downwards too? If it were just the cars wouldn’t the trends be like in the US with lowering motorist fatalities, but increasing pedestrian fatalities?
The trend would go down if there was a forced seperation between bike paths and streets.
It would be nice to see the changes in cars marked on this chart, as opposed to legal changes. I suspect for example that the prevalence of seat belts is a much better corollary to reduced fatalities than is the introduction of a law that mandates their use.
This is amazing
This chart makes it look like the 100km/h speed limit was the only law that actually had an immediate positive impact. And the suggested 130km/h even implies a short-term negative impact. I understand that you cannot draw clear conclusions from just the graph, but someone please humour me here. My feel is that new technology rather than laws made things better (with exceptions). Any opinions?
I’ve heard that most of those victims wore a seatbelt. Makes you wonder if seatbelts are even helping or should we stop wearing them?
/s
Interesting to see that rise right around the time of reunification.
So i once watched an old documentary about an even older documentary that was made when cats just got kinda safe.
It was a massive fight to make crosswalks usable and to get people to wear a seatbelt. It’s so funny seeing their reactions to “introducing a seatbelt”, how dare they strap me to my seat!
As someone who moved to NL and who is advocating for a speed limit on the Autobahn, being reminded of the fact that you can go **one hundred** kph on a Landstraße is shocking.
As someone who nearly lost a sister when she tried to cross a road to get to a bus stop used by school buses, who then got hit by a car going 110kph, I’d accept a quid-pro-quo: lower road speed limits to 80kph, and keep your damn Autobahn insanity.
This isn’t car accidents, it’s overall road traffic accidents (see also “obligation to wear crash helmets – no such thing for cars, this is for motorbikes). This also includes cyclists and pedestrians killed by cars, motorcycles or bicycles.
Driver training in Deutschland is extensive.
The numbers are way down, so time to lift all these legal restrictions, because freedom!!!11
Damn, almost seems like its unneccessary to limit the speedlimit on all autobahnen, because cars are just safer and most accidents happen in the city with bumper to bumper traffic
The vehicle saftey features to include in the graph as well would be interesting
Why does the Statistisches Bundesamt make such a visually misleading graph? Affixing the unrelated legal amendments to the curve of traffic deaths. Not saying they do not have impact but it’s probably not as related as it is shown. Vehicular technology like ABS, better crunch zones, airbags, better tires etc. all may have had just as much impact. The immediate statement of the graph is deceptive.
Would have loved to see actual innovations in car technique on that graph, too. Now it looks somewhat like it was all politics that reduced the fatalities.
Cars are also increasingly safe. They absorb better impacts, they have more safety measures (like ABS) and this combined with those measures had a huge impact.
Not suggesting a causal relationship, but the correlation is interesting.
> The Lead-in Petrol Act, implemented to reduce air lead pollution by leaded gasoline, took effect in Germany in 1971. Main contents of this law were the reduction of lead content in gasoline proceeding to the ban of leaded gasoline as such.
https://www.umweltprobenbank.de/en/documents/selected_results/12198
And now it gets even more impressive the people driving cars have skyrocketed.
Meanwhile throughout this chart car manufacturers were making them safer over time
Alcohol free beer invented in Germany in 1970
Facts and logic