Mark Ruffalo thinks Marvel Cinematic Universe had more ‘mystique’ before Disney+ streaming expansion: “Will it be what it was? I don’t know”

by fookieblaylock

31 comments

  1. I’m sure it will have more Mystique once they properly introduce the X-Men.

  2. To me it felt like it devalued the MCU a bit. Yes, we have had some good Disney+ content, but the episodic format has been overly predicable to a point where we know we’ll have episodes where the heroes will have little action until the end. “The Falcon and the Winter Soldier” bothered me the first time I watched because it felt like the two protagonists were suddenly weaker than how they were in the movies.

  3. The problem was when they shifted from
    – telling complete stories

    into

    – just setting up other properties that also exist to set up other properties

  5. (It did not.) But, if you mean it had the mystique of being a movie check instead of a silver screen check. Yeah, I’m sure it had more mystique for him.

  7. We needed a long break after endgame. Let us miss you!!! Now it’s just way too much content and i feel like if i miss one show ill miss all of them

  8. I got burnt out fast and 100% blame the series’

    So if there was one particular series you hated (let’s just say all of them but how about Lady hulk or whatever). So it’s not like there is a ton of need to watch each one but I feel pressure to suffer through each series until I just couldn’t do it anymore.

    Now, I feel anxiety any time someone wants me to watch anything Marvel or they do anything new. I feel completely unprepared and it turns into my recurring nightmare of showing up to class, there’s a test I didn’t know about and I actually realize I had missed class for a month and can’t withdraw now….thats the same feeling anytime I think about getting back into it

  9. It happened when we started getting pandering TV shows that amounted to “I got these powers somehow and I know what I’m doing”.

    Everything has been coming too easy for the characters, almost zero character arc.

    The interesting most parts of super heroes is them figuring out their limits.

    Now the superheroes get incredible amounts of power and they’re off flying at light speed and absorbing nuclear energy like a fat kid on cake.

  10. Imo writing quality dropped.

    Nothing they are doing seems to be making it much better.

    Far more often now, i expect it to be terrible than great. Whereas pre-snap (hehehe) there was a lot better chance i would enjoy the content.

    Im a nerd. I consume this kind of content other places now.

    Ive seen blames go to disney plus. The only content ive liked that much has been on disney plus. Atm at least, i cant think of any that really stuck out as great from theaters.

    I dont know if i believe the arguement of too much content or tv streaming being an issue. I loved loki, i loved andor.

    But even the films they have pushed back dont seem very good.

    I did watch echo. I didnt like the hero. I loved every second kingpin was on screen though.

    Maybe i donno what it is that i like

  11. The only two that seemed like they mattered were Wandavision and Loki. But the big issue is that yhe story is too complex for the average viewer. They need to start doing recaps for all the important story information. (My idea for this to be cheap but valuable is to bring back pre-movie cartoons) And they need to stay in scope so people believe there will be an emotional payout and invest.

  12. he’s not wrong. they spread themselves thin telling stories that aren’t very important to the bigger picture of the mcu (with a few exceptions). they need to get back to big picture stuff

  14. They keep introducing more and more characters and linking almost none of them together. Does anyone even remember Harry Styles being introduced as Thanos’ brother? Charlize Theron showing up? Because it hardly ever gets mentioned. Does Shang-Chi have any clue who the Eternals are? They took the fun part (superhero team-ups) away and idk what we are left with currently.

  15. It also had more mystique before TNT constantly showed the movies in heavy rotation.

  16. “Can you put toothpaste back in a tube? I don’t know”

  17. That’s the thing about selling out….it only goes in one direction….and the end is always the same.

  18. I love Mark but I feel like just wants a good hulk movie- can someone oblige him?

  19. With the exception of Wanda Vision, Disney hasn’t really figured out that they can just use the MCU as a springboard for other types of projects. Don’t worry so much about the canon and the “house style” of cinematography.

  20. They should’ve given all the previous characters at least a year off after Endgame and started fresh with either the X-Men or the Fantastic 4 as the new A team

  21. Can something really have mystique – when it is 100% concerned with political-correctness and fan-service? Like, seriously, is that even possible?…

  22. I don’t actually care about MCU mystique.

    I’m perfectly fine with tv shows covering stories that are never going to appear as a movie.

    The main problem is trying to copy what was. There’s no reason to have phases.

  24. The problem with the MCU is it expanded to fast, I missed 3 movies after the first avengers and I realized I have no business watching them anymore cause by the time I got around to watching those 3 movies, I was 5 movies and 3 TV shows behind. What made the initial MCU saga great was it was self contained enough that you knew you had Iron Man 1-3, Thor, Captain America, and the Incredible Hulk, you didn’t need to watch Agents of Shield or Gaurdians of the Galaxy to see why things were happening. Then when the next arc started they inexplicably fell ass backwards into it. MCU wave one HAD THE BLUEPRINT, they completely ignored it. You start with Wolverine, then you do Cyclops, then Storm, then Jean Grey and towards the end of each movie have professor X and Magneto approach the hero and the villains about joining the brotherhood/X-Men before doing just The X-Men. Then you do something they never even thought of, keep it self contained or do X-Men vs The Avengers as a sequel but outside of that one instance keep it self contained. There’s no need for Reed Richards to show up in an X-Men movie.

  25. He’s not wrong, ok I just watched the marvels. And because I didn’t watch the tv shows on Disney + I was out of the loop on what was going on.

  26. Hol up

    Technically yes, but the fuck? These have had a the depth and complexity as a bowl of milk, so don’t go thinking you’re being some vanguard of cinematic excellence.

  27. Marvels “movies” looked like insanely big budget TV. Now that Disney+ exists, the entire MCU looks like it belongs on there and not in theaters

  28. I get where he’s coming from but if you think about it, Disney+ is building a library of content. Years from now, we’ll be scrolling through so many shows that there’s something for everyone. I think they dropped the ball in terms of pacing but overall they’re still a nice little enjoyable escape.

  29. It will never be what it was since Disney took over Marvel, and Star Wars are horrible.

  31. I completely agree. Just makes it less special. It’s “content” now. *Ugh*.

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