A group of French farmers stormed a major Paris farm fair today ahead of a planned visit by [Emmanuel Macron](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/emmanuel-macron/) amid anger over costs, red tape and green regulations.
Facing dozens of police officers inside the trade fair, the farmers were shouting and booing, calling for the French president’s resignation.
“This is our home!”, they shouted, as lines of French CRS riot police sought to contain the demonstration. There were some clashes with demonstrators and the police arrested at least one of them.
Mr Macron, who had breakfast with French farmers’ union leaders, was scheduled to walk within the alleys of the trade fair afterwards.
“I’m saying this for all farmers: you’re not helping any of your colleagues by smashing up stands, you’re not helping any of your colleagues by making the show impossible, and in a way scaring families away from coming,” Mr Macron told reporters after his meeting with union leaders.
In a sign of tensions between French farmers and the government, Mr Macron cancelled a debate he wanted to hold at the fair today with farmers, food processors and retailers, after farmers unions said they would not take part.
Are the Russians investing heavily in farmers protests now?
I just read this in the Guardian. All I could think of was those terrified animals in the pens.
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That one guy at the left seems very happy
Are these the equivalent of MAGA in America? MFGF? Is like… the general French population with these guys, or are they just a bunch of angry idiots?
r/accidentalrenaissance
Why are these dipshits protesting after record food price hikes all over Europe and wider?
Aren’t agriculture fair supposed to profit those farmers? Why do they storm their own kind ?
Chatgpt summary of the situation :
Could you summarize the recent issues with farmers in France, what they are protesting, and the involvement of Macron, E. U. Farm to fork, and various environmental group, as of today?
Recent issues with farmers in France, which saw protests and road blockages, mainly revolved around a series of grievances. The farmers protested against low food prices, proposed reductions in state subsidies for farmers’ diesel fuel, and a pending EU-Mercosur free trade agreement, which they fear could lead to unfair competition. Specifically, they were concerned about large imports from Ukraine and South America that could pressure European prices while not adhering to the same environmental standards imposed on EU farmers.
The farmers also took issue with EU subsidy rules, such as an incoming requirement to leave a portion of farmland fallow, and expressed frustration with France’s complex implementation of these EU policies. Additionally, they felt that green policies contradicted goals to become more self-sufficient in food production, especially in the light of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
In response to these protests, French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal announced the scrapping of diesel tax increases for farmers, steps to reduce red tape, and extra aid for farmers affected by a cattle disease in the south. The government also promised further measures to support wine producers and livestock, and is seeking concessions from EU partners on agricultural policies.
President Emmanuel Macron’s involvement has been through seeking support for a waiver on the fallow land requirement and calling for measures to prevent imports from destabilizing EU markets, indicating a shift in France’s position on the matter.
What about the involvement of green parties and ecoterrorists group?
The involvement of green parties and environmental groups in the recent farmers’ protests in France is nuanced. On one hand, environmentalists argue that European farming policies have long supported industrial agriculture, which relies heavily on fossil fuels, fertilizers, and pesticides, leading to environmental and health issues. They emphasize the need for a fair and climate-friendly transition in agricultural and food systems and warn against using farmers’ protests to roll back environmental measures. On the other hand, they are also against free-trade agreements like EU-Mercosur, which they believe undermines the viability of small-scale, family farmers and hinders the transition to sustainable food systems. Environmentalists have joined farmers in calling for public support for a transition to more sustainable agricultural models that benefit both people and the environment (Euronews).
Regarding eco-terrorist groups, the French government has taken a strong stance against certain climate activist groups, which it accuses of inciting violence and conducting sabotage at protests against large infrastructure projects. The group Les Soulèvements de la Terre (Uprisings of the Earth), also known as SLT, was declared illegal after being involved in violent clashes with police. The French government’s actions have been criticized by civil liberties groups and green and left-wing politicians, who argue that it’s a serious breach of the right to protest and free association. Despite the crackdown, there is a sense among some experts that such measures will not dampen the public’s mood to protest but could instead catalyze more action and solidarity (Courthouse News Service, POLITICO).
Farmers have expressed concerns that green reforms will make Europe dependent on imports that are produced to lower standards, which they feel is unfair and unsustainable. The broader context includes fears that large agribusinesses and food corporations benefit at the expense of small and medium-scale farmers. There is a divide among farmers’ organizations themselves, with some advocating for fewer environmental measures to remain competitive and others, like Via Campesina, questioning the need to compete at a global level and calling for a shift towards local and agroecological food systems (DeSmog).
The situation is complex, with various stakeholders, including far-right groups, attempting to influence the direction of the protests for their own ends. The protests reflect legitimate anger and a mix of political ideologies among farmers, and they showcase the tension between environmental goals and current economic realities (DeSmog).
What about today’s event at the salon of agriculture, did Macron invite Soulèvement de la terre to debate the industry, despite them being banned?
It appears there was indeed controversy surrounding the invitation of Les Soulèvements de la Terre to the Salon de l’Agriculture. Reports suggest that they were initially invited to the event, possibly as part of a broader dialogue or debate about the agricultural industry. However, following a backlash, the invitation was retracted. The group has been at the center of significant legal and political discussions, particularly concerning their methods of protest and the government’s response to them, which has included attempts to dissolve the group. This situation reflects the complex and often contentious relationship between environmental activism and governmental policies in France.
Weird title. The fair is a farmers fair. They are the one doing the fair. Why would they have to storm it?
The French are ungovernable. Even without Russian disinformation they would still be protesting. In a functional democracy, such disagreements would be negotiated.
True freedom fighters
Bunch of scumbags
I think we should raise the rate of subsidies for Farmers in the EU budget from about 25 percent / 50 billion Euro annually back to about 70 percent, as it was some decades ago.
Or wait, we could also cut the fucking subsidies and find a way to produce stuff competitively, sustainably and according to market economy standards.
No industry is as outrageously obnoxious and toxic in their entitlement despite getting billions over billions from tax payers every year. It really pisses me off.
Funny, most of you have no clue and still judge.
Big farmers and big companies get the most subsidies from de PAC and money from selling + capital while most of the farmers can’t live properly with their work. No wonder why there is a high rate of suicide in their profession.
One of the problem is that the french state imposed more ecological standards than their counterpart in Europe making an unfair competition
90% of the french people (from polls) support them just so you know.
These guys are rioting to live decently not just to whine « oinoin they got subsidies » like a big fat Redditor on his gamer seat.
I don’t understand all the hate towards farmers on this sub. Supermarket supply chains and profiteering make it very difficult for farmers to support themselves without losing money. Subsidies are increasingly important to even sustain their ability to produce food for you and me.
The whole system is broken but blaming the farmers is lazy and short sighted. Support the people who produce your food and help them so they can help themselves improve their standards…..
Some will say the russianzzz are behind this…/s
Warum liegt hier überhaupt Stroh rum?
What’s with all the angry farmers these days?
It looks like French farmers have too much free time for protests.
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**From The Telegraph’s Foreign Staff:**
A group of French farmers stormed a major Paris farm fair today ahead of a planned visit by [Emmanuel Macron](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/emmanuel-macron/) amid anger over costs, red tape and green regulations.
Facing dozens of police officers inside the trade fair, the farmers were shouting and booing, calling for the French president’s resignation.
“This is our home!”, they shouted, as lines of French CRS riot police sought to contain the demonstration. There were some clashes with demonstrators and the police arrested at least one of them.
Mr Macron, who had breakfast with French farmers’ union leaders, was scheduled to walk within the alleys of the trade fair afterwards.
“I’m saying this for all farmers: you’re not helping any of your colleagues by smashing up stands, you’re not helping any of your colleagues by making the show impossible, and in a way scaring families away from coming,” Mr Macron told reporters after his meeting with union leaders.
The [Paris farm show ](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/31/french-farmers-protest-live-latest-updates-paris-tractors/)– a major event in France, attracting around 600,000 visitors over nine days – was meant to open at 9am. The doors were still closed at 0838 GMT, following the storming by angry farmers.
In a sign of tensions between French farmers and the government, Mr Macron cancelled a debate he wanted to hold at the fair today with farmers, food processors and retailers, after farmers unions said they would not take part.
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[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/24/farmers-macron-protest-paris-france-demonstration/](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/24/farmers-macron-protest-paris-france-demonstration/)
Are the Russians investing heavily in farmers protests now?
I just read this in the Guardian. All I could think of was those terrified animals in the pens.
[removed]
That one guy at the left seems very happy
Are these the equivalent of MAGA in America? MFGF? Is like… the general French population with these guys, or are they just a bunch of angry idiots?
r/accidentalrenaissance
Why are these dipshits protesting after record food price hikes all over Europe and wider?
Aren’t agriculture fair supposed to profit those farmers? Why do they storm their own kind ?
Chatgpt summary of the situation :
Could you summarize the recent issues with farmers in France, what they are protesting, and the involvement of Macron, E. U. Farm to fork, and various environmental group, as of today?
Recent issues with farmers in France, which saw protests and road blockages, mainly revolved around a series of grievances. The farmers protested against low food prices, proposed reductions in state subsidies for farmers’ diesel fuel, and a pending EU-Mercosur free trade agreement, which they fear could lead to unfair competition. Specifically, they were concerned about large imports from Ukraine and South America that could pressure European prices while not adhering to the same environmental standards imposed on EU farmers.
The farmers also took issue with EU subsidy rules, such as an incoming requirement to leave a portion of farmland fallow, and expressed frustration with France’s complex implementation of these EU policies. Additionally, they felt that green policies contradicted goals to become more self-sufficient in food production, especially in the light of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
In response to these protests, French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal announced the scrapping of diesel tax increases for farmers, steps to reduce red tape, and extra aid for farmers affected by a cattle disease in the south. The government also promised further measures to support wine producers and livestock, and is seeking concessions from EU partners on agricultural policies.
President Emmanuel Macron’s involvement has been through seeking support for a waiver on the fallow land requirement and calling for measures to prevent imports from destabilizing EU markets, indicating a shift in France’s position on the matter.
The protests in France are part of a wider pattern of farmer protests across Europe, with similar demonstrations occurring in Belgium, Germany, and Romania, reflecting widespread discontent among the agricultural community [[❞]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_French_farmers%27_protests) [[❞]](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/why-are-french-farmers-protesting-2024-01-29/).
What about the involvement of green parties and ecoterrorists group?
The involvement of green parties and environmental groups in the recent farmers’ protests in France is nuanced. On one hand, environmentalists argue that European farming policies have long supported industrial agriculture, which relies heavily on fossil fuels, fertilizers, and pesticides, leading to environmental and health issues. They emphasize the need for a fair and climate-friendly transition in agricultural and food systems and warn against using farmers’ protests to roll back environmental measures. On the other hand, they are also against free-trade agreements like EU-Mercosur, which they believe undermines the viability of small-scale, family farmers and hinders the transition to sustainable food systems. Environmentalists have joined farmers in calling for public support for a transition to more sustainable agricultural models that benefit both people and the environment (Euronews).
Regarding eco-terrorist groups, the French government has taken a strong stance against certain climate activist groups, which it accuses of inciting violence and conducting sabotage at protests against large infrastructure projects. The group Les Soulèvements de la Terre (Uprisings of the Earth), also known as SLT, was declared illegal after being involved in violent clashes with police. The French government’s actions have been criticized by civil liberties groups and green and left-wing politicians, who argue that it’s a serious breach of the right to protest and free association. Despite the crackdown, there is a sense among some experts that such measures will not dampen the public’s mood to protest but could instead catalyze more action and solidarity (Courthouse News Service, POLITICO).
Farmers have expressed concerns that green reforms will make Europe dependent on imports that are produced to lower standards, which they feel is unfair and unsustainable. The broader context includes fears that large agribusinesses and food corporations benefit at the expense of small and medium-scale farmers. There is a divide among farmers’ organizations themselves, with some advocating for fewer environmental measures to remain competitive and others, like Via Campesina, questioning the need to compete at a global level and calling for a shift towards local and agroecological food systems (DeSmog).
The situation is complex, with various stakeholders, including far-right groups, attempting to influence the direction of the protests for their own ends. The protests reflect legitimate anger and a mix of political ideologies among farmers, and they showcase the tension between environmental goals and current economic realities (DeSmog).
What about today’s event at the salon of agriculture, did Macron invite Soulèvement de la terre to debate the industry, despite them being banned?
It appears there was indeed controversy surrounding the invitation of Les Soulèvements de la Terre to the Salon de l’Agriculture. Reports suggest that they were initially invited to the event, possibly as part of a broader dialogue or debate about the agricultural industry. However, following a backlash, the invitation was retracted. The group has been at the center of significant legal and political discussions, particularly concerning their methods of protest and the government’s response to them, which has included attempts to dissolve the group. This situation reflects the complex and often contentious relationship between environmental activism and governmental policies in France.
Weird title. The fair is a farmers fair. They are the one doing the fair. Why would they have to storm it?
The French are ungovernable. Even without Russian disinformation they would still be protesting. In a functional democracy, such disagreements would be negotiated.
True freedom fighters
Bunch of scumbags
I think we should raise the rate of subsidies for Farmers in the EU budget from about 25 percent / 50 billion Euro annually back to about 70 percent, as it was some decades ago.
Or wait, we could also cut the fucking subsidies and find a way to produce stuff competitively, sustainably and according to market economy standards.
No industry is as outrageously obnoxious and toxic in their entitlement despite getting billions over billions from tax payers every year. It really pisses me off.
Funny, most of you have no clue and still judge.
Big farmers and big companies get the most subsidies from de PAC and money from selling + capital while most of the farmers can’t live properly with their work. No wonder why there is a high rate of suicide in their profession.
One of the problem is that the french state imposed more ecological standards than their counterpart in Europe making an unfair competition
90% of the french people (from polls) support them just so you know.
These guys are rioting to live decently not just to whine « oinoin they got subsidies » like a big fat Redditor on his gamer seat.
I don’t understand all the hate towards farmers on this sub. Supermarket supply chains and profiteering make it very difficult for farmers to support themselves without losing money. Subsidies are increasingly important to even sustain their ability to produce food for you and me.
The whole system is broken but blaming the farmers is lazy and short sighted. Support the people who produce your food and help them so they can help themselves improve their standards…..
Some will say the russianzzz are behind this…/s
Warum liegt hier überhaupt Stroh rum?
What’s with all the angry farmers these days?
It looks like French farmers have too much free time for protests.